From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 1 06:15:58 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:15:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51DFvD17517 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 01 06:15:55 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51DFtu12354; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:15:55 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51DFVH28088; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:15:31 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51DDf0113070 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:13:41 -0700 Received: from newman.cs.purdue.edu (IDENT:0@newman.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.6]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51DDeX03179 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 06:13:40 -0700 Received: from lore.cs.purdue.edu (IDENT:1301@lore.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.2.16]) by newman.cs.purdue.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3/PURDUE_CS-2.0) with ESMTP id f51DDe528636 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:13:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 08:13:39 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daniel Kim To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: The ">From" filter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-PGP-Fingerprint: E3 D6 3B 3E 34 E6 0D F9 51 CF 32 5F B0 7E 6B A6 25 8C AB 53 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I realized that Pine filters sentences starting with "From" and adds the ">" leadin to that line. (eg. I did not type the ">" before From in the following sentence) >From the inventor of Perl, Larry Wall provides a unique perspective on the evolution of Perl and its future direction. Is there a way to disable this feature? --dk -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 1 09:03:00 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51G2rD02727 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:02:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 01 09:02:49 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51G2iu16934; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:02:44 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51G2BE15690; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:02:12 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51G0b028432 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:00:37 -0700 Received: from mailhost.iitb.ac.in (mailhost.iitb.ac.in [203.197.74.142]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51G0ZF30406 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:00:36 -0700 Received: (qmail 23062 invoked from network); 1 Jun 2001 15:52:59 -0000 Received: from jeeves.cse.iitb.ernet.in (HELO jeeves.cse.iitb.ac.in) (root@144.16.111.15) by mailhost.iitb.ac.in with SMTP; 1 Jun 2001 15:52:59 -0000 Received: from chandra.cse.iitb.ernet.in (chandra.cse.iitb.ernet.in [144.16.111.7]) by jeeves.cse.iitb.ac.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f51G0KL17954 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:30:20 +0530 Received: from localhost (raja@localhost) by chandra.cse.iitb.ernet.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA12659 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:30:37 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:30:37 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: V V Raja Rao To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: folders with new mails MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hai, I am using pine 4.33. Is it possible to configure pine such that the folders containing new mails will be highlighted as soon as I open pine?(as in Yahoo, as soon as you login the folders containing new mails will be highlighted) Thanks in advance, Raja. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 238,Hostel-1, IIT,Powai Mumbai-76 091-022-5721017,5720093 http://www.cse.iitb.ac.in/~raja -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 1 09:25:46 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51GPiD03961 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:25:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 01 09:25:42 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51GPgu17709; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:25:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51GPKE22526; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:25:20 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51GO3058802 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:24:03 -0700 Received: from blkbox.com (swhatley@blkbox.com [206.109.97.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51GO3K09145 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 09:24:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (swhatley@localhost) by blkbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id LAA15661; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:23:52 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:23:52 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steven Whatley To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: folders with new mails In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: V V Raja Rao X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, V V Raja Rao wrote: > I am using pine 4.33. Is it possible to configure pine such that the > folders containing new mails will be highlighted as soon as I open > pine?(as in Yahoo, as soon as you login the folders containing new mails > will be highlighted) I don't know how to do that but I got a script called newmail.sh that gets called when I login. newmail.sh: #!/bin/ksh # # Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:11:38 -0600 (CST) # From: Mike Miller # To: Pine Discussion Forum # Subject: incoming folders (was Re: Ok, here I go again!) # if [ `wc /var/mail/swhatley | awk '{print $1}'` == 0 ]; then echo "" echo "No mail in Inbox" else echo "" egrep '^From ' /usr/mail/swhatley | wc | awk '{print "Listing of "$1" messages in your inbox:"}' echo "" for item in `egrep -n '^From ' /usr/mail/swhatley | awk -F: '{print $1}'`; do tail +$item /var/mail/swhatley | egrep '^From: ' | head -1 tail +$item /var/mail/swhatley | egrep '^From: |^Subject: ' | tail +2 | head -1 | egrep -v '^From: ' echo "" done fi echo "" echo "Messages in other inboxes:" echo "" for file in `ls -1 ~/Mail/.Incoming/IN.