From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:52:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g220qCTM004574 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:52:12 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 01 16:52:11 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g220qAmT012142; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:52:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g220VIAf021534; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:31:19 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g220QZnJ046582 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:26:35 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 01 16:26:32 2002 -0800 Received: from soda.csua.berkeley.edu (soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.247.226]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g220QVc6028532 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:26:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (tonytung@localhost) by soda.csua.berkeley.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g220QVZ07519 for ; Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:26:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tonytung@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 16:26:31 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tony Tung To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: correct for timezone in index format In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-967274226-1015028791=:40661" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-967274226-1015028791=:40661 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Sadly, no one responded to my question so I wrote a patch for this. In addition to fixing the timezone problem, it adds a mail index token SMARTTIME6. It shows the time the email was sent if it was sent today. Otherwise it shows the date. Enclosed are two patches. One patches the pine4.44 distribution, and the other patches pine4.44 with Eduardo Chappa's fancy thread feature. I hope someone finds this useful. Thanks, Tony On Tue, 22 Jan 2002, Tony Tung wrote: > > Hi all, > > Is there a way to have pine correct for the timezone when displaying the > date/time in the index? All the date/time tokens appear to not correct > for the timezone. 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(cpe-gan-24-136-34-81-cmcpe.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.34.81]) by svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g232gal14279 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:42:36 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Mar 2002 21:42:36 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Timothy J. Luoma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE Mailing List X-X-Sender: luomat@mail.peak.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Whenever I start PC-PINE, the window is nearly maximized (but not). I would like the window to open at a set size. Is there a way to do that? TjL -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 02:44:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23AixTM013006 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 02:44:59 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 02:44:58 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g23AiwmT022026; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 02:44:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23Ai4Af015842; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 02:44:04 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g237wPnJ052632 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2002 23:58:25 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 02 23:58:25 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g237wOZB008773 for ; Sat, 2 Mar 2002 23:58:25 -0800 Received: from 213-78-77-200.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-77-200.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.77.200]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEC18615; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 07:58:05 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 08:01:48 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 2 Mar 2002 Timothy J. Luoma (luomat@peak.org) wrote: > Whenever I start PC-PINE, the window is nearly maximized (but not). > I would like the window to open at a set size. > Is there a way to do that? I've messed around with this and I think the deal is that the possible positions that PC-Pine can take are a fewer than the possible positions a normal window can take. I think this is because the PC-Pine screen size is built using character-size rather than pixels. What I usually do is use my mouse to size and place the window. Then I quit PC-Pine and restart it and see if it's where I put it last time. Usually it's not exactly right. Then I close PC-Pine again and open my pinercex, which is where this info is stored (if you don't use pinercex, it's in pinerc). Look for the window-position variable. Here's what I've got # Window position in the format: CxR+X+Y # Where C and R are the window size in characters and X and Y are the # screen position of the top left corner of the window. ## window-position=99x32+1+0ba window-position=99x32+1+0ba Mess around with the settings until you get something you like. Then, here's a TIP... Make a copy of the setting and leave it in your pinercex as a comment! That's what my line that starts with ## is for. This way if you accidentally move the PC-Pine window, you can easily get back to the setting you like because you've got it safely stored as a comment. HTH, Nancy ^x PS to Tim - I link to your Triple Colors page in this section of my Power Pine page -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 04:38:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23CcLTM020693 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 04:38:21 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 04:38:20 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g23CcKPs007637; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 04:38:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23CbckG019438; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 04:37:38 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23BosnJ065666 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 03:50:54 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 03:50:53 2002 -0800 Received: from ccat.sas.upenn.edu (CCAT.SAS.UPENN.EDU [128.91.200.226]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g23Borc6003667 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 03:50:53 -0800 Received: from localhost by ccat.sas.upenn.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g23Boq521305 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 06:50:52 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 06:50:51 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Brian Spooner To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: aliases MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can someone tell me what one has to do in pine to address a message to a number of people without all the addressees being listed in the header of each message? i.e. the sort of thing that could be done by putting an alias in /etc/aliases. Is it possible for example to have pine read the To: line of the header from a file? brian spooner -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 08:39:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23GddTM024047 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 08:39:39 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 08:39:38 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g23GdbPs011187; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 08:39:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23GciAf018596; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 08:38:44 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23ChnnJ145552 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 04:43:49 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 04:43:48 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g23ChlZB025506 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 04:43:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g23CheV32304; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:43:44 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020303134110.D18113-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:43:40 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: aliases In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Brian Spooner X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 3, 2002, 06:50 (-0500) Brian Spooner wrot= e: > Can someone tell me what one has to do in pine to address a message to a > number of people without all the addressees being listed in the header of > each message? i.e. the sort of thing that could be done by putting an > alias in /etc/aliases. Is it possible for example to have pine read the > To: line of the header from a file? Put yourself in TO and all recepients in BCC. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:14:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23JEUTM026412 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:14:30 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 11:14:30 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g23JETmT029906; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:14:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23JDNKT016184; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:13:23 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23HhXnJ157742 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:43:33 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 09:43:32 2002 -0800 Received: from web14510.mail.yahoo.com (web14510.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.224.169]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23HhWZB013232 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:43:32 -0800 Received: from [203.197.85.127] by web14510.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 03 Mar 2002 09:43:32 PST Message-Id: <20020303174332.86232.qmail@web14510.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:43:32 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tuka Mhane To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pc-pine : what does "no-op dead stream" mean ? In-Reply-To: <20020303134110.D18113-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Im using pc-pine for win ver 4.40 with SSL, build 13-Sep-2001. I use it to access a pop3 account provided by my isp. Since a few days ago, I have suddenly started getting this error "no-op dead stream" on the status line, after I enter the login name and passwd. And then pine goes on to print "no folder opened" on the status line. What could be wrong ? I can use my pop account using outlook express, so probably nothing is wrong at my isp's end ? Thanks, Tuka __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - sign up for Fantasy Baseball http://sports.yahoo.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:49:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23LnqTM028672 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:49:52 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 13:49:51 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g23LnoPs015920; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:49:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23LmVEr020778; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:48:31 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g23LjwnJ142696 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:45:58 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 13:45:58 2002 -0800 Received: from svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.46.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g23Ljvc6017868 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:45:57 -0800 Received: from associate.ncf.coxexpress.com (cpe-gan-24-136-34-81-cmcpe.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.34.81]) by svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g23LjSl20576; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 16:45:29 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 16:45:27 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Timothy J. Luoma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: luomat@mail.peak.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Nancy McGough wrote: > Mess around with the settings until you get something you like. > Then, here's a TIP... Thanks for the tip... it's too bad PC-PINE can't behave better. > PS to Tim - I link to your Triple Colors page in this section of > my Power Pine page > > Cool :-) TjL From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:40:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g241eLTM031915 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:40:21 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 17:40:21 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g241eKmT003112; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:40:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g241TcAf013454; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:29:38 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g241S9nJ161280 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:28:09 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 17:28:09 2002 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g241S8c6007953 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:28:08 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:28:06 -0600 Received: from misty.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:27:45 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:27:21 +0800 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: aliases In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Brian Spooner" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Can someone tell me what one has to do in pine to address a message to a > number of people without all the addressees being listed in the header of > each message? i.e. the sort of thing that could be done by putting an > alias in /etc/aliases. Is it possible for example to have pine read the > To: line of the header from a file? IMHO, the best way to do this is to: 1. Create an address book entry with the list of recipients. 2. When addressing the mail use Crtl-R to bring up the "Rich Headers" display. 3. Place the name of your address book entry in the Lcc: field. Ed From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:22:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g244M4TM001726 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:22:04 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 20:22:03 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g244M3mT005511; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:22:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g244LMAf021408; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:21:22 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g244JVnJ065620 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:19:31 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 20:19:30 2002 -0800 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g244JTc6024726 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:19:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (fairall@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g244JRK09739; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 22:19:27 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from fairall@ns.shellworld.net) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:19:27 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Leslie Fairall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: aliases In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: fairall@server1.shellworld.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN What is the difference between Bcc: and Lcc:? From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:30:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g245UxTM002818 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:30:59 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 21:30:58 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g245UwmT006525; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:30:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g245UEkG017846; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:30:15 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g245SvnJ123396 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:28:57 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 21:28:56 2002 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g245Sure031069 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:28:56 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:28:54 -0600 Received: from misty.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:28:43 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:27:57 +0800 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: aliases In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Leslie Fairall" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN With Lcc: you get the name of the distribution list you are sending to in the To: header. > -----Original Message----- > From: Leslie Fairall [mailto:fairall@ns.shellworld.net] > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:19 > To: Ed Greshko > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: RE: aliases > > > What is the difference between Bcc: and Lcc:? > > > > > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:37:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g247bLTM005031 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:37:21 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 23:37:20 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g247bKmT008408; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:37:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g247afEr029098; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:36:41 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g247ZenJ018670 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:35:41 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 23:35:40 2002 -0800 Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.76]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g247ZdIe026126 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:35:40 -0800 Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.72]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA20190; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 02:35:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA04422; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 02:35:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mit.edu (WELL.MIT.EDU [18.250.1.77]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA22355; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 02:35:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3C8323C3.7060307@mit.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 02:35:31 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacob Morzinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: aliases References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Leslie Fairall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en-us X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Leslie Fairall wrote: > What is the difference between Bcc: and Lcc:? * Meta-answer: Test either one before relying on it. * Short answer: Lcc is prettier, but Bcc is more likely to work. * Long answer: It's been a long time since I tested Lcc. If I recall correctly, pine's "Lcc" header generates mail with a named group in the address field of the outgoing mail. Problem is, "group" addresses are so seldom used that some sites stumble when dealing with mail addressed to named groups. After being bitten once too often, I decided that I would never use group addresses. I recommend Bcc. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:51:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g247ppTM005697 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:51:51 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 23:51:50 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g247pomT008660; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:51:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g247pDKT014140; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:51:13 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g247oGnJ160274 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:50:16 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 03 23:50:15 2002 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g247oFc6016884 for ; Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:50:15 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 01:50:13 -0600 Received: from misty.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 15:50:09 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 15:49:56 +0800 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: aliases In-Reply-To: <3C8323C3.7060307@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Jacob Morzinski" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > * Meta-answer: > Test either one before relying on it. > > * Short answer: > Lcc is prettier, but Bcc is more likely to work. ???? > * Long answer: > It's been a long time since I tested Lcc. If I recall correctly, pine's > "Lcc" header generates mail with a named group in the address field of > the outgoing mail. Problem is, "group" addresses are so seldom used > that some sites stumble when dealing with mail addressed to named > groups. After being bitten once too often, I decided that I would never > use group addresses. I recommend Bcc. Not sure where you are getting your information. The Lcc: is not much different than the Bcc: That is, no routing address information is held in the headers. All the addresses go in the SMTP envelope. With the Lcc: you get some indication of who it is being sent "To:". If you use the Bcc: and put yourself in the To: field then people can't sort the incoming emails properly. They can also tend to ignore them since the "To" isn't them. The Lcc: gives an indication that it is a list and not a person being sent to.... The obvious "draw-back" to using either of these two is that a reply won't reach the people in the Lcc: or the Bcc: But, that is to be expected and may very well be the desired result. One wonders why the "help" menu isn't consulted ... THE MESSAGE COMPOSER'S LCC FIELD The "Lcc:" (List carbon copy) header is intended to be used when you wish to send a message to a list of people but avoid having all of their addresses visible, in order to reduce clutter when the message is received. It is similar to the "Bcc" (Blind carbon copy) header in that individual addressees are hidden, but Lcc is designed to work specifically with distribution lists you have created in your Pine Address Book. Placing the nickname of the list on the Lcc line will result in the full name of your Pine Address Book list being placed on the To: line of the message, using a special notation that distinguishes it from a real address. You must leave the To: line blank for your list name to appear there. For example, if you have this list entered in your Address Book: largo Key Largo List DISTRIBUTION LIST: largo Key Largo List DISTRIBUTION LIST: bogie@mgm.com lauren@mgm.com walter@mgm.com and you enter "largo" on the Lcc: line while composing a message, the result is: To : Key Largo List: ; Cc : Bcc : Fcc : sent-mail Lcc : Key Largo List , lauren@mgm.com, walter@mgm.com Subject : Each recipient listed on the Lcc: line receives a copy of the message without their address being visible (as though they were listed on the ipient listed on the Lcc: line receives a copy of the message without their address being visible (as though they were listed on the Bcc: line). The colon-semicolon notation used to put the full-name of the list on the To: line is a special address format that doesn't specify any actual addressees, but does give some information to the recipients of the message. Note: if after entering an LCC, you delete the list name that is placed on the To: line, then recipients will see To: Undisclosed recipients: ; (or whatever string is defined in the "empty-header-message" variable) just as in the BCC case. For help with Lcc: field editing commands, check the Help for the To: header. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:20:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g248KJTM006294 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:20:19 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 00:20:18 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g248KIPs025629; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:20:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g248JiEr015618; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:19:44 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2487mnJ011260 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:07:49 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 00:07:48 2002 -0800 Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2487lIe029362 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:07:48 -0800 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA27469; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA23341; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:07:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from mit.edu (WELL.MIT.EDU [18.250.1.77]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA28202; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:07:45 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <3C832B4B.8050702@mit.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 03:07:39 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacob Morzinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: aliases References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Edward.M.Greshko@syntegra.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en-us X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ed Greshko wrote: > With the Lcc: you get some indication of who it is being sent > "To:". If you use the Bcc: and put yourself in the To: field then people > can't sort the incoming emails properly. Yes, yes. You are providing fine elaboration. I repeat my point: Lcc is prettier -- it formats the "To" header as an RFC[2]822 "group" address. Read the RFC if you don't yet know what a "group" address is. All sites should be able to handle group addresses. Unfortunately, not all sites do. I tired of arguing with postmasters, and gave up on using groups myself (and Lcc). If Lcc works at your site feel free to use it; I'm just trying to warn you to keep an eye open for trouble, because it works less universally than Bcc does. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:20:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g248KqTM006335 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:20:52 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 00:20:51 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g248KpmT009252; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:20:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g248KOKT013370; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:20:25 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g248FcnJ052658 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:15:38 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 00:15:38 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g248Fac6019842 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:15:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g248FR934003; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:15:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020304090333.P33031-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:15:27 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: aliases In-Reply-To: <3C8323C3.7060307@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Jacob Morzinski X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 4, 2002, 02:35 (-0500) Jacob Morzinski wrote: > * Long answer: > It's been a long time since I tested Lcc. If I recall correctly, pine's > "Lcc" header generates mail with a named group in the address field of > the outgoing mail. Problem is, "group" addresses are so seldom used > that some sites stumble when dealing with mail addressed to named > groups. After being bitten once too often, I decided that I would never > use group addresses. I recommend Bcc. What it creates according to the help text that Ed Greshko cited is an mailgroup with no mailaddreses in the TO field, which is fully in accordans with RFC 2822, which defines the Internet mail message. Furthermore, sendmail will enter such an empty group if the is no address on TO, which means that it is far from being seldom used. It is also used by the IETF for some mailing lists, and people on the lists used a variety of mail clients, and I've seen no complaints on that. I think it is safe to use the LCC solution in Pine, which I did not know was there. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:23:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g248NVTM006409 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:23:31 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 00:23:31 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g248NVmT009322; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:23:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g248N4Af015454; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:23:04 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g248IenJ108920 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:18:40 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 00:18:39 2002 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g248IdZB031386 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 00:18:39 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 02:18:37 -0600 Received: from misty.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:18:23 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:18:10 +0800 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: aliases In-Reply-To: <3C832B4B.8050702@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Jacob Morzinski" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > If Lcc works at your site feel free to > use it; I'm just trying to warn you to keep an eye open for trouble, > because it works less universally than Bcc does. Actually, it works "exactly" the same as the Bcc does. I would normally caution against using Bcc:... If you use Bcc: but forget to add a To: then you will find that certain sendmail implementations will reveal all of the addresses in the Bcc:!! This, of course, defeats the whole purpose. Ed From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:10:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g24FAvTM017115 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:10:57 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 07:10:56 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g24FAtPs002466; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:10:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g24FALkG019982; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:10:21 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g24F8tnJ155618 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:08:55 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 07:08:53 2002 -0800 Received: from partita.dartmouth.edu (partita.dartmouth.edu [129.170.26.68]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g24F8rc6028541 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:08:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (thorsten@localhost) by partita.dartmouth.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g24F8qA30789 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:08:52 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:08:52 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "John R. Thorstensen" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: backspace/delete in vim? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am running Pine on a RedHat 7.2 system, in an xterm. For consistency between applications I would like to make vim my default message editor in pine. However, when I invoke vim from within pine, the backspace/delete situation is confused -- backspace generates a ^?, delete rubs out the next character, and only CTRL-H seems to work as expected to delete the character before the cursor. Outside of pine, the keys behave in their normal (convenient) manner. Does anyone know what to do to make vim work correctly from within pine, without breaking anything else? John Thorstensen -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:02:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g24H2MTM020622 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:02:22 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 09:02:21 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g24H2KmT021737; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:02:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g24H0gKT013344; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:00:42 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g24GxOnJ042682 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 08:59:25 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 08:59:24 2002 -0800 Received: from venus.networkwcs.net (web.evansville.net [204.120.16.3]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g24GxMZB026009 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 08:59:23 -0800 Received: from poc-rt-01.qccinc.com ([216.135.4.11] helo=evv-mer-2.qccinc.com) by venus.networkwcs.net with esmtp (Exim 3.32 #11) id 16hvo1-0005Rw-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 04 Mar 2002 10:59:21 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 10:59:10 -0600 (Central Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Marc Rouleau To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: your 18jan posting to the pine-info discussion forum (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: mer@imap-ras.communitytelephone.