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[oc] Ask for XTNDAccess Blue SDK
Hi,
I need some information about software to develope an application over
Bluetooth technology.
I’m doing research on how to develop an application that will allow me to
communicate a cellular telephone and Personal Computer using Bluetooth
technology, in particular using the Object Push Profile.
Best regards,
Adrian Pablo Coluccio
----- Original Message -----
From: Jamil Khatib <jamilkhatib75@y... >
To: cores@o... , Damjan Lampret
<damjan.lampret@f... >
dkothari@p...
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:20:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [oc] Re: Need a little direction
>
>
> Hi,
> I checked the presentations ( Alternative Platform
> Variants is missing from the site ) the idea looks
> good but I see that it almost the same concept of
> bluetooth besides lot of software stuff. Am I right?
>
> It seems to me that you can develope a bluetooth
> module that can act as described in the presentations,
> but you need also to have bluetooth acces points in
> the locations.
>
> I am currently working on bluetooth core (you can
> check it in opencores site) and I think we can expand
> it to a full bluetooth module.
>
> Anyhow, if I am wrong let me know what is the
> difference between BT concept and LDISH besides the
> software part
>
> Regards,
> Jamil Khatib
>
>
> --- Devesh Kothari <dkothari@p... > wrote:
> > Here is some of the presentations defining the
> > general concept and kind of
> > applications that would be deployed over the Local
> > Digital Services Hotpoint
> > (LDISH) Platform
> >
> > http://www.protosys.com/LDISH_desc.htm
> >
> > I would ad more information in sections like
> > hardware, scenarios,
> > system/application architecture. I would also
> > consolidate all the feedback
> > and help from the newsgroup gurus on that area.
> >
> > Damjan , Lets fix a time for the call when we can
> > disscuss things. I am on
> > indian standard time, that should be 12hrs ahead of
> > california time (if u
> > are in california), My office/mobile number are
> > below.
> >
> > Br,
> > Devesh Kothari
> > Chief Technology Officer
> > ProtoSys Technologies Pvt Ltd
> > Phone: +91-80-2998859
> > Mobile: +91-9844054325
> > Email : dkothari@p...
> > Web: www.protosys.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Damjan Lampret"
> > <damjan.lampret@f... >
> > To: <dkothari@p... >
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 7:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: Need a little direction
> >
> >
> > > Hi Devesh,
> > >
> > > I don't know what is your company's agenda. Maybe
> > we can talk over the
> > > phone?
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Damjan
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Devesh Kothari" <dkothari@p... >
> > > To: "Damjan Lampret"
> > <damjan.lampret@f... >
> > > Cc: <cores@o... >
> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 5:22 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [oc] Re: Need a little direction
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello Damjan,
> > > >
> > > > Yes we would be very interested to get in touch
> > with Flextronics. We can
> > > > talk but before that it would be nice to decide
> > on what we would be
> > > talking
> > > > (the agenda). As I stated on the newsgroup about
> > our intention to create
> > a
> > > > flexible platform for headless devices, a cheap
> > and affordable solution
> > to
> > > > take distributed intelligence to the masses.
> > Looking at some of the
> > > > responses on the newsgroup, what i believe I
> > would do over the day or
> > two
> > > is
> > > >
> > > > 1. provide a short description of our project.
> > > > 2. application areas we are targetting
> > > > 3. consolidation of pointers and information
> > from various people
> > together
> > > so
> > > > it starts to shape the device, in terms of
> > features and requirements.
> > > >
> > > > I appreciate all gurus on the newsgroup and
> > would like to participate
> > with
> > > > all of you in creation of such a platform with
> > all possible
> > contributions
> > > > from my side. I am of the firm belief of
> > wonderful contribution open
> > cores
> > > > and OpenIP is doing at helping affordable
> > hardware. But at the same time
> > I
> > > > also have a strong belief, that efforts should
> > not just stop there, but
> > > the
> > > > efforts should lead a complete workable system,
> > with maybe reference or
> > > > production quality designs using as much OpenIP
> > work as possible.
> > > >
> > > > If flextronic is already working on that, then
> > that is wonderful news.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards,
> > > > Devesh Kothari
> > > > Chief Technology Officer
> > > > ProtoSys Technologies Pvt Ltd
> > > > Phone: +91-80-2998859
> > > > Mobile: +91-9844054325
> > > > Email : dkothari@p...