* | grep -v lock | awk -F. '{print $NF}'`; do echo "IN.$file `egrep '^From ' ~/Mail/.Incoming/IN.$file | wc`" | awk '{print $2"\t"$1}' | grep -v ^0\ done echo "" # end This script shows me the the "From:" and "Subject:" for new mails. And it shows me how many new messages that I have in my various IN.* files. I hope this helps, Steven From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 1 10:11:37 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51HBZD07010 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 01 10:11:34 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51HBYC17879; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:11:34 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51HB3H33428; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:11:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51HA9073324 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:10:09 -0700 Received: from server5.safepages.com (server5.safepages.com [216.127.146.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51HA8s07509 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:10:08 -0700 Received: from mohnkern (washdc-208-186-26-13.safepages.com [208.186.26.13]) by server5.safepages.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5D9272AB48 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 17:06:48 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <036f01c0eabd$3774e4a0$cecafea9@mohnkern> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:05:55 -0400 Reply-To: "Scott Mohnkern" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Scott Mohnkern" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Fw: Pine 4.33 for Solaris 5.6? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Does anyone have a copy of a compiled pine 4.33 for Solaris 5.6? > > At the washington archive, they've got it for 5.8, but not 5.6. > > > Scott Mohnkern > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 1 10:43:49 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51HhlD19622 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:43:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 01 10:43:46 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51HhjC19178; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:43:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51HhSH15520; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:43:28 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51HgW078130 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:42:33 -0700 Received: from kamas.cs.utah.edu (kamas.cs.utah.edu [155.99.212.86]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51HgWK01567 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:42:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (newbold@localhost) by kamas.cs.utah.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f51HgPK41096; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:42:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from newbold@cs.utah.edu) Message-Id: <20010601114008.V41060-100000@kamas.cs.utah.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:42:25 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mac Newbold To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: The ">From" filter In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Kim X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: kamas.cs.utah.edu: newbold owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN And it came to pass that Today, at 8:13am, Daniel Kim said: >I realized that Pine filters sentences starting with "From" and adds the >">" leadin to that line. > >(eg. I did not type the ">" before From in the following sentence) > >>From the inventor of Perl, Larry Wall provides a unique perspective on >the evolution of Perl and its future direction. > >Is there a way to disable this feature? I don't think that is what you really want to do. If From appears at the beginning of a line, it will confuse some mail servers and readers, since it looks like the From header. The easiest workaround is to make sure that From doesn't appear on the left margin. I believe that even whitespace will do it. Mac -- Mac Newbold Univ. of Utah Computer Science Dept. newbold@cs.utah.edu http://www.cs.utah.edu/~newbold/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Fri Jun 1 11:15:53 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51IFmD23422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:15:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 01 11:15:46 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51IFkC20775; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:15:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f51IFRp26386; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:15:27 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51IEl0111358 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:14:47 -0700 Received: from fort-point-station.mit.edu (FORT-POINT-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.72.0.53]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f51IEkK11582 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 11:14:47 -0700 Received: from grand-central-station.mit.edu (GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.82]) by fort-point-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA01672; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by grand-central-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA07019; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:14:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA17309; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jmorzins@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20360; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 14:14:44 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacob Morzinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: The ">From" filter In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daniel Kim X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 1 Jun 2001, Daniel Kim wrote: > I realized that Pine filters sentences starting with "From" and adds the > ">" leadin to that line. [...] > Is there a way to disable this feature? You can use pine's Configuration screen to control how aggressive pine is about doing this. If you only ever read your mbox folder with pine, you can