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thank you for the correction, Peter. I have cc'd Pine-Info. -- Marc Rouleau ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 14:21:23 -0500 From: Peter S. Shenkin To: mer@cinergycom.net Subject: your 18jan posting to the pine-info discussion forum Hi, Mark, You wrote, "I think you probably need to turn on the new (4.33+) quell-content-id feature." After spending some time trying to figure out why this wouldn't work with 4.33, I found that this feature was in fact new in 4.41 (according to the 4.44 release notes). I can't quite figure out how to post a followup on pine-info -- maybe one has to be a registered user -- but, since neither of the followups to date points this out, I thought I'd call it to your attention in case you'd like to post one. Either way, your posting sent me down the right track for eventually figuring out how (as a Pine user) I can be kind to my less fortunate friends who use XP Outlook. :-) So thanks.... -P. -- Peter S. Shenkin work: shenkin@schrodinger.com play: shenkin@mindspring.com From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:49:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g24LnvTM000829 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:49:57 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 13:49:56 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g24LnuPs017918; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:49:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g24LnNAf015728; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:49:23 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g24KUqnJ114976 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:30:52 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 04 12:30:52 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.vo.com ([208.36.81.99]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g24KUpIe016061 for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:30:51 -0800 Received: from gandolph.ASGARD.jms (24-164-155-122.nyc.rr.com [24.164.155.122]) by mail.vo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g24KUmJf028004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 4 Mar 2002 15:30:50 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 15:32:11 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: READ-ONLY/lost-connection recovery MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: alex@mail.vo.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a way to set Pine to reconnect automatically on lost connections and is there a way to restore writability if another process hits your INBOX? -Alex- ___________________________________________________________________ S. Alexander Jacobson i2x Media 1-212-787-1914 voice 1-603-288-1280 fax -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:06:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25K6JTM014154 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:06:19 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 05 12:06:18 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g25K6ImT007458; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:06:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25K4ukG013740; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 12:04:56 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25JqMnJ152278 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:55:03 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 05 11:52:21 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu (moultrie.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g25JqLZB008226 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:52:21 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153B61FA2D for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:52:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 13:52:21 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug? Feature? ListMatches MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I don't like this behavior. I'm not sure if it's a bug or not: (G)otoFldr and type in a few letters. In my case, I typed in "li". Then, I did a (^X)ListMatches. The list it gave me was (clint, links, list, zoli). It found all occurrences of the string "li" instead of names that started with "li" (links, list). Is that the expected behavior? -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:02:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25N2gTM021389 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:02:42 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 05 15:02:41 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g25N2fmT014472; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:02:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25N1jEr025646; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:01:45 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25MuhnJ117932 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:56:43 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 05 14:56:43 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.19]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g25MuhZB030505 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:56:43 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.18]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25MufS1005749 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:56:41 -0800 Received: FROM smtp.washington.edu BY mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 05 14:56:40 2002 -0800 Received: from [10.95.135.3] ([128.95.135.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g25Muejv028477 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:56:40 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:56:40 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: hubert@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We're kind of confused by this discussion because recent pines should be storing the window position in the registry, not in the config file. The config file entry is supposed to be ignored if there is a registry entry. The position of the last pine exited should be the position where the next pine starts up. Since pine4.44 we've found that this gets in the way of the way some people would like to use pine so there will be a new configuration feature called "store-window-position-in-config" in pine4.50. Steve Hubert From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:09:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25N9xTM021709 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:09:59 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 05 15:09:59 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g25N9wmT014803; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:09:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25N9JEr071140; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:09:19 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25N8HnJ119172 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:08:17 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 05 15:08:17 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.19]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g25N8Hre000531 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:08:17 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.17]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g25N8GS1010900 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:08:16 -0800 Received: FROM smtp.washington.edu BY mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 05 15:08:16 2002 -0800 Received: from [10.95.135.3] ([128.95.135.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g25N8Fkx025016 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:08:16 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:08:16 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: aliases In-Reply-To: <3C8323C3.7060307@mit.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: hubert@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I can confirm what Jacob says. I have definitely encountered sendmail configs which choked on the pine style Lcc To header. And we both understand that we're talking about group addresses which contain no actual mailboxes between the `:' and `;'. The header parsing rules just didn't handle the group syntax. An even more likely place for the failure is if you set up pine to use "sendmail -t" to send messages. In that case there are some sendmail configs which will reject the mail because there are no valid addresses on the To line. That's actually what prompted us to change from sendmail -t to sendmail -bs as the default, though there were other good reasons as well. Since sendmail started generating such addresses I think it has become less and less common for these parsing failures to happen. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:02:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2652VTM031642 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:02:31 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 05 21:02:30 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2652UPs010929; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:02:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2651skG017470; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:01:54 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g263munJ111894 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:48:57 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 05 19:48:56 2002 -0800 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g263mtc6011296 for ; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 19:48:55 -0800 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP; Tue, 5 Mar 2002 21:48:54 -0600 Received: from misty.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:48:48 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:48:18 +0800 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: aliases In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Steve Hubert" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Steve, [snip] > That's actually what prompted us to > change from sendmail -t to sendmail -bs as the default, though there were > other good reasons as well. Interesting. I'd seen cases were different sendmails choked on different things. Maybe that was the reason I switched 2 years ago to using an SMTP host as opposed to calling sendmail. :-) It seems like using the SMTP protocol is less likely to cause problems. > Since sendmail started generating such addresses I think it has become > less and less common for these parsing failures to happen. While there may be some older versions of sendmail around which still suffer from this, I think going the SMTP host route would get around it. So, I still think Lcc: is preferred over Bcc:. I'd rather have it choke (and a workaround) than to have sendmail reveal all the Bcc's cause I forgot to add the To:. Ed From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:05:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26E5DTM015647 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:05:13 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 06:05:12 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26E5CPs023172; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:05:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26E4YAf017544; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:04:34 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26E3MnJ070354 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:03:22 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 06:03:22 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26E3Lre010721 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:03:21 -0800 Received: from 213-78-93-159.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-93-159.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.93.159]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEK84562; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:03:17 GMT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:07:14 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Steve Hubert X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 5 Mar 2002 Steve Hubert (hubert@washington.edu) wrote: > We're kind of confused by this discussion because recent pines should be > storing the window position in the registry, not in the config file. The > config file entry is supposed to be ignored if there is a registry entry. What I wrote to Tim was based on experiments I did a while ago so now I know that the window-position line in my config file isn't doing anything... > The position of the last pine exited should be the position where the next > pine starts up. The main problem I've had (and this was a while ago) was that if I clicked on the maximize button in the PC-Pine upper right corner (between the _ and X buttons), PC-Pine would fill up my screen. But then, the next time I started PC-Pine it wasn't truly maximized. I don't want to experiment with this now, especially since I can no longer easily save my current setting in my config file! > Since pine4.44 we've found that this gets in the way of the way some > people would like to use pine so there will be a new configuration feature > called "store-window-position-in-config" in pine4.50. Can you tell me more about what people don't like? I don't like anything in the registry because I want to be able to edit these types of things in a text file using gvim and save backups and do things the good old fashioned unix way. Thanks, Nancy posted & cc'd -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:02:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26F27TM016584 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:02:07 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 07:02:06 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26F26mT006473; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:02:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26F1NEr025816; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 07:01:23 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26ExGnJ125786 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:59:16 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 06:59:16 2002 -0800 Received: from svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.46.5]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26ExFZB017831 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 06:59:15 -0800 Received: from associate.ncf.coxexpress.com (cpe-gan-24-136-34-81-cmcpe.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.34.81]) by svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g26ExEl17966 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:59:14 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:59:09 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Timothy J. Luoma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: luomat@mail.peak.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Nancy McGough wrote: > Can you tell me more about what people don't like? I don't like > anything in the registry because I want to be able to edit these > types of things in a text file using gvim and save backups and do > things the good old fashioned unix way. What she said. The less we rely on the registry, the better, IMO. It also saves people like me from pouring through the PINERC (where everything else is) looking for the setting, only to find that it isn't there but in the registry. TjL From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:36:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26HaGTM021795 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:36:16 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 09:36:15 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26HaFmT011436; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:36:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26HFaAf014272; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:15:36 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26HEWnJ070488 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:14:32 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 09:14:31 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26HETc6003262 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:14:30 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.17]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26HETeH025116 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:14:29 -0800 Received: FROM smtp.washington.edu BY mailscan-out2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 09:14:28 2002 -0800 Received: from [10.95.135.3] ([128.95.135.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26HESjv008095 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:14:28 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:14:28 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: hubert@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Nancy McGough wrote: > The main problem I've had (and this was a while ago) was that if > I clicked on the maximize button in the PC-Pine upper right > corner (between the _ and X buttons), PC-Pine would fill up my > screen. But then, the next time I started PC-Pine it wasn't truly > maximized. I don't want to experiment with this now, especially > since I can no longer easily save my current setting in my config > file! Yes, I see that, too. Certainly is a bug. Thanks. > Can you tell me more about what people don't like? I don't like > anything in the registry because I want to be able to edit these > types of things in a text file using gvim and save backups and do > things the good old fashioned unix way. The problem is just if somebody wants to start two pines with two config files and have them located in two spots on the screen. You can't do that in pine4.44 without manually moving one of them after you start up. Steve From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:29:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26ITrTM023846 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:29:53 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 10:29:52 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26ITqPs031339; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:29:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26ISkEr045364; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:28:46 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26IRTnJ010450 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:27:29 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 10:27:28 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.19]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26IRSre004937 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:27:28 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.17]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26IRRS1023585 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:27:27 -0800 Received: FROM smtp.washington.edu BY mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 10:27:26 2002 -0800 Received: from tigger (D-140-142-110-233.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.110.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26IRQjv008960 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:27:26 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:27:50 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@mailer23.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Steve Hubert wrote: > On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Nancy McGough wrote: > > > Can you tell me more about what people don't like? I don't like > > anything in the registry because I want to be able to edit these > > types of things in a text file using gvim and save backups and do > > things the good old fashioned unix way. > > The problem is just if somebody wants to start two pines with two config > files and have them located in two spots on the screen. You can't do that > in pine4.44 without manually moving one of them after you start up. I'll add that the change to use the registry was prompted by complaints about having to create and keep track of a local exceptions pinerc file *just* to record screen position --which is machine specific, so using a central/shared pinerc cause undesired results for folks who use computers with different screen resolutions. Some people hate the registry, some people hate lots of "exception" files. I hate them both, but believe we should provide the registry option in PC-land, since that's the way PC apps are supposed to do it. With the next release, folks will have their choice of which mechanism they prefer. -teg From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:37:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26KbkTM029274 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:37:46 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 12:37:45 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26KbimT018784; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:37:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26Kb1Af019426; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:37:01 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g26KZDnJ054486 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:35:13 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 12:35:12 2002 -0800 Received: from mout0.freenet.de (mout0.freenet.de [194.97.50.131]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g26KZ8re007283 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:35:12 -0800 Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 16ii7v-0001FE-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 21:35:07 +0100 Received: from b7a4f.pppool.de ([213.7.122.79]) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #3) id 16ii7u-0007T4-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 06 Mar 2002 21:35:07 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:33:04 +0100 (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=28MEZ=29_Mitteleurop=E4ische_Zeit?=) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Cornelius C. Noack" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: folder format in pcpine (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="598410-30725-1015446568=:-115319" Content-ID: X-X-Sender: ccnoack@imap.freenet.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --598410-30725-1015446568=:-115319 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 21:29:28 +0100 ((MEZ) Mitteleurop=E4ische Zeit) From: Cornelius C. Noack To: pine@cac.washington.edu Subject: folder format in pcpine There has been an ongoing discussion about this (specifically the suggestion that pcpine provide an option for using the unix mbox format also in pcpine). Apparently this discussion has not reached the pine development team. So I am herewith sending you 3 recent relevant contributions to the pine discussion forum, in the hope that you can either include such an option (in a future release of pcpine) or give the pcpine community a convincing reason why this is impossible or really inadvisable. I look forward to your response. Yours (gratefully for pcpine!) ccn. --=20 =2E.................................................................... _|_ / | \ \_|_/ Prof.Dr. Cornelius C. Noack Phones: _|_ __ Inst. f. Theor. 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0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:56:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g271uFTM007836 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:56:15 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 17:56:14 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g271uEmT030761; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:56:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g271tZEr018786; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:55:35 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g271rrnJ022646 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:53:53 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 17:53:48 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g271rmc6018314 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:53:48 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.17]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g271rmeH012383 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:53:48 -0800 Received: FROM mailhost2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan-out2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 06 17:53:47 2002 -0800 Received: from [10.95.135.31] (fw135.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.30]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g271rlwx026148; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:53:47 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 17:53:47 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Franklin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pgp4pine + gpg + sigdashes: who's to blame? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joel Boonstra X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jpf@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Joel Boonstra wrote: > So, where is that extra space getting stripped out? My hunch is that it's > not pine -- perhaps gpg eliminates all whitespace immediately preceding a > newline. However, perhaps when pine sends its data to the filter (i.e., > to pgp4pine), it strips out the space. I doubt this, but it could be the > case. Or, perhaps pgp4pine munges the data as it's passing it through to > gpg. Again, unlikely, but it seems that one of those is happening, since > sigdashes don't work for encrypted messages. > > So, here are my questions: > > * Can anyone else reproduce this? Both me and my co-worker are using: > > RH 7.1/7.2 > pine 4.44 > gpg (GnuPG) 1.0.4 (at least) > pgp4pine 1.75-6 > > * If it's reproducible, how can I trace where the space is being stripped > out? > > * Or, am I being silly, and missing something obvious? Hi Joel, In my tests of sending-filters, it looks to me like pine does correctly preserve the white space. My guess is the problem lies in some interaction between pgp4pine and gpg. If you wanted to test this hypothesis more, I would try the sending filter manually with some example text. Then, you could try the same text with gpg, with whatever args pgp4pine passes it. Good luck! Jeff -- Jeff Franklin Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:14:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g279EUTM015488 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:14:30 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 07 01:14:30 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g279ETPs024574; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:14:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g279DuKT016478; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:13:57 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g279C4nJ051918 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:12:04 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 07 01:12:03 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g279C2ZB021648 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 01:12:03 -0800 Received: from 213-78-81-203.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-81-203.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.81.203]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEG08562; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:11:19 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 09:15:39 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Terry Gray X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 6 Mar 2002 Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > I'll add that the change to use the registry was prompted by complaints > about having to create and keep track of a local exceptions pinerc file > *just* to record screen position --which is machine specific, so using a > central/shared pinerc cause undesired results for folks who use computers > with different screen resolutions. But shouldn't a central/shared pinerc be specified by %PINECONF%? Then the regular old %PINERC% could be used for user & machine-specific settings and a user who didn't want to use 3 config files wouldn't need to create a pinercex file? Here are a couple wishes in my Pine Wish list related to this issue: * If we can't have the previous wish, allow PC-Pine to use an analog of pine.conf.fixed so that PC-Pine and Unix Pine can both use 4 configuration files and thus easily share them. Suggestion: Use %PINECONFFIXED% in PC-Pine to specify this fourth configuration file. * Have default file names in PC-Pine for pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed so that a user doesn't have to use environment variables to specify these. You can read these and all of my Pine wishes here: > Some people hate the registry, some people hate lots of "exception" files. > I hate them both, but believe we should provide the registry option in > PC-land, since that's the way PC apps are supposed to do it. With the > next release, folks will have their choice of which mechanism they prefer. I think giving us the choice is great. Are we going to be able to set any other settings that are currently set in the registry in plain old text files? Thanks! Nancy posted & cc'd ^x -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:16:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g27KGoTM001691 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:16:50 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 07 12:16:49 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g27KGnmT022423; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:16:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g27KFvEr035342; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:15:57 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g27KELnJ030242 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:14:21 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 07 12:14:20 2002 -0800 Received: from server5.safepages.com (server5.safepages.com [216.127.146.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g27KEKIe024207 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 12:14:20 -0800 Received: from myiqbj1bdp8k29 (reston-gnap-ip-216012-203.dynamic.ziplink.net [216.8.12.203]) by server5.safepages.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 726212AA4A for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 20:12:13 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:12:19 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Scott Mohnkern" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Man pages for pine.440 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm looking around for the man pages for pine.440, but can't find them anywhere (someone emailed me the binaries). I can't find them on the washington web site, anyone know where they might be at? Scott -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:09:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2819TTM012206 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:09:30 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 07 17:09:29 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2819SPs023710; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:09:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2818rAf018432; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:08:53 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2816RnJ094970 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:06:27 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 07 17:06:27 2002 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2816Qc6000376 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:06:26 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 07 17:06:26 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2816PmT032161 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:06:25 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.17]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2816PeH012698 for ; Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:06:25 -0800 Received: FROM smtp.washington.edu BY mailscan-out2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 07 17:06:24 2002 -0800 Received: from butsumetsu-shi.cac.washington.edu (butsumetsu-shi.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.118]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2816Okx026122 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:06:24 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 17:06:27 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: re: pc-pine : what does "no-op dead stream" mean ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mrc@cac.washington.edu X-To: Tuka Mhane X-Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN "No-op dead stream" means that the connection to the server was lost. In some cases, a single Pine operation (such as opening a session) involves multiple operations to the server. Pine does all those operations in a batch. If an earlier operation in the batch failed due to the disconnect, then all the subsequent operations in the batch will also fail, and the failure those subsequent operations will get is "no-op" (meaning that no operation was done) "dead stream" (meaning that the communications stream with the server is dead). The next version of Pine will have a more understandable message. In any case, the problem is probably in the server and not with Pine. You may also want to try the latest release version of PC Pine, 4.44, on ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/ -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:21:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g28HL5TM000526 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:21:05 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 08 09:21:04 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g28HL3mT018328; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:21:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g28HKMEr025130; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:20:22 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g28HIAnJ157136 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:18:10 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 08 09:18:09 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g28HI8ZB026549 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:18:08 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.17]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g28HI8xY002446 for ; Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:18:08 -0800 Received: FROM smtp.washington.edu BY mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 08 09:18:06 2002 -0800 Received: from fuji440.attbi.com (12-228-49-59.client.attbi.com [12.228.49.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g28HI6kx004198 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:18:06 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:17:56 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@mailer23.