> > > > Web: www.protosys.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Damjan Lampret"
> > <damjan.lampret@f... >
> > > > To: <dkothari@p... >
> > > > Cc: "Damjan Lampret" <lampret@o... >
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 4:18 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [oc] Re: Need a little direction
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Patrick,
> > > > >
> > > > > very interesting ideas. What if I tell you
> > that major contracting
> > > > > manufacturer (the biggest?) that has a lot of
> > experience also with
> > > > handhelds
> > > > > is supporting opencores to create a platform
> > that you just described -
> > > to
> > > > > run Linux on it. Name of the EMS is
> > Flextronics, manufacturer of Palm
> > > > > Pilot's, Handsprings etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you need a contact to Flextronics, I work
> > for them. Yes, I also run
> > > > > OpenCores. If you are interested to talk about
> > your ideas, I can give
> > > you
> > > > a
> > > > > call.
> > > > >
> > > > > One of the projects that Flextronics completed
> > for a customer is a PDA
> > > > > device with StrongARM running Linux. Now I'm
> > working in a team to
> > create
> > > > an
> > > > > SOC specifically for PDAs, GSM phones and
> > other handheld and internet
> > > > > appliances. Many parts ofthis SOC are already
> > being developed under
> > > > > OpenCores, such as OpenRISC 1200, UART, memory
> > controller, USB,
> > > Ethernet,
> > > > > IrDA etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > > Damjan
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Devesh Kothari"
> <dkothari@p... >
> > > > > To: "Patrick Bernaud"
> <b-patrick@w... >;
> > <cores@o... >
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 5:36 AM
> > > > > Subject: [oc] Re: Need a little direction
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Patrick,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The platform which we are developing, we
> > dont have much hardware
> > > design
> > > > > > capabilities. do you know someone or could
> > get me in touch with
> > > > > freelancers
> > > > > > who can design this hardware board for us.
> > We would definitely keep
> > > all
> > > > > the
> > > > > > boards and designs and everything as
> GPL'ed
> > so people could just
> > take
> > > > > > it/modify it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well Linus gave us Linux, and I of the
> > opinion that we should take
> > > that
> > > > to
> > > > > > every device and to the people, what i see
> > standing in the way is
> > the
> > > > > > affordable hardware.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We want to concentrate on headless
> devices,
> > as these are what i
> > > > personally
> > > > > > believe would provide the distributed
> > intelligence to the masses,
> > the
> > > > > things
> > > > > > they do and interact day in and out. I
> dont
> > want the displays
> > because
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > simple reason, a)they are expensive b)they
> > consume power c)they are
> > > > > fragile
> > > > > > d)they can not be shared. I believe as
> more
> > and more mobile phone
> > and
> > > > > mobile
> > > > > > terminals (whatever shape and size) would
> be
> > owned by the masses and
> > > > they
> > > > > > would interact with these headless
> devices,
> > and the headless devices
> > > > over
> > > > > > wireless (bluetooth or ...) would provide
> > services using the mobile
> > > > > terminal
> > > > > > display. these displays could be as small
> as
> > display in a watch,
> > > mobile
> > > > > > phone, PDA or webpads.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We want to create the following platform
> and
> > we would appreciate all
> > > > help.
> > > > > > We would even try and support the efforts
> in
> > reasonable financial
> > > ways.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. BOM should not cross USD $50.
> > > > > > 2. Should have wireless (Bluetooth, short
> > range)
> > > > > > 3. Should have 32MB Flash
> > > > > > 4. Should have 256 MB SDRAM
> > > > > > 5. Should have two PC Card slots.
> > > > > > 6. CPU (could be a SOC)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > After doing considerable search, there are
> > some of the options
> > > > > > 1. taking the SA1110 reference design and
> > depopoulate the board
> > > > > extensively.
> > > > > > 2. design from scratch
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now biggest thing to be descided is what
> > SOC/CPU to use. The options
> > > are
> > > > > > (you can suggest more)
> > > > > > 1. StrongArm from Intel
> > > > > > 2. DragonBall MX1 from Motorola (would be
> > mass produced in March
> > > 2002),
> > > > > > having integrated support for bluetooth
> and
> > cost less than $25, they
> > > > > claim.