disable the feature save-will-quote-leading-froms. If you use programs other than pine to access your mbox, it would be a good idea to leave the feature enabled. Some programs split your mbox into messages at each point where a line begins with a >From followed by a space (like this line), and these programs will break messages in half if pine doesn't insert the leading ">". (Also, note that pine is not alone in putting ">" on the front of "From "-lines. The servers which handle the mail could be doing this before pine is even shown the message.) Jacob Morzinski jmorzins@mit.edu From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 4 06:38:29 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54DcRD03518 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 04 06:38:25 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54DcPC32371; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:38:25 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54DZ7E31826; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:35:07 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54DWo0109106 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:32:51 -0700 Received: from smtp.gospelcom.net (joppa.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54DWoK30317 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:32:50 -0700 Received: (qmail 17994 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2001 13:32:54 -0000 Received: from jabbok.gospelcom.net (HELO eden.gf.gospelcom.net) (204.253.132.4) by joppa.gospelcom.net with SMTP; 4 Jun 2001 13:32:54 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:32:53 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Joel Boonstra To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: folders with new mails In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: V V Raja Rao X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > I am using pine 4.33. Is it possible to configure pine such that the > folders containing new mails will be highlighted as soon as I open > pine?(as in Yahoo, as soon as you login the folders containing new mails > will be highlighted) There was another reply to this that may be more robust, but this seems to work as well, with no scripting involved. Make sure you have 'enable-aggregate-command-set' enabled in your configuration, then set your 'initial-keystroke-list' set to the following: l,;,p,u,z That will show you only the folders that have new mail. If you want to see all of them, with just the newmail folders highlighted, remove the 'z' from the end, i.e.: l,;,p,u That works for me, at least :) -- Joel Boonstra jboonstra@gospelcom.net From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 4 06:55:07 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:55:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54Dt5D12993 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:55:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 04 06:55:03 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54Dt3u01886; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:55:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54DpxX31584; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:51:59 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54DpH005798 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:51:17 -0700 Received: from mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca (kleefstr@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA [130.113.64.66]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54DpHK00534 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 06:51:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (kleefstr@localhost) by mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca with ESMTP id JAA20436 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:51:16 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jessie Kleefstra To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.33 Filters In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi I asked about this problem below but no one answered me. Is it because you don't know, it's a bug or is just a plain stupid question? We would really like to upgrade to 4.33 and use this filtering because it seem much easier for our Faculty, Staff and Students to use instead of Procmail. On Fri, 25 May 2001, Jessie Kleefstra wrote: > > I'm testing Pine 4.33 with Solaris 8. I have set up a simple filter but > receive an abort signal. Below is the example. Is it because the 'From > pattern' requires an '@' sign or a '.'? I couldn't find anything in the > documentation that specifically stated this. If so, which other patterns > require this as well? Thanks for your help. > > > Nickname = test > >From pattern = kleefstr > > (*) Specific > Folder List = INBOX > > (*) Move > to Folder = testing > > Commit changes ("Yes" replaces settings, "No" abandons changes)? y > Folder "testing" in doesn't exist. Create? y > > [Folder created] > > Problem detected: "Received abort signal". > Pine Exiting. > > ----- > Jessie Kleefstra E-Mail: kleefstr@mcmaster.ca > Sr. Consultant, Helpdesk Services Phone: (905) 525-9140 ext. 24357 > Computing & Information Services Fax: (905) 528-3773 > ABB-132 > McMaster University > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 4 09:05:37 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54G5ZD11106 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 04 09:05:34 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (root@list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54G5Xu05678; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:05:34 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54G5AH21714; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:05:10 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54G46005804 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:04:06 -0700 Received: from acc.haverford.edu (acc.haverford.edu [165.82.1.30]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54G45s28241 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:04:05 -0700 Received: from vasantha (ip27.acc.haverford.edu [165.82.120.27]) by acc.haverford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA10021 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 12:03:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010604120712.00819be0@haverford.