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Nancy McGough wrote: > On 6 Mar 2002 Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > I'll add that the change to use the registry was prompted by complaints > > about having to create and keep track of a local exceptions pinerc file > > *just* to record screen position --which is machine specific, so using a > > central/shared pinerc cause undesired results for folks who use computers > > with different screen resolutions. > > But shouldn't a central/shared pinerc be specified by %PINECONF%? > Then the regular old %PINERC% could be used for user & > machine-specific settings and a user who didn't want to use 3 > config files wouldn't need to create a pinercex file? No, I'm talking about the remote_pinerc facility for sharing a *personal* pinerc across a bunch of different machines that an individual may use, not a global site-policy pine.conf. For myself, I use lots of different computers on a daily basis, and my single remote_pinerc is the *only* config file I need or want to worry about. You can specify such a remote/shared pinerc either via the -p command line option or via registry settings. -teg From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:21:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g299L4TM027503 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:21:04 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 01:21:02 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g299L2Ps002282; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:21:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g299KEKT023086; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:20:14 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g299I3nJ117136 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:18:03 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 01:18:02 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g299Hxc6026222 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 01:18:01 -0800 Received: from 213-78-88-99.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-88-99.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.88.99]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEM62864; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:17:56 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:22:15 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Terry Gray X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 8 Mar 2002 Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Nancy McGough wrote: > > > On 6 Mar 2002 Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > > I'll add that the change to use the registry was prompted by complaints > > > about having to create and keep track of a local exceptions pinerc file > > > *just* to record screen position --which is machine specific, so using a > > > central/shared pinerc cause undesired results for folks who use computers > > > with different screen resolutions. > > > > But shouldn't a central/shared pinerc be specified by %PINECONF%? > > Then the regular old %PINERC% could be used for user & > > machine-specific settings and a user who didn't want to use 3 > > config files wouldn't need to create a pinercex file? > > No, I'm talking about the remote_pinerc facility for sharing a *personal* > pinerc across a bunch of different machines that an individual may use, > not a global site-policy pine.conf. For myself, I use lots of different > computers on a daily basis, and my single remote_pinerc is the *only* > config file I need or want to worry about. You can specify such a > remote/shared pinerc either via the -p command line option or via registry > settings. Thanks for the explanation Terry, I interpreted "central/shared" as shared among many users rather than shared by one user on many machines. My mistake - this is a lesson for me to try to get in the habit of using the phrases generic pinerc personal pinerc machine-specific pinerc so I don't confuse people when I write about this stuff, e.g., here And it's good for me to hear that some people, e.g. you, don't have any desire to compartmentalize and would rather have all their config information in one file! If anyone has any feedback on the way I've written about this or the terminology I'm using, e.g., "generic pinerc," I'd really appreciate it. Also, here is a question: In the Unix world, when a pine user uses an IMAP-accessible pinerc, where do machine-specific settings go (since there's no registry)? It seems to me that pine should create a local pinercex, if it doesn't already exist, for storing things like last-version-used and, if they are using X Windows, window-position and font. I don't have much experience with X Windows so maybe it has an analog to the registry? Thanks, Nancy ^x still trying to spread the modularization word -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:16:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29BGATM000823 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:16:10 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 03:16:06 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29BG5Ps004815; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:16:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29BFJKT015612; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:15:19 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29BDfnJ125662 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:13:41 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 03:13:40 2002 -0800 Received: from disted.disted.edu.my ([202.188.173.122]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29BDZc9003012 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:13:40 -0800 Received: from vimala.disted.edu.my (192.168.4.23 [192.168.4.23]) by disted.disted.edu.my with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id F5QFTC5Z; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 09:02:30 +0800 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20020305212105.0069f7d8@192.168.4.232> Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 21:21:05 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Vimala To: Pine Discussion Forum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: vimala@192.168.4.232 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've been mailing for so many times without any feedback..can someone tell me how I can access my PINE mails from a browser (IE or Netscape). This is urgent. All I want to do is to able to view my mails and no other functions involved. Thank you vimala -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:47:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29BlLTM004371 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:47:21 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 03:47:20 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29BlKmT014144; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:47:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29BkikG028014; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:46:44 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29BivnJ077616 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:44:58 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 03:44:57 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29BitIe031106 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 03:44:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g29Bisb48572 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:44:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020309123734.R42222-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:44:54 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20020305212105.0069f7d8@192.168.4.232> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 5, 2002, 21:21 (+0800) Vimala wrote: > I've been mailing for so many times without any feedback..can someone tel= l > me how I can access my PINE mails from a browser (IE or Netscape). This i= s > urgent. All I want to do is to able to view my mails and no other functio= ns > involved. With pine you can access your email in three ways: 1. Via an IMAP server. If so, all mail folders could be stored at the server, including outgoing mail. Configure your other mail client to access the email in the same way. 2. Via an POP server. With POP only the inbox is accessible, and only non-removed email. But new mail could be accesssed via another mail client. No folders are accessible. 3. Via the file system. In that case, only mail client running on the server and knowing the pine mail boxes can access the email. The inbox is accessible for all standard unix email programs. If the IMAP server is the one coming with pine, you could access the mail both trough the file system and through the IMAP server. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:37:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29Cb4TM010205 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:37:04 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 04:37:03 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29Cb2Ps008543; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:37:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29CaQKT015380; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:36:27 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29CYEnJ077626 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:34:15 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 04:34:14 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.gmd.de (mail.gmd.de [129.26.8.90]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29CYCIe002757 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 04:34:13 -0800 Received: from twister.gmd.de (twister [129.26.8.91]) by mail.gmd.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18530; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 13:34:06 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (tbaker@localhost) by twister.gmd.de (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA22828; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 13:34:06 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 13:34:06 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Thomas Baker Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Thomas Baker To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Viewing pine mailboxes in a browser In-Reply-To: <20020309123734.R42222-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mats Dufberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: twister.gmd.de: tbaker owned process doing -bs X-Sender: tbaker@twister.gmd.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [Giving this thread a name: "Viewing pine mailboxes in a browser"] I think Vimala is asking a much different question -- "how can one view PINE mailboxes in a browser such as Netscape?" I would also very much like to know the answer. As far as I can tell, browsers that use a variant of the Unix mbox format for email -- such as Opera, Mozilla, and Netscape -- need to first index the mbox files in an email database. In other words, you cannot just click on an mbox file and view it in a browser -- or rather, you can, but it will come up as plain text, routing headers and all, and without rendering the URLs to be directly clickable. I made a few half-hearted experiments in this area awhile ago and concluded it would take a considerable effort -- shell scripts, filters, and whatnot -- to make this work. With PC-Pine, alas, it appears that this sort of workaround would not be practical because PC-Pine makes it extremely inconvenient to use anything but its non-standard, proprietary mailbox format "c-client MBX" (with non-text characters), which makes PC-Pine incompatible with Unix pine, which uses the Unix mbox format. Because of this incompatibility, in fact, I am probably going to have to abandon pine altogether when I move from Solaris to WIN2000 and use the Cygwin port of mutt for Windows. (There is a Cygwin port of pine that uses mbox as the default format, but in my experience you have to install an XWindow emulator and run it in an xterm window -- nice that it works, but a bit cumbersome.) As with pine, however, mutt will only solve the problem of _processing_ the mail (reading threads, responding, organizing messages into mboxes, etc), not of _viewing_ the mail in a Web environment. For that, it looks to me like it is necessary to download all mail _twice_ -- once for processing with mutt or pine, and once for indexing by Netscape or Opera for viewing in a Web environment. I would dearly love to see this depressing conclusion proven wrong. Tom On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Mats Dufberg wrote: > On Mar 5, 2002, 21:21 (+0800) Vimala wrote: > > I've been mailing for so many times without any feedback..can someone tell > > me how I can access my PINE mails from a browser (IE or Netscape). This is > > urgent. All I want to do is to able to view my mails and no other functions > > involved. > > With pine you can access your email in three ways: > > 1. Via an IMAP server. If so, all mail folders could be stored at the > server, including outgoing mail. Configure your other mail client to > access the email in the same way. > > 2. Via an POP server. With POP only the inbox is accessible, and only > non-removed email. But new mail could be accesssed via another mail > client. No folders are accessible. > > 3. Via the file system. In that case, only mail client running on the > server and knowing the pine mail boxes can access the email. The inbox is > accessible for all standard unix email programs. > > If the IMAP server is the one coming with pine, you could access the mail > both trough the file system and through the IMAP server. ---- Dr. Thomas Baker Thomas.Baker@bi.fhg.de Birlinghoven Library, Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft mobile +49-171-408-5784 Institutszentrum Schloss Birlinghoven work +49-30-8109-9027 53754 Sankt Augustin, Germany fax +49-2241-14-2619 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:04:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29H4pTM030440 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:04:51 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 09:04:51 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29H4omT025407; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:04:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29H4EKT020508; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:04:14 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29H1knJ066460 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:01:46 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 09:01:45 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.19]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29H1jZB003713 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:01:45 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.18]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29H1jnv031902 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:01:45 -0800 Received: FROM smtp.washington.edu BY mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 09:01:45 2002 -0800 Received: from fuji440.attbi.com (12-228-49-59.client.attbi.com [12.228.49.59]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29H1ijv023608 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:01:44 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:01:32 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine: size of PC-PINE window on open In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@mailer23.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Nancy McGough wrote: > Also, here is a question: In the Unix world, when a pine user > uses an IMAP-accessible pinerc, where do machine-specific > settings go (since there's no registry)? It seems to me that pine > should create a local pinercex, if it doesn't already exist, for > storing things like last-version-used and, if they are using X > Windows, window-position and font. I don't have much experience > with X Windows so maybe it has an analog to the registry? This would be a function of the "xterm" program, through which one would invoke Pine (or any other terminal-based app). Being a terminal-based app, Unix Pine has no notion itself of window size or position. X apps such as xterm are driven by a hierarchy of X-specific config files, in the normal Unix tradition. -teg From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:11:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29HB5TM030618 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:11:05 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 09:11:00 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29HAxPs017678; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:10:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29HAVKT017090; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:10:31 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29H8gnJ084612 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:08:42 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 09:08:37 2002 -0800 Received: from svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.46.5]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29H8bZB004349 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 09:08:37 -0800 Received: from associate.ncf.coxexpress.com (cpe-gan-24-136-34-81-cmcpe.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.34.81]) by svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g29H8al17368 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:08:36 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 12:08:30 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Timothy J. Luoma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC Pine sucks CPU when should be idle MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE Mailing List X-X-Sender: luomat@mail.peak.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm not sure what causes this, but it happens a lot, especially, it seems, when you open an URL out of PC-Pine. PC-Pine should be idle, but it actually sucks 80-90% of the CPU and trips the fan on my laptop. Simply switching the view back to Pine drops the CPU back down to normal. Any ideas what might be causing this? TjL -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:20:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29IKaTM000799 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:20:36 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 10:20:30 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29IKUPs019031; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:20:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29IJqAf005222; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:19:56 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29IHCnJ095588 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:17:13 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 10:17:12 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.living-source.lt (sgw-kn.living-source.lt [213.226.135.82]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29IH9Ie031141 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 10:17:11 -0800 Received: (qmail 68179 invoked by uid 0); 9 Mar 2002 18:19:10 -0000 Received: from shaman.fr.living-source (192.168.3.25) by home.living-source.lt with SMTP; 9 Mar 2002 18:19:10 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2002 20:20:28 +0200 (Finnland Normalzeit) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adi Sieker To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC Pine sucks CPU when should be idle In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: "Timothy J. Luoma" X-X-Sender: adi@[212.202.133.123] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: [pine cpu hogging] > > Any ideas what might be causing this? No I don't, but I experience the same problem when pine is minimized. This only happens when I run ge0Shell, which is a replacement shell for window. Regards Adi From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:11:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29NBDTM006677 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:11:13 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 15:11:12 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29NBCPs024628; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:11:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29NAOEr032552; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:10:24 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g29N7xnJ164488 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:07:59 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 09 15:07:59 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g29N7vIe028458 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 2002 15:07:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g29N7sp49393; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:07:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020310000308.P42222-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 00:07:53 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: READ-ONLY/lost-connection recovery In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: "S. Alexander Jacobson" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 4, 2002, 15:32 (-0500) S. Alexander Jacobson wrote: > Is there a way to set Pine to reconnect > automatically on lost connections and is there a > way to restore writability if another process hits > your INBOX? If you create an INBOX in mbx format in your home directory, pine will move your mail to that instead of in the public place. And then pine will be able to have several concurrent R/W sessions to your INBOX. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 03:20:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ABKqTM032670 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 03:20:52 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 03:20:52 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2ABKpmT023977; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 03:20:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ABKJEr025132; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 03:20:20 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ABI7nJ142510 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 03:18:07 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 03:18:06 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.vo.com ([208.36.81.99]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2ABI5ZB031928 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 03:18:05 -0800 Received: from gandolph.ASGARD.jms (24-164-155-122.nyc.rr.com [24.164.155.122]) by mail.vo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2ABHkJf026774 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 10 Mar 2002 06:17:50 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 06:19:07 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: READ-ONLY/lost-connection recovery In-Reply-To: <20020310000308.P42222-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Mats Dufberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: alex@mail.vo.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok. Thats good if you have multiple sessions, but I often leave Pine open for long periods of time and in that time it occasionally looses its connection. I do a manual G INBOX to get it back. That seems like a pain. How can I make it restore automatically. (Outlook restores automatically) -Alex- On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Mats Dufberg wrote: > On Mar 4, 2002, 15:32 (-0500) S. Alexander Jacobson wrote= : > > > Is there a way to set Pine to reconnect > > automatically on lost connections and is there a > > way to restore writability if another process hits > > your INBOX? > > If you create an INBOX in mbx format in your home directory, pine will > move your mail to that instead of in the public place. And then pine will > be able to have several concurrent R/W sessions to your INBOX. > > > Mats > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se > Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 > SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 > > ___________________________________________________________________ S. Alexander Jacobson i2x Media 1-212-787-1914 voice 1-603-288-1280 fax From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:31:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AGVcTM012630 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:31:38 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 08:31:37 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2AGVbmT029559; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:31:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AGV3Er033294; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:31:03 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AGTonJ142376 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:29:50 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 08:29:50 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2AGTnc6024070 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 08:29:49 -0800 Received: from 213-78-94-206.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-94-206.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.94.206]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEN28079; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:29:41 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 16:34:04 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <20020309123734.R42222-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 9 Mar 2002 Mats Dufberg (dufberg@narnia.pp.se) wrote: > On Mar 5, 2002, 21:21 (+0800) Vimala wrote: > > I've been mailing for so many times without any feedback..can someone tell > > me how I can access my PINE mails from a browser (IE or Netscape). This is > > urgent. All I want to do is to able to view my mails and no other functions > > involved. > > With pine you can access your email in three ways: > > 1. Via an IMAP server. > 2. Via an POP server. > 3. Via the file system. Mats is right that these are the ways you can access your messages *with Pine*, but if you want to access them from a web browser. Here are some questions/comments: * Question: Why do you want to do this? Is it because you want to be able to access your messages when you aren't at your own computer, eg, when you're visiting a friend or Internet Cafe? Or is it because you no longer want to use Pine and you want to use an integrated program for mail and web? * Comment: There is no such thing as "PINE mails." Pine messages are stored in mailboxes and these mailboxes are accessible to many different programs, depending on the format of the mailboxes and on the type of server that the mailboxes reside on. Have you seen the movie "The Matrix"? In that movie, we learn that things are not the way they appear and that is a lesson relevant to the world of Internet messaging -- just because it appears that your messages are part of Pine does not mean that they are! Depending on your answer to the question above, we may have some suggestions on how to access your messages using your web browser. Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:32:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AIWkTM017727 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:32:46 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 10:32:45 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2AIWimT032611; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:32:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AIWBEr019376; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:32:11 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AIUtnJ175788 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:30:55 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 10:30:55 2002 -0800 Received: from poertel.s0.plb.de (spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2AIUoc6001567 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 10:30:53 -0800 Received: from mailplb.s1.plb.de (mailplb.s1.plb.de [10.1.0.12]) by poertel.s0.plb.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.2 (i386)) with ESMTP id 3F4D53096; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:36:15 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 19:48:54 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "h.bork" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.21: folder printing ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bork@plb.de X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello together, having used Pine 4.21 on Linux via telnet (Anzio on NT and hp deskjets) for quite some time now , we can easily print mails. Now, we would like to print several hundreds of mails for archiving purposes. All mails contained in one folder. Sitting in front of the folder index, whatever we have tried up to now - select by ; and apply a collective print command - we unfortunately only get one single print of the one and only single mail that the cursor actually lights in the index. What's wrong, what might be our mistake ? Any hints welcome, kind regards, hbk ;-) From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:27:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AKRfTM023066 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:27:41 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 12:27:40 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2AKRemT003186; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:27:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AKQmKT014610; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:26:49 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AKPqnJ119364 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:25:52 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 12:25:52 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2AKPpZB007272 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 12:25:51 -0800 Received: from 213-78-80-195.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-80-195.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.80.195]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEN38969; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:25:40 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 20:29:59 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC Pine sucks CPU when should be idle In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 9 Mar 2002 Adi Sieker (adi@living-source.com) wrote: > > On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Timothy J. Luoma wrote: > > [pine cpu hogging] > > > > Any ideas what might be causing this? > No I don't, but I experience the same problem when pine is minimized. > This only happens when I run ge0Shell, which is a replacement shell for > window. I almost always have 2 or 3 instances of PC-Pine running and am constantly launching URLs from PC-Pine and I have not experienced this problem. In fact, I'm amazed that I don't run out of memory more often. Here's my usual configuaration MS Windows 98SE 64 meg of RAM Opera 6.01 Build 1041 running in MDI mode with about 20 windows open Dreamweaver 4.01 with 2 or 3 pages open and being edited 2 or 3 instances of PC-Pine, often one cycling through the incoming-folders list and another PageUpping or PageDowning through a Message Index 1 or 2 SecureCRT windows open SSHed to Unix systems and doing port forwarding 1 or 2 gvim windows Clever Keys I never minimize PC-Pine so maybe that is what's causing your problem? Nancy still amazed that I can do so much with only 64 meg of memory! -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:26:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ALQDTM026499 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:26:13 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 13:26:12 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2ALQCPs031754; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:26:12 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ALPYKT018672; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:25:34 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ALOdnJ095602 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:24:39 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 13:24:33 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2ALOVIe001918 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 13:24:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2ALOVa51539 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:24:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020310222226.O50843-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:24:31 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.21: folder printing ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 10, 2002, 19:48 (+0100) h.bork wrote: > =09Pine 4.21 on Linux via telnet (...) > - select by ; and apply a collective print command - > =09we unfortunately only get one single print > =09of the one and only single mail > that the cursor actually lights in the index. I have pine 4.33. When I try "select all" (;a) and "apply print" (a%) all messages are printed (the contents of them, not the list). Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:17:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AMHWTM029221 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:17:32 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 14:17:31 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2AMHVmT006486; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:17:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AMGaAf017486; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:16:36 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2AMFmnJ119364 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:15:48 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 14:15:47 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2AMFkIe006604 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 14:15:47 -0800 Received: from 213-78-95-46.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-95-46.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.95.46]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEN45022; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:15:44 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 22:19:59 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC Pine sucks CPU when should be idle In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Here is another data point that might help track down why Tim has a memory leak and I don't: I use PC-Pine to access IMAP and NNTP folders almost exclusively. I rarely access local folders. HTH track down the problem, Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:54:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ANsBTM030818 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:54:11 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 15:54:10 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2ANs9mT008139; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:54:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ANrXKT016128; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:53:33 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ANq2nJ117242 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:52:04 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 10 15:52:01 2002 -0800 Received: from florence.ie.alphyra.com (florence.ie.alphyra.com [193.120.224.170]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2ANpxZB026717 for ; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 15:52:00 -0800 Received: from dunlop.dub.ie.alphyra.com (IDENT:LjkDdUjykGcjMZ/nHRHdiJuF5BVsIQt1@dunlop.dub.ie.alphyra.com [192.168.10.24]) by florence.ie.alphyra.