Re: [openppc] newbie questions

[Raquel Velasco and Bill Buck <bbrv@noos.fr>]

Hi Antoine, you can pick a Pegasos directly from Resellers or Genesi now.
See this for details:

http://www.morphos-news.de/index.php?lg=en&page=3&npp=8

Anyway, the speed of the processor is not really the issue.  What you need
is the ability to get into the environment first and get pounding away....

Just trying to encourage you!

Cheers,
Bill


On 6/29/03 1406, "Antoine Terrienne" <antoine.terrienne@free.fr> wrote:

> 
> Hello. 
> 
> I was looking for a way to aquire a cheap (mean non apple) powerpc
> configuration 
> and I fond your mailing list. So i gess this is the best place for my newbie
> questions. 
> 
> In my quest for a powerpc configuration i found the pegasos moterboard.
> interesting 
> but it seems that there are a very very few of these boards for sale. And with
> the 
> coming of the G5, the apple G4 machines are getting cheaper. Especialy
> when apple offers G4 1Ghz and so on... versus G3 600Mhz etc... for
> pegasos. 
> Do any of you know any other PowerPC moterboard ?
> 
> It seems that it is very difficult to get some recent PowerPC processors  (G4,
> and 
> don't event talk about G5). does anyone can explain me why ?
> It is very disapointing. I think IBM really want to push
> the PowerPC over the PC market (or they would never released the POP). And
> for me the main adventage of the Intel/PC over PowerPC is the abality to build
> and upgrade your machine. For shure a PowerPC processor would never be
> cheaper than an intel/amd equivalent (quality have its price) but a good
> motherboard 
> would push ppc at last in the linux/bsd comunity (not for the everybody user
> beacause windows does not suport ppc). The point is that only ppc fans wants
> pegasos-like ppc architechture. If someone wants a computer for a special
> pupose (infographics, videogames, server, etc...) would prefer a mac or a PC
> with proper cards because of performance (latest agp for infgraphics, s-ata
> for 
> servers, and so on...).
> To sum pu the problems :
> - low availability of ppc processors
> - hight cost of low volume components (chipset, etc...)
> - no support for latest technologies
> Am i wrong ? 
> 
> Now I think would be realy usefull work on a huge ppc motherboard. Someting
> including all the fuzzy technologies like s-ata, pci-x, agp 8x, etc... (buy
> the way, the 
> time we get a working motherboard these standarts won't be fuzzy anymore). For
> shure it will be very expensive to produce for a simple person, but i think
> providing 
> a GLPed (or other licence) platform "ready to produce" could interest some
> manufacturers. A moterboard they are shure to sell, at last at the comunity
> that 
> designed it, and that didn't cost anything to design. I gess that we should
> ask help 
> from company like IBM, as the poject should help them at selling ppc and
> expand 
> their market. 
> Well I gess i'm just an another dreamer ;)
> 
> It seems that some of you are working on powerpc projects. I saw some
> interesting 
> posts in the archive. Could anyone tell what they are working on, and where
> they 
> are in their progress ? I'm completely newbie to powerpc and hardware stuff
> but if 
> I can help... 
> Buy the way does anyone have some good links about hardware design ? I mean i
> looked a the POP documents on openppc.org and they don't really talk to me.
> Where 
> could I find somme doc that explain me the underlying of the POP (or
> mothermoards 
> in general) functionnement (interoperation beetwin chips etc...).
> 
> thanks for your answers/comments ;)
> 

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