> > > > > > 3. AMD Elan processors (they are x86, and
> > they consume as i am told
> > > too
> > > > > much
> > > > > > power, but they are cheaper)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The massive amount of SDRAM (I guess they
> > are faster than flash and
> > > lot
> > > > > > cheaper too) , is for big enough RAM
> > filesystem, which can then
> > > download
> > > > > > content from masterstation, like MP3 and
> > MPEG video etc to be
> > streamed
> > > > on
> > > > > > wireless (BT), this content would get lost
> > if power goes off, which
> > we
> > > > > > believe is not the most often case.(the
> unit
> > would be externally
> > > > powered)
> > > > > > and would have battery for maybe 1 hour
> > operation.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What we need is
> > > > > > 1. freelancers to work on the designboard
> or
> > any volunteers
> > > > > > 2. pointers to information and any
> feedback
> > to help us achieve what
> > we
> > > > set
> > > > > > out to achieve. Any criticism or any sort
> of
> > feedback is
> > appreciated.
> > > > > > 3. Component manufacturers/contract
> > manufacturers who can give help
> > us
> > > > > > achieve that price.
> > > > > > 4. any kind of support.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We are based in India (Bangalore), and if
> > anyone happens to be in
> > > > > Bangalore
> > > > > > and want to drop by our place you are more
> > than welcomed to do that.
> > > Any
> > > > > > enquires please send it to me
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Looking forward for more pointers ,
> > feedback, answers in search for
> > > the
> > > > > > perfect solution.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best Regards
> > > > > > Devesh Kothari
> > > > > > Director
> > > > > > ProtoSys Technologies Pvt Ltd
> > > > > > www.protosys.com
> > > > > > dkothari@p...
> > > > > > 22/2 Mission Rd, Samson Complex,
> > > > > > Bangalore, 27, INDIA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [..] I am complete novice in
> terms of
> > > > > > > > hardware (please dont suggest
> to just
> > drop it then).
> > > > > > > I will not. I do not know what you
> are
> > into exactly. Nothing is
> > > > > > impossible.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then I would start the porting
> on one
> > of Linux variant on the
> > > box.
> > > > > > > You may know that Linux has already
> been
> > ported to the Strong Arm
> > > > > > > architecture and Debian for example
> is
> > providing a complete
> > > > > > > distribution.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > [..] I have
> > > > > > > > all the BOM/Gerber files and
> schematic
> > diagram from intel, but
> > > not
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > how
> > > > > > > > to proceed.
> > > > > > > I guess that you want to use the gEDA
> > tools and other free tools
> > and
> > > > > > > that is why you mailed me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If so, basically you will have to
> reenter
> > all the schematics from
> > > > Intel
> > > > > > > into gschem. That mean that you will
> also
> > have to create a new
> > > symbol
> > > > > > > for almost all the components, i.e.
> > SA1110, bluetooth module ...
> > > > > > > Then you will have to generate a
> netlist
> > from the schematic - with
> > > > > > > gnetlist.
> > > > > > > And finally, you will have to route
> the
> > board. I am not sure that
> > > the
> > > > > pcb
> > > > > > > software from Harry Eaton would be
> > complete enough for this task.
> > In
> > > > > fact,
> > > > > > > SA1110 is quite a complex component
> as it
> > is in a BGA - Ball Grid
> > > > > Array -
> > > > > > > package. At the working frequency you
> also
> > have to take into
> > account
> > > > > > > the way the board is tracked.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Of course, that was the scheme for
> the
> > software manageable part.
> > You
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > have to place an order for this board
> to a
> > pcb maker.
> > > > > > > As the package for SA1110 is a BGA
> you
> > will not be able to solder
> > it
> > > > by
> > > > > > > yourself and will require external
> help
> > for that.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It would be quite useful if
> someone
> > could help us finnish this
> > > > > > > > project. If you can provide us
> with
> > some direction please.
> > > > > > > I would be pleased to help you as
> much as
> > I can. Let me know how
> > far
> > > > > > > in the specification of the device
> you
> > are, what kind of direction
> > > > > > > you need.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Maybe I am just wasting your
> time. In
> > that case please accept
> > my
> > > > > > apologies.
> > > > > > > > Sorry for the trouble
> > > > > > > I am not sure to have answered all
> your
> > questions. If my
> > > explanations
> > > > > > > were too basic, excuse me.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Patrick BERNAUD
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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