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2ANpqF02578; Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:51:56 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Mar 2002 23:51:52 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Paul Jakma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Viewing pine mailboxes in a browser In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Thomas Baker X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: paulj@dunlop.dub.ie.alphyra.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Thomas Baker wrote: > [Giving this thread a name: "Viewing pine mailboxes in a browser"] why not setup an IMAP server to share out the mailboxes, then one can a multitude of clients to access/view those mailboxes, including pine, netscape, outlook98, eudora, etc.. and IMP (a PHP webmail application - see horde.org). --paulj From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:10:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BDAkTM018719 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:10:46 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 11 05:10:45 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2BDAimT021742; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:10:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BD9hkG010012; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:09:43 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BD7nnJ064756 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:07:49 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 11 05:07:48 2002 -0800 Received: from tunku.uady.mx (tunku.uady.mx [148.209.1.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2BD7mre028838 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 05:07:48 -0800 Received: from tunku.uady.mx (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tunku.uady.mx (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2BDCFUp004159 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:12:15 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (angel@localhost) by tunku.uady.mx (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id g2BDCEpc004155 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:12:14 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 07:12:14 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Angel G. Polanco Rodriguez" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: NIMDA Virus MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, Somebody have any filter for to detect Nimda Virus across PINE? or some form of detection (filter in pine)?. Thanks a lot. ************************************ | ANGEL G. POLANCO RODRIGUEZ | | UNIVERSIDAD AUTONOMA DE YUCATAN | | DIRECCION GENERAL DE | | DESARROLLO ACADEMICO | | DEPARTAMENTO DE TELEINFORMATICA| | CALLE 59 POR AV. 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Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I discuss this on my Power Pine page in the section called Avoiding Mislabeled Application Viruses such as Nimda and Badtrans.B, which is here And here's what the current incarnation of that section says: One of the ways that the Nimda and BadTrans.B worms propagate is as a MIME attachment that is an executable file but is mislabeled as type audio/x-wave or audio/x-wav. I don't know if PC-Pine users are vulnerable to mislabeled attachments, but to be sure you aren't I suggest you add this to your mailcap file: audio/*;"" And then don't run any attachment that is labeled audio/x-wav(e) by hand! Details about mailcap and other security issues are on my Power Pine page. HTH, Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:19:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BHJFTM009327 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:19:15 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 11 09:19:14 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2BHJEPs028137; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:19:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BHHvKT020518; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:17:57 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BHGEnJ080396 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:16:14 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 11 09:16:12 2002 -0800 Received: from poertel.s0.plb.de (spira.plb.de [193.175.255.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2BHGBre006662 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 09:16:12 -0800 Received: from mailplb.s1.plb.de (mailplb.s1.plb.de [10.1.0.12]) by poertel.s0.plb.de (Postfix on SuSE Linux 7.2 (i386)) with ESMTP id 551C81F16 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:21:37 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:34:20 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "h.bork" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.21: folder printing ? (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bork@plb.de X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, > When I try "select all" (;a) and "apply print" (a%) all messages are > printed (the contents of them, not the list). This is exactly, what we'd like it to do with our Pine 4.21 but unexplicably does not happen, TIA, kind regards hbk;-) On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > Pine 4.21 on Linux via telnet > > - select by ; and apply a collective print command - > > we unfortunately only get one single print > > of the one and only single mail > > that the cursor actually lights in the index. > I have pine 4.33. > When I try "select all" (;a) and "apply print" (a%) all messages are > printed (the contents of them, not the list). From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:15:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BKF1TM028162 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:15:01 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 11 12:14:59 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2BKExmT010973; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:14:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BKDCAf005254; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:13:12 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BKAwnJ101878 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:10:58 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 11 12:10:57 2002 -0800 Received: from mhonline.net (cm-24-161-47-93.nycap.rr.com [24.161.47.93]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2BKAuIe023392 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:10:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:chrisf@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mhonline.net (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2BK9S617578; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:09:47 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 15:09:28 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Christopher Fisk To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20020305212105.0069f7d8@192.168.4.232> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Vimala X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Vimala wrote: >I've been mailing for so many times without any feedback..can someone tell >me how I can access my PINE mails from a browser (IE or Netscape). This is >urgent. All I want to do is to able to view my mails and no other functions >involved. This is not a feature of PINE AFAIK. You may have some luck setting up a form of webmail, and make multiple copies of your e-mail, or better yet, find a webmail program that reads from standard mbox format. Christopher Fisk From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:32:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BKWNTM029005 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:32:23 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 11 12:32:17 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2BKWHPs006658; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:32:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BKVcAf012456; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:31:38 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2BKUXnJ046148 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:30:33 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 11 12:30:32 2002 -0800 Received: from ussvml03.ventritex.com (node28.ventritex.com [205.185.16.53] (may be forged)) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2BKUVre029678 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:30:31 -0800 Received: from 753YC01 ([150.202.178.111]) by ussvml03.ventritex.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GCCM8KR8; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:31:15 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 12:30:24 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jason Tiller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Fisk X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jtiller@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Vimala, :) On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Vimala wrote: > I've been mailing for so many times without any feedback..can > someone tell me how I can access my PINE mails from a browser (IE or > Netscape). This is urgent. All I want to do is to able to view my > mails and no other functions involved. There are a number of free (or almost free) e-mail providers who provide IMAP access as well as Web-based views of your mail. Not to be an advertizer or anything, but the one I use, FastMail, has worked well for me for the last six months and the admins *very* friendly to Pine and IMAP. There are many more out there, I'm sure. Try http://www.fastmail.fm/ Good luck! ---Jason jason@sonos.org P.S. - I also have an account at MyRealBox, http://www.myrealbox.com/ This is a demonstration platform for Novell's NIMS and NDS technologies, so it's not nearly as stable as some of the others, but it's completely free... From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:00:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2C20iTM010677 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:00:44 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 11 18:00:42 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2C20gPs018077; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 18:00:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2C1udkG020186; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:56:39 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2C1tInJ174220 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:55:19 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 11 17:55:18 2002 -0800 Received: from disted.disted.edu.my ([202.188.173.122]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2C1tFZB023877 for ; Mon, 11 Mar 2002 17:55:17 -0800 Received: from vimala.disted.edu.my (192.168.4.23 [192.168.4.23]) by disted.disted.edu.my with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GWP6P0SS; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:37:23 +0800 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20020311215557.006a6d00@192.168.4.232> Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 21:55:57 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Vimala To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Viewing pine mailboxes in a browser In-Reply-To: References: <20020309123734.R42222-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: Thomas Baker , Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: vimala@192.168.4.232 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, My requirements are as follows: 1. I need to create certificates & have them installed in a web browser for authentication purpose so that users can perform remote access to their mail server, when they are out of their working area. This is done successfully. 2. My server is running on Linux, so I have pine in there which I use to access my mails. But what happens when I go somewhere else....authentication need to be performed before access is allowed. 3. Once authentication is done, I should be able to "VIEW" my mails in my PINE inbox. I don't have to worry abt other mail functions as long as the user get to read his mails, this is considered good enough. 4. I am to use either IE or Netscape for this. The main page can be accessed from anywhere but the secure page (done via https) that is gonna display my mails is only retrieved once a secure connection is established. 5. My only worry now is what must I do in order to view my inbox messages in Pine, using either Netscape or IE. I was told & I read so many papers that says that I can do this by configuring either POP or IMAP. I feel POP is good enough as I only want to be able to view the messages but how do I go abt doing this?I am trying to avoid using Netscape Messenger if possible. Can somebody help me please? I only have abt 3 weeks to get this working (I am a student). Thank you very much. Rgds, Vimala From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 02:35:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CAZOTM023716 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 02:35:24 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 02:35:17 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2CAZHmT032593; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 02:35:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CAYYAf017610; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 02:34:34 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CAXFnJ155584 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 02:33:15 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 02:33:14 2002 -0800 Received: from ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (ux-2s02.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de [194.95.66.3]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2CAXDre022217 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 02:33:13 -0800 Received: from ux-2s03.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de (ux-2s03c [192.168.3.1]) by ux-2s02.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g2CAXBr6017418 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:33:12 +0100 (MET) Received: from [10.110.1.10] (helo=pc-2m10.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de) by ux-2s03.inf.fh-bonn-rhein-sieg.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1 (Debian)) id 16kjah-0001WM-00 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:33:11 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:32:59 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: Steffen.Kaiser@fh-rhein-sieg.de Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steffen Kaiser To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Compiling Pine v4.44 with imap-2002 fails MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: skaise2a@ux-2s03b.inf.fh-rhein-sieg.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, usually you can download pine & imap separately and just drop imap into the pine directory. I tried it so on: + Solaris 8 + Pine v4.44 + imap-2002.DEV.SNAP-0203071604 + gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release) This results in: Pico/Pilot [included here as this is the only warning I've seen]: In file included from pico_os.c:4309: /usr/include/stropts.h:42: warning: type mismatch with previous implicit declaration pico_os.c:234: warning: previous implicit declaration of `ioctl' Pine: pine.c: In function `main': pine.c:418: `SET_DISABLEAUTOMATICSHAREDNAMESPACES' undeclared (first use in this function) If this is expected behaviour, I suggest to add this into imap/docs/. Pine v4.44 builds fine with the originally included c-client and also connects to imap-2002 successfully. Bye, -- Steffen Kaiser -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:15:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CCFOTM027386 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:15:24 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 04:15:19 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2CCFImT001969; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:15:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CCEkEr011050; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:14:47 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CCDbnJ056496 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:13:38 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 04:13:37 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2CCDaIe000820 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 04:13:37 -0800 Received: from 213.78-68-150.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213.78-68-150.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.68.150] (may be forged)) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEL92233; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:13:13 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:18:13 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Viewing pine mailboxes in a browser In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.20020311215557.006a6d00@192.168.4.232> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a Question: Is this going to be put into production or is this just an exercise for a University assignment? If it is the former, you may just want to set up your system so that people can SSH to your system and run Pine in an SSH window. A lot of universities seem to do this by making a web-based java SSH client available to their users. Some are listed here Many people seem to like MindTerm. This way you let Pine do most of the work and you and your system administrators simply have to make sure that the web-based SSH client is working. If this is for an assignment and you need all the requirements you list because it's part of the assignment, then I recommend that you set up an IMAP server on your system (maybe one is already in place) and then your users can use either Pine, which is the quintessential IMAP client, or a web-based IMAP client to access and process their mailboxes. There are many web-based IMAP clients. A good place to start investigating them is here Good luck, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:02:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CJ2ETM012954 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:02:14 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 11:02:13 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2CJ2DmT012964; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:02:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CJ14Er022240; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:01:04 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CIw8nJ070414 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:58:08 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 10:58:07 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2CIw7c6008307 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:58:07 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.17]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CIw6FJ005100 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:58:06 -0800 Received: FROM smtp.washington.edu BY mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 10:58:02 2002 -0800 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2CIvxkx003512 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:58:02 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:57:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Compiling Pine v4.44 with imap-2002 fails In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steffen.Kaiser@fh-rhein-sieg.de X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Steffen Kaiser wrote: > usually you can download pine & imap separately and just drop imap into > the pine directory. Although this is sometimes suggested to work around a c-client library problem discovered after a Pine release, this is not supported. Only the IMAP toolkit distributed with Pine is supported. Actually, the release version (imap-2001a) of the IMAP toolkit is the same as the version distributed with Pine. You downloaded imap-2002 which is not in release status; you will notice that imap-2002 is in "development snapshot" stage. > pine.c: In function `main': > pine.c:418: `SET_DISABLEAUTOMATICSHAREDNAMESPACES' undeclared (first use > in this function) Yes, we know. It got renamed, because some compilers don't like names that are that long. > If this is expected behaviour, I suggest to add this into > imap/docs/. It is always expected that building Pine with a mismatched c-client may have problems. -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:57:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CJv9TM015864 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:57:09 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 11:57:09 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2CJv8mT015216; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:57:08 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CJtjkG021018; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:55:46 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2CJsUnJ062206 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:54:30 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 11:54:29 2002 -0800 Received: from server3.safepages.com (server3.safepages.com [216.127.146.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2CJsSc6023562 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 11:54:28 -0800 Received: from myiqbj1bdp8k29 (reston-gnap-ip-216006-150.dynamic.ziplink.net [216.8.6.150]) by server3.safepages.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7C5335D87 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 19:53:41 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:53:29 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Scott Mohnkern" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: FW: Man pages for pine.440 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i'm looking around for the man pages for pine.440, but can't find them anywhere (someone emailed me the binaries). I can't find them on the washington web site, anyone know where they might be at? Scott -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:25:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2D1PRTM029172 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:25:27 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 17:25:20 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2D1PJPs022316; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:25:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2D14bEr039048; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:04:37 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2D133nJ084750 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:03:03 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 12 17:03:03 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp-stjh-01-04.rogers.nf.net (smtp-stjh-01-04.rogers.nf.net [192.75.13.144]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2D130re003574 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 17:03:01 -0800 Received: from wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net (wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net [205.251.199.137]) by smtp-stjh-01-04.rogers.nf.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2D12x013180 for ; Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:32:59 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 21:35:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adam To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: adam_src@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I see my inbox, but I can't see all my folders. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:57:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2DIvNTM023901 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:57:23 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 10:57:22 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2DIvMPs012902; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:57:22 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2DIu6lZ017930; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:56:06 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2DIsFDN033438 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:54:16 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 10:54:15 2002 -0800 Received: from mhonline.net (cm-24-161-47-93.nycap.rr.com [24.161.47.93]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2DIsEZB020920 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:54:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:chrisf@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mhonline.net (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2DIs6n05236; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:54:06 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:54:06 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Christopher Fisk To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Adam X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Adam wrote: > >I see my inbox, but I can't see all my folders. > Congratulations! I see a statement, but I can't see question =) But if I were to infer a question, I would have to say the answer to it was: inbox-path=/path/to/inbox folder-collections=/home/username/mail/[] in .pinerc are what you are looking for. Christopher Fisk From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:48:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2DKmZTM028634 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:48:35 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 12:48:34 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2DKmYmT020704; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:48:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2DKlOeo032926; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:47:24 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2DKkCDN176578 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:46:12 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 12:46:11 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp-stjh-01-04.rogers.nf.net (smtp-stjh-01-04.rogers.nf.net [192.75.13.144]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2DKk9re009354 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:46:10 -0800 Received: from wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net (wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net [205.251.199.137]) by smtp-stjh-01-04.rogers.nf.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2DKk5005500; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:16:05 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 17:18:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adam To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christopher Fisk X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: adam_src@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I did manage to get the folders after. But its not working very well. I get the following error message and it forces me to log in a second time: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- There was a failure validating the SSL/TLS certificate for the server fastmail.fm The reason for the failure was Server name does not match certificate (details) We have not verified the identity of your server. If you ignore this certificate validation problem and continue, you could end up connecting to an imposter server. If the certificate validation failure was expected and permanent you may avoid seeing this warning message in the future by adding the option /novalidate-cert to the name of the folder you attempted to access. Answer "Yes" to ignore the warning and continue, "No" to cancel the open of this folder. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:53:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2DLrUTM030847 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:53:30 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 13:53:29 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2DLrTmT022751; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:53:29 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2DLqJR8038878; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:52:19 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2DLoGDN119198 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:50:18 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 13:50:16 2002 -0800 Received: from angelfire.com (xyzzyz.whowhere.com [209.1.236.99]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2DLoGc6030429 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:50:16 -0800 Received: from Unknown/Local ([?.?.?.?]) by angelfire.com; Wed Mar 13 13:50:06 2002 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 22:50:06 +0100 Reply-To: schnk@angelfire.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Stefan K. Schneider" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: smth authentication Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Language: en Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sent-Mail: off X-Sender-Ip: 212.185.249.185 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi group! Linux i686 Pine 4.44 As YAHOO have implemented plain SMTP authentication, I have browsed the PINE documentation and the online archives on how to configure this. Still after quite a long time I haven't found any specific config info on SMTP authentication. But from unrelated docs on IMAP authentication I conclude that I may need to add /user=myusername to the smtp-server line. Is this correct? If so, why am I not prompted for a password, but get "SMTP Authentication cancelled" after the warning ">SECURITY PROBLEM: insecure server advertised AUTH=PLAIN<"? YAHOO's server supports plain smtp auth: Trying 216.136.173.12... Connected to smtp.mail.yahoo.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 smtp016.mail.yahoo.com ESMTP EHLO myhost.mydomain 250-smtp016.mail.yahoo.com 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN 250-PIPELINING 250 8BITMIME quit 221 smtp016.mail.yahoo.com What do I need to do to get SMTP AUTH working with PINE? Why is there no specific information on SMTP AUTH? Cheers, Stefan Is your boss reading your email? ....Probably Keep your messages private by using Lycos Mail. Sign up today at http://mail.lycos.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:02:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E02mTM003450 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:02:48 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 16:02:47 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E02lPs023915; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:02:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E02ElZ016846; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:02:14 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E00LDN120870 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:00:21 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 16:00:21 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.19]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E00LZB005851 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:00:21 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.18]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E00K8J013436 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:00:20 -0800 Received: FROM mailhost1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 16:00:19 2002 -0800 Received: from [140.142.110.162] (D-140-142-110-162.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.110.162]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E00JgL025735; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:00:19 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:00:19 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Lynne Bivona To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: FW: Man pages for pine.440 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Mohnkern X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: lbiv@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Scott, The Web site includes the man pages for the latest version here: http://www.washington.edu/pine/man/ Lynne Bivona On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Scott Mohnkern wrote: > > i'm looking around for the man pages for pine.440, but can't find them > anywhere (someone emailed me the binaries). > > I can't find them on the washington web site, anyone know where they might > be at? > > Scott > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:51:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E2pgTM007629 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:51:42 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 18:51:41 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E2pePs028460; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:51:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E2p9eo016160; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:51:09 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E2oADN021854 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:50:10 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 18:50:09 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net [192.75.13.141]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E2o7Ie002148 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:50:08 -0800 Received: from wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net (wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net [205.251.199.137]) by smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2E2o2H24097 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:20:02 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:23:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adam To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Error message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: adam_src@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There is an error message I get but it is only one line and just flashes for a moment. Can you tell Pine to provide a more detailed message and wait till you are able to read it? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:58:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E2waTM007770 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:58:36 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 18:58:36 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E2wZPs028596; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:58:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E2vjqt021408; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:57:45 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E2vKDN179044 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:57:20 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 18:57:19 2002 -0800 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E2vIre002131 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:57:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (ricklew@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g2E2vFq25641; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:57:15 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ricklew@shellworld.net) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:57:15 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rick Lewis To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Error message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Adam X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Adam, After you know you've gotten the error message, hit m for main menu, and j for journal. I think the last ten status/error messages are displayed. I wish the number was higher, but, hey, it's a nice feature nonetheless. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:12:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E3C9TM008058 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:12:09 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 19:12:06 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E3C5mT032076; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:12:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E3BPlZ012988; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:11:25 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E3AdDN025612 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:10:39 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 19:10:38 2002 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E3AcIe005387 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:10:38 -0800 Received: from MPC96 (mpc110.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.110]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2E3AaK469318; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:10:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:10:44 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Error message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Administrator@MPC96 X-To: Rick Lewis X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Rick Lewis (ricklew@shellworld.net) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) After you know you've gotten the error message, hit m for main menu, and j :) for journal. :) I think the last ten status/error messages are displayed. :) I wish the number was higher, but, hey, it's a nice feature nonetheless. It's actually 100 messages for all versions of Unix Pine. What I do when I find an error that I can duplicate and the message in the Journal is not long enough, is to go to the main menu, press 9 to set the debug mode to level 9 (only works with Pine compiled with debug), repeat the error and quit Pine, then I edit the file ~/.pine-debug1 to read the error, almost at the bottom of the file. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:32:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E3WKTM008440 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:32:20 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 19:32:19 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E3WImT032479; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:32:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E3VblZ013048; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:31:38 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E3UYDN136836 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:30:34 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 19:30:32 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp-stjh-01-04.rogers.nf.net (smtp-stjh-01-04.rogers.nf.net [192.75.13.144]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E3UVre007153 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:30:31 -0800 Received: from wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net (wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net [205.251.199.137]) by smtp-stjh-01-04.rogers.nf.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2E3UT019412 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:00:29 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:03:31 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adam To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Error message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: adam_src@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Rick Lewis (ricklew@shellworld.net) wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) After you know you've gotten the error message, hit m for main menu, and j > :) for journal. > :) I think the last ten status/error messages are displayed. > :) I wish the number was higher, but, hey, it's a nice feature nonetheless. > > It's actually 100 messages for all versions of Unix Pine. What I do when I > find an error that I can duplicate and the message in the Journal is not > long enough, is to go to the main menu, press 9 to set the debug mode to > level 9 (only works with Pine compiled with debug), repeat the error and > quit Pine, then I edit the file ~/.pine-debug1 to read the error, almost > at the bottom of the file. I looked in the Debug files, and couldn't see the error. I suppose this all doesn't work out with PC Pine? The error is not very detailed in that journal. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:43:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E3hOTM008653 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:43:24 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 19:43:22 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E3hMmT032718; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:43:22 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E3grqt019862; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:42:54 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2E3g9DN026130 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:42:09 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 13 19:42:08 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net [192.75.13.141]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2E3g3c6016404 for ; Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:42:07 -0800 Received: from wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net (wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net [205.251.199.137]) by smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2E3g3H02171 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:12:03 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:15:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adam To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Error message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: adam_src@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Never mind. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 04:18:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ECIqTM021180 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 04:18:52 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 04:18:50 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2ECIoPs006192; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 04:18:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ECIHeo009554; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 04:18:17 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2ECDGDN104790 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 04:13:16 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 04:13:16 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2ECDFre010404 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 04:13:15 -0800 Received: from 213-78-79-18.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-79-18.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.79.18]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEN34348; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:13:07 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:18:09 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 13 Mar 2002 Adam (adam_src@fastmail.fm) wrote: > There was a failure validating the SSL/TLS certificate for the server > > fastmail.fm > > The reason for the failure was > > Server name does not match certificate (details) This is a Fastmail.fm FAQ, i.e.: The solution is to use www.fastmail.fm as the IMAP server name (because this is what the certificate is for). On both my Power Pine page and my Changing Your From Header in Pine page, I discuss setting up Pine to access Fastmail.fm using TLS. HTH, Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:53:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EIrZTM001133 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:53:35 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 10:53:34 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2EIrYPs016769; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:53:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EIpvlZ014176; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:51:57 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EIoRDN052884 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:50:28 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 10:50:27 2002 -0800 Received: from vax.hanford.org ([216.218.218.27]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EIoRIe019826 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:50:27 -0800 Received: (qmail 21625 invoked by uid 1828); 14 Mar 2002 18:47:42 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 10:47:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bad messages when pine can't connect MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN pine 4.44.. I *think* I may have reported this in the past, if so, sorry. (I don't know where, if anywhere, to search old mailing list messages..) My mail server must have gone down, since it lost connection and I can't reconnect. I quit and restarted pine (unfortunately the normal "if it doesn't work, try it again" approach, instead of everything coping with weird situations).. now I'm at what I think is the main menu -- it's showing me the main menu, but every key is "not defined for this screen". e.g. [Command "Up Arrow" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help] I remember I reported either this or something like this previously, and the case was that pine thought it was at a different screen than it really was at.. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:57:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EKvLTM005868 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:57:21 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 12:57:20 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2EKvKPs021333; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:57:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EKaAlZ016862; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:36:11 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EKZ7DN079506 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:35:07 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 12:35:06 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net [192.75.13.141]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2EKZ4ZB022372 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 12:35:05 -0800 Received: from wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net (wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net [205.251.199.137]) by smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2EKYuH22799 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:04:56 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 17:07:59 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adam To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: adam_src@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why is it that folders from the first collection disappear when you add the second collection? And then says Can't create mailbox node as well. On Thu, 14 Mar 2002, Nancy McGough wrote: > Pine page and my Changing Your From Header in Pine page, I > discuss setting up Pine to access Fastmail.fm using TLS. What is TLS? From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:42:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EMg4TM009535 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:42:04 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 14:42:03 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2EMg2Ps025067; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:42:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EMfPqt014112; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:41:25 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EMdTDN120310 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:39:29 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 14:39:28 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2EMdSIe014651 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:39:28 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.17]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2EMdQYB016642 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:39:26 -0800 Received: FROM mailhost2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 14:39:25 2002 -0800 Received: from [140.142.110.162] (D-140-142-110-162.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.110.162]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2EMdPwx006473; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:39:25 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:39:25 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Lynne Bivona To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Bug? Feature? ListMatches In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gopi Sundaram X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: lbiv@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Gopi, It's not a bug. ListMatches is supposed to work that way. I think what you want in this instance is TAB (enable-tab-completion in your Setup Config to use it). Entering TAB twice will take you to a list of folders names that begin with the string you typed. Lynne Bivona On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Gopi Sundaram wrote: > I don't like this behavior. I'm not sure if it's a bug or not: > > (G)otoFldr and type in a few letters. In my case, I typed in "li". Then, > I did a (^X)ListMatches. The list it gave me was (clint, links, list, > zoli). > > It found all occurrences of the string "li" instead of names that > started with "li" (links, list). Is that the expected behavior? > > -- > Gopi Sundaram > gopi@cse.sc.edu > http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:32:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2F3W5TM016545 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:32:05 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 19:32:04 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2F3W3Ps032667; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:32:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2F3VQR8015708; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:31:26 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2F3TsDN071362 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:29:54 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 14 19:29:54 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net [192.75.13.141]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2F3TqIe010746 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 19:29:53 -0800 Received: from wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net (wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net [205.251.199.137]) by smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2F3ToH05640 for ; Thu, 14 Mar 2002 23:59:51 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 00:02:54 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adam To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Speed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: adam_src@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there some way to speed up mail access? As I notice that you browse the mail slow at first, and then gets faster. Seems to buffer data. But switch mailbox, and again slow. It would help to buffer that in both cases. So 200 messages in one inbox, 100 messages each in two mailboxes, each case should be the same amount of time to access. Instead of being slow every time you switch. Because Pine seems to give no details about the mailboxes except their names, no Megs, sizes, no. of msgs, Read indicators, Priority msgs contained, etcetera. So you need to switch a lot. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:19:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2H5JCOT004555 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:19:12 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 16 21:19:11 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2H5JBmT030673; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:19:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2H5IZR8032564; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:18:35 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2H5GODN041722 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:16:24 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 16 21:16:23 2002 -0800 Received: from pooh.ASARian.org (rdu57-249-095.nc.rr.com [66.57.249.95]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2H5GMZB013423 for ; Sat, 16 Mar 2002 21:16:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (fuzzy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pooh.ASARian.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2H58K143190 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 00:08:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fuzzy@pooh.asarian.org) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 00:08:20 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Fuzzy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: changing system default mailbox MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-No-Archive: Yes X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN system OS: FreeBSD 4.4 Pine: pine 4.44 we like to change the place where pine looks for incoming email. the old location is /var/mail/userid the new location is /home.userid/.mbox we're planing on using procmail as the local delivery agent and its recipie will deliver to the new location. I've changed /etc/login.conf to adjust the :setenv= tag, ran the "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf" to rebuild the database. then logged out then logged in setenv reports that the MAIL variable is now set correctly to /home/fuzzy/.mbox. I manually copied some email to .mbox to "prime the pump" then ran pine. pine still went to /var/mail/fuzzy, and copied the data to /home/fuzzy/mbox? what do I need to do to make pine look at /home/fuzzy/.mbox (the value of the MAIL environment variable)? Thanks Fuzzy -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:16:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2HJGuOT025255 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:16:57 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 17 11:16:56 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2HJGuPs008554; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:16:56 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2HJGGeo026834; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:16:16 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2HJF0DN167320 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:15:00 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 17 11:14:59 2002 -0800 Received: from pooh.ASARian.org (rdu57-249-095.nc.rr.com [66.57.249.95]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2HJEwZB009099 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 11:14:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (fuzzy@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pooh.ASARian.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2HJ72175107; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:07:02 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from fuzzy@pooh.asarian.org) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 14:07:02 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Fuzzy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: how do I change the default INBOX source? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-No-Archive: Yes X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN FreeBSD 4.4 Pine 4.44 tcsh 6.10.00 we'd like to change the default mailbox INBOX from /var/mail/userid to /home/userid/.mbox but we don't understand where pine is getting the location from. It appears that pine is appending /var/mail/test to /user/test/mbox, then using /usr/test/mbox as INBOX. we thought it was from the MAIL environment variable, which is set in /etc/login.conf, we tried changing that and then did a "cap_mkdb /etc/login.conf". logged into a test account. setenv verified that the MAIL environment variable was now "/home/test/.mbox". we put mail into that file for testing, but pine went to /var/mail/test anyway? is there a configuration variable, or a compile time option? thanks in advance. Fuzzy -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:05:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2I351OT032059 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:05:01 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 17 19:05:00 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2I350Ps015751; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:05:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2I33ZR8067524; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:03:35 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2I322DN117928 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:02:03 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 17 19:02:02 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net [192.75.13.141]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2I31uZB018379 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:02:01 -0800 Received: from computer1 (wiley-1-300133.roadrunner.nf.net [205.251.199.73]) by smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2I31qH19570 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:31:55 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 23:35:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adam To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Rot13 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: adam_src@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do I decode ROT13? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:32:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2I3WOOT032430 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:32:24 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 17 19:32:18 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2I3WIPs016158; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:32:18 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2I3VJqt021940; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:31:19 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2I3U4DN018438 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:30:05 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 17 19:30:04 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu (moultrie.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2I3U4c6021899 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 19:30:04 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961BA1FA2E for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 22:30:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:30:03 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Rot13 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, Adam wrote: > How do I decode ROT13? The same way you encode it ;-) http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/read.html#rot13 -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:52:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2I5qjOT001945 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:52:45 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 17 21:52:44 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2I5qiPs018365; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:52:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2I5ptlZ014046; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:51:55 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2I5oJDN183132 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:50:19 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 17 21:50:18 2002 -0800 Received: from svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.46.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2I5oHc6003319 for ; Sun, 17 Mar 2002 21:50:18 -0800 Received: from Tim.ncf.coxexpress.com (cpe-gan-24-136-34-81-cmcpe.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.34.81]) by svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g2I5oHF23673 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 00:50:17 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 00:50:18 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Timothy J. Luoma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 'sender' patch for PINE4.44 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE Mailing List X-X-Sender: luomat@mail.peak.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Due to several requests, I have released a new patched send.c (rather than a diff, but changes are commented in text and can be easily seen by someone running 'diff' if they so choose) Note: this does not eliminate the 'sender' header, but allows you to define your own "Sender:" header if you so choose. (Basically it disables some error checking that the fine PINE programmers put in there). The file can be downloaded at http://www.peak.org/~luomat/pine/4.44/ Use of the file implies consent with http://www.peak.org/~luomat/pine/4.44/send.c.README.txt No promises for functionality or future support. It works for me, and that's really all I was going for ;-) TjL -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 02:51:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2IApCOT008788 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 02:51:13 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 18 02:51:11 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2IApBPs023113; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 02:51:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2IAoJlZ012394; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 02:50:20 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2IAmNDN052602 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 02:48:23 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 18 02:48:22 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2IAmLre002848 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 02:48:22 -0800 Received: from 213-78-73-56.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-73-56.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.73.56]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AER22713; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:48:01 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 10:53:36 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Speed In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 15 Mar 2002 Adam (adam_src@fastmail.fm) wrote: > Is there some way to speed up mail access? I have 21 tips for speeding up Pine here I hope they help! Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:31:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J1ViOT003918 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:31:44 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 18 17:31:27 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2J1VRmT018999; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:31:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J1Ukeo032914; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:30:46 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J1TSDN060280 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:29:28 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 18 17:29:26 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net [192.75.13.141]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2J1TPre021099 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 17:29:25 -0800 Received: from wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net (wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net [205.251.199.137]) by smtp-stjh-01-01.rogers.nf.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2J1TNH28882 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:59:24 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:02:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adam To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Reply mail-to MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: adam_src@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In a mail program, when you hit reply the reply template is directed to whatever program is listed in IE Internet options. How do I so direct Pine when I press R? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:15:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J5FTOT007830 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:15:29 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 18 21:15:28 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2J5FSmT023028; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:15:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J5Egqt013022; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:14:42 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J5DVDN155910 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:13:31 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 18 21:13:30 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.vo.com ([208.36.81.99]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2J5DTIe016466 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:13:30 -0800 Received: from gandolph.ASGARD.jms (24-164-155-122.nyc.rr.com [24.164.155.122]) by mail.vo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id g2J5DQWT020971 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:13:28 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:14:49 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: READ-ONLY/lost-connection recovery In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: alex@mail.vo.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm don't think I got an answer for this so I will ask again.... How do I get Pine to reconnect after it loses a connection or the session becomes read-only? -Alex- On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, S. Alexander Jacobson wrote: > Ok. Thats good if you have multiple sessions, but > I often leave Pine open for long periods of time > and in that time it occasionally looses its > connection. I do a manual G INBOX to get it back. > That seems like a pain. How can I make it restore > automatically. (Outlook restores automatically) > > -Alex- > > On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > > On Mar 4, 2002, 15:32 (-0500) S. Alexander Jacobson wro= te: > > > > > Is there a way to set Pine to reconnect > > > automatically on lost connections and is there a > > > way to restore writability if another process hits > > > your INBOX? > > > > If you create an INBOX in mbx format in your home directory, pine will > > move your mail to that instead of in the public place. And then pine wi= ll > > be able to have several concurrent R/W sessions to your INBOX. > > > > > > Mats > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se > > Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 > > SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > S. Alexander Jacobson i2x Media > 1-212-787-1914 voice 1-603-288-1280 fax > > > ___________________________________________________________________ S. Alexander Jacobson i2x Media 1-212-787-1914 voice 1-603-288-1280 fax From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:05:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J65BOT008554 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:05:11 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 18 22:05:07 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2J656mT023986; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:05:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J5i7eo017832; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:44:07 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J5h5DN115572 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:43:05 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 18 21:43:04 2002 -0800 Received: from fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.71]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2J5h2Ie020851 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 21:43:03 -0800 Received: from stakkerhumanoid ([24.157.197.12]) by fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.04.06 201-253-122-122-106-20020109) with ESMTP id <20020319054302.TATS5488.fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@stakkerhumanoid> for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:43:02 -0500 Message-Id: <001e01c1cf09$24f0ca20$0cc59d18@mtag.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:44:30 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Stakker Humanoid" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine with pop3 = how? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001B_01C1CEDF.3B175BE0" X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep01-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.157.197.12] using ID at Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:43:01 -0500 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C1CEDF.3B175BE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable apologies, but I am completely lost with this. can I setup pine to use with my current pop3 email account? Ive = contacted my isp and they have no idea what Im talking about, all they = could do is give me smtp and pop addys..Like is it possible for me to = setup Pine with this and/or view my mails without having to download = them (like outlook express does) I used Pine for 5 years during school and never had to configure or do = anything really, my account was just always there, and I really want to = continue using it.=20 Regards ------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C1CEDF.3B175BE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
apologies, but I am completely lost = with=20 this.
 
can I setup pine to use with my current = pop3 email=20 account? Ive contacted my isp and they have no idea what Im talking = about, all=20 they could do is give me smtp and pop addys..Like is it possible for me=20 to setup Pine with this and/or view my mails without = having to=20 download them (like outlook express does)
I used Pine for 5 years during = school and=20 never had to configure or do anything really, my account was = just=20 always there, and I really want to continue using = it. 
 
Regards
------=_NextPart_000_001B_01C1CEDF.3B175BE0-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:16:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J6GYOT008756 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:16:34 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 18 22:16:33 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2J6GXmT024196; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:16:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J6G0qt020150; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:16:00 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2J668DN176630 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:06:10 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Mar 18 22:06:07 2002 -0800 Received: from maild.telia.com (maild.telia.com [194.22.190.101]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2J665re030988 for ; Mon, 18 Mar 2002 22:06:06 -0800 Received: from d1o907.telia.com (d1o907.telia.com [195.252.38.241]) by maild.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2J664815953 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 07:06:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail1.telia.com (h16n1fls21o907.telia.com [212.181.140.16]) by d1o907.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA28085 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 07:06:04 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200203190606.HAA28085@d1o907.telia.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 07:07:13 +0100 (W. Europe Standard Time) Reply-To: info@nakawe.se Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Veronica Loell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine with pop3 = how? Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-URL: http://www.ultrafunk.com/products/popcorn X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > >Subject: pine with pop3 = how? > From: "Stakker Humanoid" > Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 00:44:30 -0500 > To: Pine Discussion Forum > >apologies, but I am completely lost with this. > >can I setup pine to use with my current pop3 email account? Ive contacted my isp and they have no idea what Im talking about, all they could do is give me smtp and pop addys..Like is it possible for me to setup Pine with this and/or view my mails without having to download them (like outlook express does) >I used Pine for 5 years during school and never had to configure or do anything really, my account was just always there, and I really want to continue using it. > >Regards Yeah it's no problem to set it up to view emails thru pop3 I do that on my Win2k- machine. The only problem is that you cannot have pine look for more emails without restarting it. You do of course view them on the pop3-server without downloading until you want to do that. There should be some instructions about how to configure for pop3 at the Pine-information Center. I know I have found it there before. What you do is basically setting inbox-path to something like mailserver.your.com/pop3/user=yourusername Try looking at http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ also. - Veronica Loell From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:43:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JIh4OT028510 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:43:04 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 10:43:03 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JIh3Ps005858; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:43:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JIgTeo019100; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:42:29 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JIfEDN080670 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:41:14 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 10:41:13 2002 -0800 Received: from vax.hanford.org ([216.218.218.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JIfDZB002748 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:41:13 -0800 Received: (qmail 26865 invoked by uid 1828); 19 Mar 2002 18:38:20 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:38:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: reconnect In-Reply-To: <200203190810.g2J8A1qt023648@list2.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" >I'm don't think I got an answer for this so I will >ask again.... > >How do I get Pine to reconnect after it loses a >connection or the session becomes read-only? At least with an IMAP connection, if you go back to the main menu and reselect the folder (i.e. "ML" which should be on your INBOX), it will reopen the connection. Maybe there's a better answer, but that's what I always do. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:47:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JIl7OT028725 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:47:07 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 10:47:07 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JIl6Ps006032; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:47:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JIkXlZ014076; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:46:33 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JIjfDN113922 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:45:41 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 10:45:40 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JIjeIe009524 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:45:40 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.18]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JIjeFJ017722 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:45:40 -0800 Received: FROM smtp.washington.edu BY mailscan-out3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 10:45:40 2002 -0800 Received: from butsumetsu-shi.cac.washington.edu (butsumetsu-shi.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.118]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JIjdkx017182 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:45:40 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 10:45:40 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: re: smth authentication MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU X-To: "Stefan K. Schneider" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have analyzed the SMTP authentication problem between Pine and Yahoo. The problem is a bug in Yahoo's SMTP server. In its implementation of the PLAIN authentication mechanism, it sends a bogus "334 ok, go on" response to the AUTH PLAIN command: S: 220 smtp016.mail.yahoo.com ESMTP C: ehlo tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu S: 250-smtp016.mail.yahoo.com S: 250-AUTH=LOGIN PLAIN S: 250-PIPELINING S: 250 8BITMIME C: auth plain S: 334 ok, go on <== this is bogus!!! The correct response is "334 ". What follows after the 334 and a space is a server challenge, represented in BASE64 according to the SASL specification (RFC 2222) and the SMTP service specification for authentication (RFC 2554). Pine is unable to interpret "ok, go on" as any sort of valid SASL challenge, and aborts the authentication. The "security problem" warning is a separate issue. It is merely a diagnostic, and is neither the cause nor a symptom of your inability to authenticate. RFC 2595, the specification for the PLAIN SASL mechanism, requires that PLAIN may only be offered in an SSL or TLS-secured session. Yahoo's SMTP server does not offer SSL/TLS security, therefore it should not offer PLAIN. Nor should it offer LOGIN, for that matter; however, LOGIN is a non-standard SASL mechanism and thus is not under the same restriction. The important thing though is that that "security problem" message is just a warning message, and isn't actually a cause of the problem. Yahoo appears to be running a qmail-based SMTP server. Someone should report these bugs to the maintainers of qmail: 1) bogus "ok, go on" in the 334 challenge. 2) offering PLAIN without TLS support It won't be me. -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:03:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JJ3POT029352 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:03:25 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 11:03:24 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JJ3OPs006688; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:03:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JJ2hlZ018452; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:02:43 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JJ1rDN072964 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:01:53 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 11:01:52 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu (moultrie.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JJ1qZB008505 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 11:01:52 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954791FA2B for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 14:01:51 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 13:01:51 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine with pop3 = how? In-Reply-To: <001e01c1cf09$24f0ca20$0cc59d18@mtag.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Stakker Humanoid wrote: > can I setup pine to use with my current pop3 email account? FAQ. http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/read.html#pop3 -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:02:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JK2iOT031881 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:02:44 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 12:02:43 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JK2hmT010865; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:02:43 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JK23R8022210; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:02:04 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JK0iDN065662 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:00:44 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 12:00:44 2002 -0800 Received: from fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com [66.185.86.72]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JK0hre003884 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:00:43 -0800 Received: from stakkerhumanoid ([24.157.197.12]) by fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com (InterMail vM.5.01.04.06 201-253-122-122-106-20020109) with ESMTP id <20020319200018.VSWR8307.fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com@stakkerhumanoid>; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:00:18 -0500 Message-Id: <000a01c1cf80$e71103a0$0cc59d18@mtag.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:01:44 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Stakker Humanoid" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine with pop3 = how? References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Gopi Sundaram" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH LOGIN at fep02-mail.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com from [24.157.197.12] using ID at Tue, 19 Mar 2002 15:00:18 -0500 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN big thanks to all for the help, but theres still some minor things Im having trouble with. Ive set it up fine so I can go into my inbox, choose which of my accounts and go through my mail. but everytime I try and send or reply I get a "553 small error" type deal, which is odd since Ive plugged in my smtp server in config. Also, when I run pine, I get an initial 'cant find inbox type' message, then I have to go into my folder options and click on the inbox I want to open, can I set it so it automatically asks me my user/pass at the beginning, or so it opens up to my inbox automatically? I have multiple accounts but im mainly only using the one. I know its something minor Im missing. Many thanks again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gopi Sundaram" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:01 PM Subject: Re: pine with pop3 = how? > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Stakker Humanoid wrote: > > > can I setup pine to use with my current pop3 email account? > > FAQ. > > http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/read.html#pop3 > > -- > Gopi Sundaram > gopi@cse.sc.edu > http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:03:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JK3eOT031956 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:03:40 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 12:03:39 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JK3cmT010897; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:03:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JK2xeo019032; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:03:00 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JK28DN043766 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:02:09 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 12:02:05 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JK24ZB024483 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:02:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2JK1xk01113; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:02:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020319205940.N1075-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 21:01:59 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: READ-ONLY/lost-connection recovery In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: "S. Alexander Jacobson" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 19, 2002, 00:14 (-0500) S. Alexander Jacobson wrote: > How do I get Pine to reconnect after it loses a > connection or the session becomes read-only? I do not know about reconnection (to an IMAP server), but when it comes to being read-only there is no way back as far as I know. The way to avoid the problem om read-only is to use the MBX format of the INBOX. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:59:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JKxeOT001698 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:59:40 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 12:59:38 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JKxcPs011662; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:59:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JKx3R8035428; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:59:03 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JKvWDN125622 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:57:32 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 12:57:31 2002 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2JKvVZB005492 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:57:31 -0800 Message-Id: <200203192057.g2JKvVZB005492@mxu2.u.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:57:31 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 19 12:57:30 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.uruklink.net ([62.32.60.16]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2JKvNPs011574 for ; Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:57:25 -0800 Received: from imad [10.0.40.99] by mail.uruklink.net (SMTPD32-7.05) id A6D65D0122; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 00:00:06 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--VEGTQRSLU7OLI341UF" Message-Id: <20020320000046.SM00552@imad> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 00:00:21 +0300 ----VEGTQRSLU7OLI341UF Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ----VEGTQRSLU7OLI341UF-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:11:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KFBeOT029968 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:11:40 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 07:11:34 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KFBXmT005022; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:11:33 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KFADqt016216; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:10:14 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KF75DN143344 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:07:05 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 07:06:55 2002 -0800 Received: from ural2.hszk.bme.hu (ural2.hszk.bme.hu [152.66.130.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KF6rZB014982 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 07:06:54 -0800 Received: (from halasz@localhost) by ural2.hszk.bme.hu (8.11.3/8.11.3) id g2KF6l221329; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:06:47 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:06:47 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: hp.2002@hszk.bme.hu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Restriction question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: halasz@ural2 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I'm new in this list. I checked the archive but did not find answer to my question. Please, help me if somebody can. The situation. Our server (SUN with Solaris8) has approx. 15.000 student accounts. They may log in (quite) everywhere from the internet, and (among others) they can use PINE. In general, we do not want to introduce very strict limitations. But in our building there is a room where there are some terminals for (quite) free use. There were some very sad experience in usage of these terminals, so we decided that logging in from that terminals we DO RESTRICT our system to use PINE only. We solved this with modifying the login shell script (/etc/profile since everyone uses bash shell) that if the user comes from that terminals, he/she can use only PINE (exec pine is in the script in that case). Of course, we have to limit to use different options (eg. reaching subshell, suspending pine, etc) to prevent to get a "full" shell prompt. This limitations cannot written in the pine.conf.fixed since "in general" we do not want such limitations. So we decided that in this /etc/profile script we'll use the command line parameters to set these limitations. After it we realized that the command line parameters can be overwritten by the user if his .pinerc file is writable, we made a workaround on this problem. NOW we still have a problem with the configuration parameters. Although we have the following start line (I wrapped the line only for this mail, all is in one line of course): pine -feature-list="no-enable-msg-view-addresses, no-enable-msg-view-web-hostnames, no-use-subshell-for-suspend, no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd, no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly, no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd, no-enable-msg-view-urls, no-enable-suspend, no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt" -editor=/bin/false -url-viewers=/bin/false -speller=/bin/false -display-filters='' -sending-filters='' -download-command=/bin/false -upload-command=/bin/false -image-viewer=/bin/false -ssh-open-timeout=0 -rsh-open-timeout=0 The users STILL CAN GET full shell with the following procedure: 1. From the main menu choose "Help" 2. Search the URL that points to the home web page of the PINE 3. press RETURN to go to this url (this url is highlighted, it means that it is selectable) 4. in this case Pine asks for the Url-viewer program 5. the user type "/usr/local/bin/bash" 6. He is ready, he's got a SHELL........... :((((( So, my question: Is it any possibility to make that address NOT CHOOSABLE, or disable the entire Help menupoint in the main menu? Or, perhaps any other tip, how to prevent this possible action? Thanks in advance Peter Halasz system administrator Budapest University of Technology and Economics Student Computer Centre Hungary -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:47:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KHl1OT001577 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:47:01 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 09:46:59 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KHkxmT009275; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:46:59 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KHjZeo024720; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:45:35 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KHiLDN062240 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:44:21 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 09:44:21 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp-stjh-01-02.rogers.nf.net (smtp-stjh-01-02.rogers.nf.net [192.75.13.142]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KHiJIe030594 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:44:20 -0800 Received: from wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net (wiley-1-299174.roadrunner.nf.net [205.251.199.137]) by smtp-stjh-01-02.rogers.nf.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g2KHifk07610 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:14:42 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 14:17:29 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Adam To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: reconnect In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: adam_src@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote: > >From: "S. Alexander Jacobson" > >I'm don't think I got an answer for this so I will > >ask again.... > > > >How do I get Pine to reconnect after it loses a > >connection or the session becomes read-only? > > At least with an IMAP connection, if you go back to the main menu and reselect > the folder (i.e. "ML" which should be on your INBOX), it will > reopen the connection. Didn't work for me. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:47:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KHlkOT001643 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:47:46 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 09:47:45 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KHljmT009307; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:47:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KHlDlZ014150; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:47:13 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KHkXDN060302 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:46:33 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 09:46:33 2002 -0800 Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KHkXZB018440 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:46:33 -0800 Received: from user-2ivet8k.dialup.mindspring.com ([165.247.117.20]) by smtp6.mindspring.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16nkAS-0006Sc-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:46:32 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:40:53 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Allen Ziegenfus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: URL Viewing MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I view a URL from Pine, it brings up my browser fine. However, I was wondering if there was a way to get the browser to come up separately, without 'blocking' Pine (I can't read my email while viewing the URL). I tried inserting a & in the URL viewer command, but that didn't seem to work. Any ideas? I tried searching some of the various FAQs and didn't find anything on this. P.S. Is this the appropriate forum for these types of questions? Allen -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:00:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KI0sOT002275 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:00:54 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:00:50 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KI0oPs009297; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:00:50 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KHxaR8020738; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:59:36 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KHvPDN094318 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:57:26 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 09:57:24 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KHvNZB021271 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 09:57:23 -0800 Received: from caladium.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [10.17.0.26]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id SAA08916 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:57:21 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (piotr@localhost) by caladium.sonytel.be (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2KHvKL17413 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:57:20 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:57:20 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Murphy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: URL Viewing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: caladium.sonytel.be: piotr owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: piotr@caladium.sonytel.be X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Allen Ziegenfus wrote: >When I view a URL from Pine, it brings up my browser fine. However, I was >wondering if there was a way to get the browser to come up separately, >without 'blocking' Pine (I can't read my email while viewing the URL). I >tried inserting a & in the URL viewer command, but that didn't seem to >work. > >Any ideas? I tried searching some of the various FAQs and didn't find >anything on this. For me it's working only if the browser is already opened. Fo example: 1) Netscape url-viewers = "/usr/local/bin/netscape -remote 'openURL(_URL_,new-window)'" 2) Opera url-viewers = "/usr/local/bin/opera -newwindow _URL_" For the IE I didn't try because there is no IE under Unix. :) Regards, Murphy -- __ __ || || -++- -++- -------------------------------------------------------- ||\ /|| e-mail: murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl GG 107745 || || Everything is possible - this is only a question of time \/564\/ -------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:14:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIEPOT002797 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:14:25 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:14:25 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KIEOmT010204; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:14:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KID6R8038836; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:13:06 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIC7DN094434 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:12:07 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:12:06 2002 -0800 Received: from mccoy.lsa.umich.edu (mccoy.lsa.umich.edu [141.211.61.24]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KIC5ZB025194 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:12:06 -0800 Received: from mozi.lsait.lsa.umich.edu (mozi.lsait.lsa.umich.edu [141.211.32.139]) by mccoy.lsa.umich.edu (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g2KIC4508170; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:12:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:12:06 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Montague To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: URL Viewing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: X-To: Murphy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Murphy wrote: > For the IE I didn't try because there is no IE under Unix. :) Well, there's no IE for the majority of flavors of Unix, but IE does exist for Solaris and HP-UX machines: http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie Mark Montague LS&A Information Technology The University of Michigan markmont@umich.edu From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:26:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIQaOT003247 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:26:36 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:26:35 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KIQYmT010629; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:26:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIObqt016916; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:24:37 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KINWDN111098 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:23:32 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:23:31 2002 -0800 Received: from mail2.panix.com (mail2.panix.com [166.84.1.73]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KINVc6002979 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:23:31 -0800 Received: from ProStar.localdomain (localhost.panix.com [127.0.0.1]) by mail2.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C92A38F48 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:23:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:23:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: URL Viewing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Allen Ziegenfus wrote: > When I view a URL from Pine, it brings up my browser fine. However, I was > wondering if there was a way to get the browser to come up separately, > without 'blocking' Pine (I can't read my email while viewing the URL). I > tried inserting a & in the URL viewer command, but that didn't seem to > work. I have a wrapper script (as opposed to trying to do it all via Pine Config) that's got an "&" in it, and my URL-viewer command comes right back. -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Washington, D.C. Home1: PO Box 914 Silver Spring, MD 20910-0914 kenny@panix.com Home2: 38010 Village Cmn. #217 Fremont, CA 94536-7525 (510) 745-0101 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:27:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIRaOT003322 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:27:36 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:27:36 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KIRZmT010656; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:27:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIQClZ021706; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:26:12 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIP7DN094244 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:25:07 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:25:06 2002 -0800 Received: from corten2.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KIP5c6003473 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:25:05 -0800 Received: from corten8.billschoolcraft.com ([192.168.7.8]) by corten2.billschoolcraft.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 16nklk-00072N-00 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:25:04 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:22:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bill Schoolcraft To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [.pinerc ?] rsh-path, rsh-command, rsh-open-timeout ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion X-Sender: bill@corten8 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello Family, In reading the O'Reilly's SSH book on using PINE with SSH (page_403) it makes mention of the options in ~/.pinerc of: rsh-path= rsh-command= rsh-open-timeout= I don't seem to have those options with my Pine version which is 4.21, can anyone comment on this ? Thanks -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ "UNIX, A Way Of Life." _\_v http://forwardslashunix.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:29:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIT0OT003414 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:29:00 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:28:59 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KISwPs010382; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:28:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KISClZ005362; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:28:12 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIRLDN025098 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:27:21 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:27:20 2002 -0800 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu (moultrie.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KIRJc6004105 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:27:19 -0800 Received: from mum.cse.sc.edu (mum.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.21]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F9211FA30 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:27:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 12:27:18 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: URL Viewing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@mum.cse.sc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Allen Ziegenfus wrote: > I tried inserting a & in the URL viewer command, but that didn't seem > to work. If the viewer command takes any cmd-line parameters, then you should tell Pine where to put the URL; otherwise it will put it at the end, making it look like "/path/to/cmd & url" which is probably wrong. What you want is url-viewers = /path/to/browser _URL_ & -- Gopi Sundaram gopi@cse.sc.edu http://www.cse.sc.edu/~gopalan/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:30:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIUrOT003562 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:30:53 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:30:52 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KIUpPs010467; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:30:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KITZR8031008; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:29:35 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KISsDN145412 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:28:54 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:28:54 2002 -0800 Received: from corten2.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KISrZB029514 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:28:53 -0800 Received: from corten8.billschoolcraft.com ([192.168.7.8]) by corten2.billschoolcraft.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 16nkpP-00072P-00 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:28:52 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:26:11 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bill Schoolcraft To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: #2 [.pinerc ?] rsh-path, rsh-command, rsh-open-time MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion X-Sender: bill@corten8 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Found the ssh variable in the file, I was using "grep" to find the "rsh" chars.... Thanks -- Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ "UNIX, A Way Of Life." _\_v http://forwardslashunix.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:45:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIjAOT004212 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:45:10 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:45:09 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KIj9mT011471; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:45:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIhQlZ014670; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:43:26 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2KIgcDN094248 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:42:38 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 10:42:37 2002 -0800 Received: from equake.geol.vt.edu (equake.geol.vt.edu [128.173.184.42]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2KIgac6008174 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 10:42:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (snoke@localhost) by equake.geol.vt.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g2KIgZ210822; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:42:35 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:42:34 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Arthur Snoke To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: #2 [.pinerc ?] rsh-path, rsh-command, rsh-open-time In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: equake.geol.vt.edu: snoke owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: snoke@equake.geol.vt.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a possible solution for viewing html attachments. Below that I have a question I would appreciate comments on. I use pine 4.43 on Solaris, and I can access netscape which is either already open or not with a simple script. In my .pinerc I have url-viewers=3D/stuff/snoke/pine/stuff/pineURL and then vtso{snoke}1181: cat pineURL #!/bin/sh url=3D`echo $1 | sed -e 's/,/%2C/g'` if [ -n "$DISPLAY" ]; then if [ -h $HOME/.netscape/lock ]; then /usr/local/bin/netscape -remote "openURL($url)" else /usr/local/bin/netscape "$url" >/dev/null 2>&1 & fi fi vtso{snoke}1182: A question in return: How can I view messages from hotmail, etc., which come with MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT What I see on my Terminal screen (Common Desk Top on Solaris) are lines like =A0 and then things like smart quotes or m-dashes come out with the control-sequence form. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:02:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2L52aOT020747 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:02:36 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 21:02:35 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2L52ZmT028513; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:02:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2L51aeo032962; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:01:37 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2L50UDN084722 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:00:30 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 20 21:00:29 2002 -0800 Received: from svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.46.5]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2L50SZB006489 for ; Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:00:29 -0800 Received: from Tim.ncf.coxexpress.com (cpe-gan-24-136-34-81-cmcpe.ncf.coxexpress.com [24.136.34.81]) by svr-ganmtc-appserv-mgmt.ncf.coxexpress.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g2L50RF07616; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:00:27 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:00:28 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Timothy J. Luoma" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [.pinerc ?] rsh-path, rsh-command, rsh-open-timeout ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bill Schoolcraft X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: luomat@mail.peak.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Bill Schoolcraft wrote: > rsh-path= > rsh-command= > rsh-open-timeout= > > I don't seem to have those options with my Pine version which is > 4.21, can anyone comment on this ? Try turning on 'expose-hidden-config' From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:41:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2LGfeOT004593 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:41:40 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 21 08:41:38 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2LGfcmT009193; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:41:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2LGeReo006958; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:40:27 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2LGd2DN130418 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:39:02 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 21 08:39:02 2002 -0800 Received: from niwot.scd.ucar.edu (niwot.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.8.223]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2LGd1Ie012259 for ; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 08:39:01 -0800 Received: from sedona.scd.ucar.edu (sedona.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.8.183]) by niwot.scd.ucar.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA12042; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:39:01 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (era@localhost) by sedona.scd.ucar.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18946; Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:39:01 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:39:00 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: era@ucar.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ed Arnold To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: URL Viewing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Allen Ziegenfus X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: sedona.scd.ucar.edu: era owned process doing -bs X-Sender: era@sedona.scd.ucar.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Allen Ziegenfus wrote: > When I view a URL from Pine, it brings up my browser fine. However, I was > wondering if there was a way to get the browser to come up separately, > without 'blocking' Pine (I can't read my email while viewing the URL). I > tried inserting a & in the URL viewer command, but that didn't seem to > work. > > Any ideas? I tried searching some of the various FAQs and didn't find > anything on this. > > P.S. Is this the appropriate forum for these types of questions? > > Allen > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Yes, this has been discussed before. On *n*x, in my .pinerc I specify "url-viewers=~/bin/ns", and the "ns" script is: #!/bin/sh # short script to invoke netscape from within pine as a background # process, so pine can continue. Only arg is the URL. # Author: Ed Arnold , but modified by Mike Miller & John # Soper NETSCAPE=/fs/local/bin/netscape URL=`echo $1 | sed 's/,/%2C/g'` # # handle viewing HTML attachment or message files # ATTACH=`echo $URL | grep /tmp/img-HTM | wc -l` if [ $ATTACH = 1 ]; then cp $URL ${URL}.html URL=${URL}.html fi if [ -h $HOME/.netscape/lock ]; then $NETSCAPE -noraise -remote openURL\("$URL"\,new_window\) & else $NETSCAPE "$URL" & fi From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:32:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2M8WuOT001379 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:32:56 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 22 00:32:55 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2M8WtmT003973; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:32:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2M8WEqt015648; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:32:14 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2M8HZDN125450 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:17:35 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 22 00:17:34 2002 -0800 Received: from sril1.sprintrpg.net.in ([203.112.128.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2M8HUc6016186 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:17:32 -0800 Received: from whouse.lemuir.com (IDENT:root@[203.112.144.101]) by sril1.sprintrpg.net.in (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2M8Gdc10257 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:47:10 +0530 Received: from localhost (blr.sreekumar@localhost) by whouse.lemuir.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id g2M8K2S05588 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:50:02 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 13:50:02 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Sreekumar To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: mail.txt MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Authentication-Warning: whouse.lemuir.com: blr.sreekumar owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have PINE 4.33 running under Linux 7.1. If I'm not able trace find mail.txt where do I track for my INBOX. -- Warm Regards, Sreekumar -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:20:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2MFKXOT011162 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:20:33 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 22 07:20:31 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2MFKVPs014636; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:20:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2MFGVqt015354; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:16:31 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2MFCVDN136834 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:12:32 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 22 07:12:30 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2MFCTZB021317 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 07:12:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2MFC6o06462; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:12:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020322161035.P6457-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 16:12:05 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mail.txt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Sreekumar X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 22, 2002, 13:50 (+0530) Sreekumar wrote: > I have PINE 4.33 running under Linux 7.1. If I'm not able trace find > mail.txt where do I track for my INBOX. If your login is sreekumar, your inbox is usually someting like /var/mail/sreekumar or /var/spool/mail/sreekumar under unix. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:30:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2N2UMOT031300 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:30:22 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 22 18:30:21 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2N2ULmT003060; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:30:21 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2N2TplZ019878; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:29:51 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2N2SMDN144552 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:28:23 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 22 18:28:21 2002 -0800 Received: from vax.hanford.org ([216.218.218.27]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2N2SLc6002806 for ; Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:28:21 -0800 Received: (qmail 13945 invoked by uid 1828); 23 Mar 2002 02:25:23 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 18:25:23 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: [/] at the end of folder names? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My account moved to a new mail server yesterday.. and I notice that today my pre-existing mail folders (except INBOX) are showing up like this: sent-mail[/] if I go onto that one, and type R to go into rename mode, the [/] is NOT showing up. So what does the [/] mean, and how can I turn it off? Note, that these actually aren't even directories in the folder list. The one subdirectory I have is showing up, as expected, with just a / at the end. It seems to be pine putting this on, since this isn't showing up in another mail program (Mail.app) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:33:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2NAXrOT007534 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:33:53 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 23 02:33:52 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2NAXqPs011208; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:33:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2NAWVlZ019902; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:32:32 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2NARqDN174846 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:27:52 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Mar 23 02:27:51 2002 -0800 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2NARoZB000905 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 02:27:51 -0800 Received: from 213-78-85-197.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-85-197.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.85.197]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AEW76524; Sat, 23 Mar 2002 10:27:42 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 10:34:01 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: imaps url request MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine! Info @ www.ii.com X-X-Sender: NULL@gmane.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine currently turns imap://whatever urls into links but it does not turn imaps://whatever into a link. It would be great if it did... Thanks, Nancy ^x -- ii Main Pine Page: Nancy McGough Infinite Ink --= Sent via Pine 4.44: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/MacOS X =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:33:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2OMXLOT018160 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:33:21 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 24 14:33:15 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2OMXEmT013131; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:33:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2OMWClZ013866; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:32:12 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2OMTlDN166782 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:29:47 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Mar 24 14:29:46 2002 -0800 Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2OMTjIe029644 for ; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 14:29:46 -0800 Received: from [194.97.50.135] (helo=mx2.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #4) id 16pGUj-0002co-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:29:45 +0100 Received: from b7b11.pppool.de ([213.7.123.17]) by mx2.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #4) id 16pGUi-0003NS-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:29:44 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2002 23:27:49 +0100 (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=28MEZ=29_Mitteleurop=E4ische_Zeit?=) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Cornelius C. Noack" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: folder format in pcpine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Warning: UNAuthenticated Sender X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello everybody interested in the mbox issue: I had sent a formal request to the pine developers to respond to this discussion, and this is the answer I got (sorry it's a bit dated -- I was away). I guess it would be helpful if all of you who have a stake in this would send a short message to Mark supporting the idea of having a user option in the next release! ccn. -- ..................................................................... _|_ / | \ \_|_/ Prof.Dr. Cornelius C. Noack Phones: _|_ __ Inst. f. Theor. Physik FB 1 office : +49 (421) 218-2427 | | | \ Universit"at Bremen secretary: -2422 |__| |__/ Kufsteiner Strasse Fax : -4869 | | | \ D - 28334 Bremen home : +49 (421) 34 22 36 | | |__/ Fax: 346 7872 PhyHB E-mail: noack@physik.uni-bremen.de WWW-page: www-theorie.physik.uni-bremen.de/~noack ....................................................................... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 16:52:35 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Crispin To: Cornelius C. Noack Cc: pine@CAC.Washington.EDU Subject: Re: folder format in pcpine #020306@12:31:35.28991 On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Cornelius C. Noack wrote: > There has been an ongoing discussion about this (specifically > the suggestion that pcpine provide an option for using the unix > mbox format also in pcpine). It is already possible to use the traditional UNIX mailbox format in PC Pine, and has been possible for many years. If you select a file that is in traditional UNIX mailbox format, PC Pine will read it without difficulty. If you wish to create a new mailbox in traditional UNIX format in PC Pine, you can do this by prefixing the new mailbox name with "#driver.unix/". For example, suppose you want to save a message to a new traditional UNIX format mailbox with name C:\Mail\junk.mbox. You can do this in PC Pine by entering "#driver.unix/C:\Mail\junk.mbox" to the folder name prompt. Of course, if your directory for saves is already C:\Mail, then you can simply enter "#driver.unix/junk.mbox" without the other options. If you want to avoid typing in "#driver.unix/" all the time, you can add a new folder collection of "#driver.unix/[]". You will have to edit your PINERC file manually to add this, and you'll end up with something like: folder-collections=mail\[], mbox-create #driver.unix/mail\[] The next time you save a message, just use ^N or ^P after the S command to move to the mbox-create collection, and then type in the new name. If you want us to change the default mailbox format in PC Pine to be traditional UNIX mailbox format instead of mbox format, we can't do that. There are several technical and historic reasons why traditional UNIX mailbox format is neither the default nor the recommended format in PC Pine. Furthermore, changing the default format would cause trouble for the existing installed base of PC Pine users. If we were ever to change the default format, it would probably be to the format used by Microsoft IIS SMTP server and not traditional UNIX mailbox format. What we may be able to do is add an advanced PINERC configuration option in a future version of PC Pine to allow you to change your default mailbox format for yourself. However, there are some caveats. If you change your default mailbox format, you will be running in a non-recommended configuation which is known to have limitations and reduced performance, and which is less thoroughly exercised than the recommended configuration. There is also no guarantee that doing so will interoperate with any other PC based software which uses traditional UNIX mbox format. There is no standard for the handling of traditional UNIX mbox format on the PC, or even for whether the newlines are UNIX-style LF or PC-style CRLF. Given these caveats, would a PINERC configuration option be acceptable for you? -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:52:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2QHqIOT018249 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:52:18 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 26 09:52:17 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2QHqGPs007010; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:52:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2QHoFR8015832; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:50:16 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2QHlSDN120288 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:47:28 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 26 09:47:27 2002 -0800 Received: from rhenium (rhenium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.93]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2QHlRre013868 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 09:47:27 -0800 Received: from host213-122-12-50.in-addr.btopenworld.com ([213.122.12.50]) by rhenium with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16pv2b-0000cd-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:47:26 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 17:52:55 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Hatton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: [/] at the end of folder names? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: dan@bib X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 22 Mar 2002, Matt Ackeret wrote: > sent-mail[/] > So what does the [/] mean, and how can I turn it off? I found a hint on the web that when a maildir format mailbox, containing both messages and sub-mailboxes, is shown in the Pine folder list, [.] gets appended to the name of that mailbox. I'm therefore hazarding a guess that the appearance of a character in square brackets, after a folder name, is telling you that the folder is in an unusual (probably message/file rather than flat-file) format, and the fact that the character is a "/" is telling you what format (perhaps mh.) Further evidence for this view is at . You could try asking the folks at your ISP if they changed any mailbox formats during the server changeover. If so, information about how to change them back again is at . Good luck Dan Hatton ================================================================================ Daniel C. Hatton B.A., M.Sci., A.M.Inst.P. Graduate Student E-Mail: World-Wide Web: Surface Mail: Wolfson Court, Girton College, Clarkson Road, Cambridge, UK. CB3 0EH ================================================================================ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:18:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2QLIQOT026605 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:18:26 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 26 13:18:26 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2QLIPmT011731; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:18:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2QLHfR8033194; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:17:41 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2QLG3DN052642 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:16:03 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 26 13:16:02 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2QLG2re032572 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:16:02 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.17]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2QLG2MQ025972 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:16:02 -0800 Received: FROM mailhost2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Mar 26 13:16:01 2002 -0800 Received: from [10.95.135.31] (fw135.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.30]) by mailhost2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2QLG1wx024487; Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:16:01 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2002 13:16:00 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jeff Franklin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: imaps url request In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jpf@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 23 Mar 2002, Nancy McGough wrote: > Pine currently turns > > imap://whatever > > urls into links but it does not turn > > imaps://whatever > > into a link. It would be great if it did... Hi Nancy, There is no RFC that defines an imaps URL scheme. Are these URLs that you are trying to generate? With TLS being the preferred way of doing encrypted connections, a separate URL scheme for secure IMAP is probably unnecessary. Jeff -- Jeff Franklin Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:09:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RI97OT028325 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:09:07 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 10:09:06 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RI95mT008635; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:09:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RI7leo008832; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:07:47 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RI4JDN160112 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:04:19 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 10:04:18 2002 -0800 Received: from andrew.triumf.ca (andrew.Triumf.CA [142.90.106.59]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RI4IIe012024 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:04:18 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:andrew@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andrew.triumf.ca (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g2RI4Dg04677 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:04:13 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:04:13 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Andrew Daviel Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andrew Daviel To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: delete/undelete key behaviour MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I seem to often be in the situation where a lot of mail in a particular folder is junk, but there are some good ones (I filter into multiple inboxes with procmail). For instance, spam folders, postmaster folders and cron folders. So, holding down the "D" key in the index page is a quick way to delete a block of junk mail. If there are only a few hundred messages messages, there is no problem. But with more than that, Pine lags behind the keyboard. Again, not usually a problem. If I over-run and there are a few good messages I can quickly back up and undelete the good ones. I just had a situation (it's happened a few times before) where I've had 5000 junk messages with blocks of hundreds of good ones interspersed. The best thing, I guess, would for me to have written a better filter in the first place, or to intelligently re-filter the folder after the fact. To cut a long story short (or not, as the case may be), I'd like the "U" key to behave like the "D" key so that I can quickly undelete deleted blocks of messages (BTW, anyone know of a post-filter program, preferably something that will feed procmail or use procmail rules ?) -- Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376 security@triumf.ca -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:15:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RIF2OT028684 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:15:02 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 10:15:01 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RIF1mT008858; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:15:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RIEGR8038834; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:14:16 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RIC4DN052704 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:12:04 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 10:12:03 2002 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RIC3re022094 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:12:03 -0800 Received: from mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.17]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RIC3FJ029789 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:12:03 -0800 Received: FROM smtp.washington.edu BY mailscan-out1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 10:12:02 2002 -0800 Received: from tigger (D-140-142-110-233.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.110.233]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RIC2kx013863 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:12:02 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:12:15 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: delete/undelete key behaviour In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Andrew Daviel X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@mailer23.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN A workaround would be to use the single message Select cmd ":", which does advance to the next msg... then Apply Undelete. -teg On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Andrew Daviel wrote: > > I seem to often be in the situation where a lot of mail in > a particular folder is junk, but there are some good ones (I filter into > multiple inboxes with procmail). For instance, spam folders, postmaster > folders and cron folders. > > So, holding down the "D" key in the index page is a quick way to > delete a block of junk mail. > If there are only a few hundred messages messages, there is no problem. > But with more than that, Pine lags behind the keyboard. Again, not usually > a problem. If I over-run and there are a few good messages I can quickly > back up and undelete the good ones. > > I just had a situation (it's happened a few times before) where I've had > 5000 junk messages with blocks of hundreds of good ones interspersed. > The best thing, I guess, would for me to have written a better filter in > the first place, or to intelligently re-filter the folder after the fact. > > To cut a long story short (or not, as the case may be), I'd like the > "U" key to behave like the "D" key so that I can quickly undelete > deleted blocks of messages > > (BTW, anyone know of a post-filter program, preferably something that > will feed procmail or use procmail rules ?) > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RJ56OT031012 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:06 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 11:05:06 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RJ55mT011315; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:05:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RJ4Pqt014636; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 11:04:25 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RInaDN113742 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:49:37 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 10:49:36 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.bellhow.com (fw.bellhow.com [63.121.54.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RInZIe022830 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 10:49:35 -0800 Received: from wgs.apps1.bellhow.com (wgs.apps1.bellhow.com [192.168.70.70]) by mail.bellhow.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27612; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:49:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (herrick@localhost) by wgs.apps1.bellhow.com (8.8.4/8.8.3) with ESMTP id NAA21642; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:49:17 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:49:17 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: daniel lance herrick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: delete/undelete key behaviour In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Andrew Daviel X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: wgs.apps1.bellhow.com: herrick owned process doing -bs X-Sender: herrick@wgs.apps1.bellhow.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You can use formail, part of the procmail package, to separate a box into individual messages and then process them one by one, such as by feeding them into procmail (specifying a different .procmailrc on the command line or using the main one which has presumably just become smarter). (As they go by, formail is willing to mung the headers in interesting ways.) If "man procmail" works, so should "man formail". dan On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Andrew Daviel wrote: > > I seem to often be in the situation where a lot of mail in > a particular folder is junk, but there are some good ones (I filter into > multiple inboxes with procmail). For instance, spam folders, postmaster > folders and cron folders. > > So, holding down the "D" key in the index page is a quick way to > delete a block of junk mail. > If there are only a few hundred messages messages, there is no problem. > But with more than that, Pine lags behind the keyboard. Again, not usually > a problem. If I over-run and there are a few good messages I can quickly > back up and undelete the good ones. > > I just had a situation (it's happened a few times before) where I've had > 5000 junk messages with blocks of hundreds of good ones interspersed. > The best thing, I guess, would for me to have written a better filter in > the first place, or to intelligently re-filter the folder after the fact. > > To cut a long story short (or not, as the case may be), I'd like the > "U" key to behave like the "D" key so that I can quickly undelete > deleted blocks of messages > > (BTW, anyone know of a post-filter program, preferably something that > will feed procmail or use procmail rules ?) > > -- > Andrew Daviel, TRIUMF, Canada > Tel. +1 (604) 222-7376 > security@triumf.ca > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:44:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RLimOT005482 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:44:48 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 13:44:47 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RLilPs022728; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:44:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RLhZqt023152; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:43:35 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RLgJDN017868 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:42:19 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 13:42:18 2002 -0800 Received: from carbon (carbon.btinternet.com [194.73.73.92]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RLgHIe030957 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 13:42:18 -0800 Received: from host213-1-178-64.btinternet.com ([213.1.178.64]) by carbon with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16qLBQ-0001fb-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:42:16 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 21:47:48 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Hatton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Alternate Editor MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: dan@bib X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm trying to use emacs with auto-fill-mode as my alternate editor in Pine. This means that I need to put "-f auto-fill-mode" on the command line after the name of the file emacs is supposed to open. Does the editor variable have some equivalent of the url-viewers variable's _URL_, which I can use to specify where the filename goes. Thanks Dan Hatton -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:05:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RM5VOT006645 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:05:31 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 14:05:30 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RM5UPs023604; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:05:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RM4lqt012558; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:04:47 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2RM3dDN017672 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:03:40 -0800 Received: FROM mxu4.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Mar 27 14:03:39 2002 -0800 Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.76]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2RM3cIe003877 for ; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 14:03:39 -0800 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA01321; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:03:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (MANAWATU-MAIL-CENTRE.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.71]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA04109; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 17:00:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73]) by manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA03526; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:53:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jmorzins@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15129; Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:53:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 16:53:47 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacob Morzinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Alternate Editor In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dan Hatton X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Dan Hatton wrote: > I'm trying to use emacs with auto-fill-mode as my alternate editor in > Pine. This means that I need to put "-f auto-fill-mode" on the > command line after the name of the file emacs is supposed to open. There's another way to do it. Pine's composition buffers are saved with a name matching the regexp "pico.[0-9]+". I put two commands in my .emacs file: the first tells emacs to use text-mode when editing pine's composition buffers, and the second causes all text-mode buffers to enable auto-fill mode. ;;; Use text-mode for pine composition buffers. (setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("pico.[0-9]+$" . text-mode) auto-mode-alist)) ;;; Buffers in text-mode should have auto-fill-mode set. (defun jm-text-mode-funcs () "Functions useful in text-mode-hook." (auto-fill-mode 1)) (add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'jm-text-mode-funcs) From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:27:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SBRWOT025460 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:27:32 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 03:27:31 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SBRVPs010045; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:27:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SBQjR8014640; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:26:45 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SBOWDN118572 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:24:33 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 03:24:31 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SBOQc6022963 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 03:24:28 -0800 Received: from caladium.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [10.17.0.26]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA24044 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:24:23 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (piotr@localhost) by caladium.sonytel.be (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2SBOMU20147 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:24:22 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 12:24:22 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Murphy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: URL Viewing In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: caladium.sonytel.be: piotr owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: piotr@caladium.sonytel.be X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mark Montague wrote: >On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Murphy wrote: > >> For the IE I didn't try because there is no IE under Unix. :) > >Well, there's no IE for the majority of flavors of Unix, but >IE does exist for Solaris and HP-UX machines: > > http://www.microsoft.com/unix/ie I know this, but it is not installed in my environment, then I don't know how to use it from Pine. Regards, Murphy -- __ __ || || -++- -++- -------------------------------------------------------- ||\ /|| e-mail: murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl GG 107745 || || Everything is possible - this is only a question of time \/564\/ -------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:13:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SFD2OT030727 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:13:02 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 07:13:02 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SFD1mT008805; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:13:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SFBMqt005086; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:11:22 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SFAEDN024140 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:10:14 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 07:10:14 2002 -0800 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SFADZB008370 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:10:13 -0800 Received: from skat.usc.edu (root@skat.usc.edu [128.125.253.131]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id HAA29649; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from cohiba (cohiba.usc.edu [128.125.10.160]) by skat.usc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/usc) with ESMTP id g2SFADl28434; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:10:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:11:08 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Michael D. Walker" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Alternate Editor In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: walker@usc.edu X-To: Jacob Morzinski X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Dan Hatton wrote: >> I'm trying to use emacs with auto-fill-mode as my alternate editor in >> Pine. This means that I need to put "-f auto-fill-mode" on the >> command line after the name of the file emacs is supposed to open. > > >There's another way to do it. Pine's composition buffers are >saved with a name matching the regexp "pico.[0-9]+". I put two >commands in my .emacs file: the first tells emacs to use >text-mode when editing pine's composition buffers, and the second >causes all text-mode buffers to enable auto-fill mode. > > >;;; Use text-mode for pine composition buffers. >(setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("pico.[0-9]+$" . text-mode) auto-mode-alist)) > >;;; Buffers in text-mode should have auto-fill-mode set. >(defun jm-text-mode-funcs () > "Functions useful in text-mode-hook." > (auto-fill-mode 1)) >(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'jm-text-mode-funcs) Any luck using this with PC Pine? From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:23:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SFNqOT030975 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:23:52 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 07:23:51 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SFNpPs014641; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:23:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SFMrlZ017924; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:22:54 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SFMEDN014618 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:22:14 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 07:22:13 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SFMCre029175 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:22:13 -0800 Received: from caladium.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [10.17.0.26]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA13051 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:22:11 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (piotr@localhost) by caladium.sonytel.be (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2SFMAM22263 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:22:10 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:22:10 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Murphy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How to change the "Content-Transfer-Encoding"? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: caladium.sonytel.be: piotr owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: piotr@caladium.sonytel.be X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, The problem is that somebody of the people who receive my emails complain that I shouldn't use the "Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE" method for encoding the content of my emails because the OEv6 can't handle the emails quotes and this person had to put the quote signs manually. When I send any email using non special international characters, the Pine automatically takes the "charset=US-ASCII". If there are some international characters, then the Pine takes: charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE And there is no way to change the encoding method into a 8bit like this: charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Any ideas how to do this? Regards, Murphy -- __ __ || || -++- -++- -------------------------------------------------------- ||\ /|| e-mail: murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl GG 107745 || || Everything is possible - this is only a question of time \/564\/ -------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:22:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SGM8OT032611 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:22:08 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 08:22:06 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SGM6mT010674; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:22:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SGLTR8033532; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:21:29 -0800 Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SGKUDN017606 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:20:31 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 08:20:29 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SGKRZB020314 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:20:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2SGKPI22116; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:20:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020328171311.T10718-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:20:25 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to change the "Content-Transfer-Encoding"? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Murphy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 28, 2002, 16:22 (+0100) Murphy wrote: > The problem is that somebody of the people who receive my emails > complain that I shouldn't use the > > =09"Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE" > > method for encoding the content of my emails because the OEv6 can't > handle the emails quotes and this person had to put the quote signs > manually. What are "email quotes"? In any case, OEv6 seems to be broken... > When I send any email using non special international characters, the > Pine automatically takes the "charset=3DUS-ASCII". If there are some > international characters, then the Pine takes: > > =09charset=3Diso-8859-2 > =09Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > > And there is no way to change the encoding method into a 8bit like this: > > =09charset=3D"iso-8859-2" > =09Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Or Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit to be correct. 8bit characters is only OK if the sending and receiving MTA's can correctly handle 8bit charachters. If you use sendmail, you can have it convert between 8bit and quoted-printable, and only use quoted-printable when needed. You can try the following setting [x] enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation to see if it helps. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:33:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SGXmOT000515 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:33:48 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 08:33:47 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SGXlmT011065; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:33:47 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SGX8R8034756; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:33:09 -0800 Received: from mailscan5.cac.washington.edu (mailscan5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SGVnDN174714 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:31:49 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan5.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 08:31:48 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SGVkre009703 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:31:47 -0800 Received: from caladium.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [10.17.0.26]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA20387 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:31:46 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (piotr@localhost) by caladium.sonytel.be (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2SGVjt23026 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:31:45 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:31:45 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Murphy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to change the "Content-Transfer-Encoding"? In-Reply-To: <20020328171311.T10718-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: caladium.sonytel.be: piotr owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: piotr@caladium.sonytel.be X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Mats Dufberg wrote: >What are "email quotes"? In any case, OEv6 seems to be broken... OE is broken anyway. ;) I have no chance to check it because I have no OE installed. >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-2 >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >to be correct. OK, but where to set this in the Pine to force it for such encoding type? In the normal settings there are no way to put such thing, and also just creating a rule with such header doesn't seems to work. >8bit characters is only OK if the sending and receiving MTA's can >correctly handle 8bit characters. If you use sendmail, you can have it >convert between 8bit and quoted-printable, and only use quoted-printable >when needed. You can try the following setting > >[x] enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation > >to see if it helps. This option is always turned like this - no effect, the mails are always contain the "Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE" field in the header (I checked the send-mail folder for that). It looks like there is no way to negotiate the 8bit way of encoding for the ISO-8859-2 font set. :( Regards, Murphy -- __ __ || || -++- -++- -------------------------------------------------------- ||\ /|| e-mail: murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl GG 107745 || || Everything is possible - this is only a question of time \/564\/ -------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:56:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SHuwOT003455 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:56:58 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 09:56:57 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SHuuPs019382; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:56:57 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SHu9qt023274; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:56:10 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SHscDN106234 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:54:38 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 09:54:37 2002 -0800 Received: from rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (rwcrmhc52.attbi.com [216.148.227.88]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SHsbZB009003 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:54:37 -0800 Received: from 12-235-26-15.client.attbi.com ([12.235.26.15]) by rwcrmhc52.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020328175437.EBQH1147.rwcrmhc52.attbi.com@12-235-26-15.client.attbi.com> for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:54:37 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 10:00:42 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jason Tiller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Alternate Editor In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jtiller@www.fastmail.fm X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Michael, :) On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Michael D. Walker wrote: > >On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Dan Hatton wrote: > >There's another way to do it. Pine's composition buffers are saved > >with a name matching the regexp "pico.[0-9]+". I put two commands > >in my .emacs file: the first tells emacs to use text-mode when > >editing pine's composition buffers, and the second causes all > >text-mode buffers to enable auto-fill mode. > >;;; Use text-mode for pine composition buffers. > >(setq auto-mode-alist (cons '("pico.[0-9]+$" . text-mode) auto-mode-alist)) > > > >;;; Buffers in text-mode should have auto-fill-mode set. > >(defun jm-text-mode-funcs () > > "Functions useful in text-mode-hook." > > (auto-fill-mode 1)) > >(add-hook 'text-mode-hook 'jm-text-mode-funcs) > Any luck using this with PC Pine? I use PC-Pine and had worked out a rather convoluted process for enabling auto-fill in my PC-Pine editing buffers (using 'gnudoit' from the gnuserv package). After reading Dan's note, however, I immediately switched over to this simpler, more obvious style! And, yes, I got it to work. >From what I can tell, PC-Pine uses a temp file of this format: "aeNNNNNN.txt" So, you should be able to use Dan's stuff straight out of the box if you change the filename match expression from "pico..." to "ae[0-9]+\\.txt". It worked for me on the first try, a major accomplishment for this elisp newbie. :) Thanks, Dan! ---Jason Sonos Handbell Ensemble http://www.sonos.org/ P.S. - I noticed that Emacs' default auto-mode-alist includes a match expression for "\\.te?xt", so you might not even need the '(setq auto-mode...' command. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:14:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SNEGOT016269 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:14:16 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 15:14:15 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SNEFPs031973; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:14:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SNDRR8035484; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:13:27 -0800 Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2SNAQDN178720 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:11:30 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 15:10:25 2002 -0800 Received: from gadolinium.btinternet.com (gadolinium.btinternet.com [194.73.73.111]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2SNAOZB015907 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 15:10:25 -0800 Received: from in-addr.btopenworld.com ([62.6.77.79]) by gadolinium.btinternet.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #8) id 16qj2F-0004On-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:10:24 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 23:15:58 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Hatton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Alternate Editor In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: dan@bib X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for all the praise, but it was Jacob's idea, not mine. Dan On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Jason Tiller wrote: > It worked for me on the first try, a major accomplishment for this > elisp newbie. :) Thanks, Dan! From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:56:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2T2uVOT021735 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:56:31 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 18:56:30 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2T2uUmT031308; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:56:30 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2T2tqlZ012398; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:55:52 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2T2scDN043982 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:54:38 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Mar 28 18:54:37 2002 -0800 Received: from starship.alienwebshop.com (starship.alienwebshop.com [209.58.150.193]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2T2sbre016834 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 18:54:37 -0800 Received: by starship.alienwebshop.com (Postfix, from userid 1007) id B0476BA4B; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:54:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starship.alienwebshop.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE0073E60 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:54:36 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <20020328215130.M71160-100000@starship.alienwebshop.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 21:54:36 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Lukas Karlsson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: (Background) Colors in Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: karlsson@starship.alienwebshop.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I tried to send this once already, but I wasn't subscribed to the list. So, this is my second try... --- Is there a way to change the foreground color for objects in pine without also having to set a background color? I'm using pine on FreeBSD, connecting from a Mac OS X box running Terminal. The behavior I've been experiencing is: 1) In order for things to look okay in color mode, I have to set the background color of my terminal application to the same color as most of the background colors in pine or else everything looks weird. 2) If I use transparent terminal windows, the parts of the screen that are drawn with text are not transparent. Instead, they are a solid background color. 3) When I select text with the mouse, to paste into another application, for example, the parts of the screen that have text do not change at all from my highlighting. They remain the same foreground and background color as they were, making it very hard to distinguish what I selected. For those not familiar with Terminal, this is a standard terminal application, not an xterm. My terminal type is set to vt100 on both the Mac and on the FreeBSD box that I am sshing to and then running pine. I don't know if the problem that I'm experiencing is specifically something wrong with pine. However, I do know that I don't experience the same behavior in my shell on either machine using GNU ls with colors. I am making the assumption that if you could set the foreground color in pine without also having to specify a new background color (just taking what the background of the terminal window is) that I would not be having this problem. I am also making the assumption that the methods used by pine and GNU ls to display colors are similar enough that they can be compared in this way. If anyone has anything that might help me, I'd love to hear about it. I'd also be interested to hear if anyone else experiences this. It is hard to find someone with the same setup I have who also uses pine and also uses colors. One last thing... if you don't include the things I mentioned above (selecting text and using transparent windows), if I have the colors setup so the background color of my window matches the default background color setting in pine, I have no other display issues. I mention this because I saw a bunch of people talking about color display issues on FreeBSD, and I'm not having any of those same issues. Thanks in advance for any advice. /l ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lukas Karlsson karlsson@panix.com Cambridge, MA http://lukwam.com/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:07:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TG7VOT006138 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:07:31 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 08:07:26 2002 -0800 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TG7QPs019126; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:07:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TG6jqt005340; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:06:45 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TG5LDN146020 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:05:21 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 08:05:20 2002 -0800 Received: from mail.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TG5Ire010082 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:05:19 -0800 Received: from caladium.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [10.17.0.26]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id RAA15253 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:05:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (piotr@localhost) by caladium.sonytel.be (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2TG5Gp00369 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:05:16 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:05:16 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Murphy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Problem with a 8 bit SMTP negotiation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: NEWS - Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: caladium.sonytel.be: piotr owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: piotr@caladium.sonytel.be X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I have set the [X] enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation and I know that the SMTP server which is used to send a e-mail is able to use 8bit. I checked it using a command line way from a shell: =09echo "=B1=E6=B1=E6=B1" | mailx piotr I got an email like this: Return-Path: Received: from caladium.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [10.17.0.27]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA13963 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:46:47 +0100 (MET= ) Received: (from piotr@localhost) by caladium.sonytel.be (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g2TFkl100015 for piotr; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:46:47 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:46:47 +0100 (MET) From: Piotr Martyniuk Message-Id: <200203291546.g2TFkl100015@caladium.sonytel.be> To: piotr@caladium.sonytel.be =B1=E6=B1=E6=B1 When I'm using the Pine 4.40 for this same type of e-mail, the Pina can't negotiate 8bit and always use the QUOTED-PRINTABLE method to send this message: Return-Path: Received: from caladium.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [10.17.0.26]) by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id OAA05334 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:46:17 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost (piotr@localhost) by caladium.sonytel.be (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g2TDkG028= 186 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:46:16 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: caladium.sonytel.be: piotr owned process doing = -bs Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 14:46:16 +0100 (MET) From: Piotr Martyniuk X-X-Sender: piotr@caladium.sonytel.be To: Piotr Martyniuk Subject: ufyf Message-ID: X-Message-Flag: For the Outlook the PIM means Poorly Implemented Mailer! X-Accepted-File-Formats: ASCII .rtf .ps .html - *NO* MS Office files plea= se. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3Diso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE =B1=E6=EA=B6 The problem is that some of my recipients can't handle correctly the e-mails were they contain a QUOTED-PRINTABLE encoded content. From my possition I have no idea how to force a Pine to use 8bit explicitly, or use the external program for sending the emails. I found only the "sending filters" which are not designed for such tasks. Is there a chance to send a text content with other set of chars using 8bit encoding method? Regards, Murphy --=20 __ __ || || -++- -++- -------------------------------------------------------- ||\ /|| e-mail: murphy@pulstar.albedo.art.pl GG 107745 || || Everything is possible - this is only a question of time \/564\/ -------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:33:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TGXHOT006827 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:33:17 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 08:33:16 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TGXFmT013310; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:33:15 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TGWKR8045314; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:32:20 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TGV6DN113854 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:31:07 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 08:31:06 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TGV4c6015295 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 08:31:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2TGV3824193; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:31:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020329172211.Y10718-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 17:31:03 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem with a 8 bit SMTP negotiation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Murphy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 29, 2002, 17:05 (+0100) Murphy wrote: > I have set the [X] enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation and I know that the > SMTP server which is used to send a e-mail is able to use 8bit. I > checked it using a command line way from a shell: > > =09echo "=B1=E6=B1=E6=B1" | mailx piotr > > I got an email like this: > > Return-Path: > Received: from caladium.sonytel.be (mail.sonytel.be [10.17.0.27]) > by mail.sonytel.be (8.9.0/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA13963 > for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:46:47 +0100 (M= ET) > Received: (from piotr@localhost) > by caladium.sonytel.be (8.10.2+Sun/8.9.3) id g2TFkl100015 > for piotr; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:46:47 +0100 (MET) > Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 16:46:47 +0100 (MET) > From: Piotr Martyniuk > Message-Id: <200203291546.g2TFkl100015@caladium.sonytel.be> > To: piotr@caladium.sonytel.be > > =B1=E6=B1=E6=B1 What mailx and your server does is to let the 8 bit codes pass without any character set information (that is, they are not characters, just code points). Note that there is no MIME version information. That mail is against the mail protcol, because the only legal way to send mail with other character sets than ASCII is to send them according to the MIME protocol (which permits 8 bit code points). > When I'm using the Pine 4.40 for this same type of e-mail, the Pina > can't negotiate 8bit and always use the QUOTED-PRINTABLE method to send > this message: No, I do not think that is a correct interpretation. My guess is that the SMTP server does not signal that it is prepared to accept 8 bit code points according to the ESMTP extentions of SMTP. > MIME-Version: 1.0 Must exist in a mail according to the MIME protocol, which is the only legal way to send anything but ASCII characters. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:10:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan2.cac.washington.edu (mailscan2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.16]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TIAKOT010136 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:10:20 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan2.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 10:10:19 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TIAJmT016588; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:10:19 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TI9WR8045424; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:09:33 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TI82DN118542 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:08:02 -0800 Received: FROM mxu2.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 10:08:01 2002 -0800 Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.76]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TI81ZB006018 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:08:01 -0800 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA11793 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:08:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (MANAWATU-MAIL-CENTRE.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.71]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA24647 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73]) by manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA11450 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jmorzins@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11078; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:07:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:07:56 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacob Morzinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem with a 8 bit SMTP negotiation In-Reply-To: <20020329172211.Y10718-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Mats Dufberg wrote: > No, I do not think that is a correct interpretation. My guess is that the > SMTP server does not signal that it is prepared to accept 8 bit code > points according to the ESMTP extentions of SMTP. I looked into this only far enough to see that mail.sonytel.be does in fact give a 250 "8BITMIME" answer in response to an EHLO verb; that response suggests that the server *is* prepared to do 8-bit communication. Perhaps you could run pine with a high level of debugging output, and examine the debug log to see what pine does when it sends mail. If I run "pine -d 7", my log (~/.pine-debug1) has lines of the form: IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: EHLO localhost [...] IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: 250-8BITMIME [...] IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: MAIL FROM: IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: 250 ... Sender ok IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: RCPT TO: IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: 250 ... Recipient ok IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: DATA For comparison, rfc1652 specifies that an 8BITMIME communication needs to specify "BODY=8BITMIME" with the MAIL FROM command: C: EHLO ymir.claremont.edu S: 250-dbc.mtview.ca.us says hello S: 250 8BITMIME C: MAIL FROM: BODY=8BITMIME S: 250 ... Sender and 8BITMIME ok C: RCPT TO: S: 250 ... Recipient ok C: DATA From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:22:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TIMLOT010705 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:22:21 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 10:22:20 2002 -0800 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TIMKPs023350; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:22:20 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TIKclZ012530; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:20:38 -0800 Received: from mailscan1.cac.washington.edu (mailscan1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.16]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TIJiDN118782 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:19:44 -0800 Received: FROM mxu3.u.washington.edu BY mailscan1.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 10:19:43 2002 -0800 Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TIJhre005060 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 10:19:43 -0800 Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.72]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA17587 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (MANAWATU-MAIL-CENTRE.MIT.EDU [18.7.7.71]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA11646 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73]) by manawatu-mail-centre.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA11923 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:19:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jmorzins@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11311; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:19:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:19:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacob Morzinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem with a 8 bit SMTP negotiation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Jacob Morzinski wrote: > IMAP DEBUG 12:59:27 3/29: MAIL FROM: I should clarify that I performed this test with the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation feature turned off. If I turn it on and send myself mail, my debuglevel 7 log shows IMAP DEBUG 13:14:49 3/29: MAIL FROM: BODY=8BITMIME and the mail arrives with headers: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT -- Jacob Morzinski jmorzins@mit.edu From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:03:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TL3sOT016413 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:03:54 -0800 Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 13:03:53 2002 -0800 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TL3rmT022044; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:03:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TL2iR8018732; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:02:45 -0800 Received: from mailscan6.cac.washington.edu (mailscan6.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.14]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TL1aDN016472 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:01:36 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan6.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 13:01:36 2002 -0800 Received: from inferno.localhost (147.Red-80-32-89.pooles.rima-tde.net [80.32.89.147]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TL1Yc6011763 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 13:01:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (devils@localhost) by inferno.localhost (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with ESMTP id g2TL1UZ02013 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:01:31 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:01:30 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Devil's Claw" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine IMAP authentication MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine List X-Authentication-Warning: inferno.localhost: devils owned process doing -bs X-Sender: devils@inferno.localhost X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, When I run pine I have to write my password to connect an IMAP server. I use {server_name/user=username}/path_to_inbox. I don't want to write the password any time that I run pine. What I have to do? Thanks. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:02:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mailscan3.cac.washington.edu (mailscan3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.15]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TN25OT020627 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:02:05 -0800 Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY mailscan3.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 15:02:04 2002 -0800 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TN24Ps031951; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:02:04 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TN1Eeo032438; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:01:15 -0800 Received: from mailscan4.cac.washington.edu (mailscan4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.15]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with SMTP id g2TN07DN079360 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:00:07 -0800 Received: FROM mxu1.u.washington.edu BY mailscan4.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Mar 29 15:00:07 2002 -0800 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW01.12/8.12.1+UW02.01) with ESMTP id g2TN05c6006312 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:00:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (dufberg@localhost) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g2TN07C24588 for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:00:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20020329235334.H10718-100000@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 00:00:07 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem with a 8 bit SMTP negotiation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 29, 2002, 13:07 (-0500) Jacob Morzinski wrote: > On Fri, 29 Mar 2002, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > No, I do not think that is a correct interpretation. My guess is that t= he > > SMTP server does not signal that it is prepared to accept 8 bit code > > points according to the ESMTP extentions of SMTP. > > I looked into this only far enough to see that mail.sonytel.be > does in fact give a 250 "8BITMIME" answer in response to an EHLO > verb; that response suggests that the server *is* prepared to do > 8-bit communication. I came to the same conclusion, but since Murphy did not get any 8 bit connection through I thought that it be that did not use the same SMTP server on the inside of his firewall. The SMTP server on mail.sonytel.be [193.74.243.200] signals 8BITMIME. What about 10.17.0.26 and 10.17.0.27? 10.17.0.27 seems to be the inside of 193.74.243.200, but maybe it isn't so? Murphy! Can you connect to 193.74.243.200? Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg dufberg@narnia.pp.se Bl=E5arvsgr=E4nd 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 V=E4llingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588