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 12:07:12 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Vasantha Narayanan To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine.conf location Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: vnarayan@haverford.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, By default, pine assumes that the pine.conf file will be in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf. How do we make pine look at a different pine.conf file? I've a situation where I've to run two versions of pine. One that looks at /var/mail on the system itself and another which is a pop version that points to the popper. For both these pines to work simultaneously on the same system, I've to have each of these pine binaries refer to a different pine.conf file. I'm aware that the users can change their pinerc file themselves. But I want to globally control it so that if a user just types pine, it checks the local /var/mail. If they type, "pinepop" or some such, it points to the popper. To acheive this could someone please tell me what i need to change before I run a build for pine? Thanks much. Vasantha VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Vasantha Narayanan Networking and Systems email: vnarayan@haverford.edu Haverford College, PA Phone: 610-896-1110 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 4 13:25:48 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:25:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54KPkD18124 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:25:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 04 13:25:45 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54KPiu16197; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:25:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54KP9E09266; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:25:09 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54KM40109024 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:22:05 -0700 Received: from acc.haverford.edu (acc.haverford.edu [165.82.1.30]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54KM4K23776 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:22:04 -0700 Received: from vasantha (ip27.acc.haverford.edu [165.82.120.27]) by acc.haverford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA17325 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 16:21:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20010604162457.00820a70@haverford.edu> Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 16:24:57 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Vasantha Narayanan To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine.conf location In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010604120712.00819be0@haverford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: vnarayan@haverford.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Never mind my question. I was able to figure it out. For those who might be interested, the solution is to go to the osdep directory and find the appropriate os-whatever.h file and edit the definitions of SYSTEM_PINERC and the SYSTEM_PINERC_FIXED. You have to run a build after making the change. Vasantha At 12:07 PM 6/4/01 -0400, Vasantha Narayanan wrote: >Hi, > >By default, pine assumes that the pine.conf file will be in >/usr/local/lib/pine.conf. How do we make pine look at a different >pine.conf file? > >I've a situation where I've to run two versions of pine. One that looks at >/var/mail on the system itself and another which is a pop version that >points to the popper. For both these pines to work simultaneously on the >same system, I've to have each of these pine binaries refer to a different >pine.conf file. I'm aware that the users can change their pinerc file >themselves. But I want to globally control it so that if a user just types >pine, it checks the local /var/mail. If they type, "pinepop" or some such, >it points to the popper. To acheive this could someone please tell me what >i need to change before I run a build for pine? > >Thanks much. > >Vasantha > >VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV >Vasantha Narayanan >Networking and Systems email: vnarayan@haverford.edu >Haverford College, PA Phone: 610-896-1110 > > >-- >----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Vasantha Narayanan Networking and Systems email: vnarayan@haverford.edu Haverford College, PA Phone: 610-896-1110 From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Mon Jun 4 13:58:57 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54KwtD28360 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 04 13:58:53 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (root@list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54KwrC15632; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:58:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f54KwIp34894; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:58:19 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54KsT042470 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:54:29 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f54KsTX09503 for ; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:54:29 -0700 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f54KsRD02758; Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 13:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine.conf location In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010604120712.00819be0@haverford.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Vasantha Narayanan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Vasantha Narayanan (vnarayan@haverford.edu) wrote in the pine-info list...: :) I've a situation where I've to run two versions of pine. One that looks :) at /var/mail on the system itself and another which is a pop version :) that points to the popper. For both these pines to work simultaneously :) on the same system, I've to have each of these pine binaries refer to a :) different pine.conf file. I'm aware that the users can change their :) pinerc file themselves. But I want to globally control it so that if a :) user just types pine, it checks the local /var/mail. If they type, :) "pinepop" or some such, it points to the popper. To acheive this could :) someone please tell me what i need to change before I run a build for :) pine? Wouldn't it be easier to just define pine to be pine -inbox-path="/var/mail/$LOGNAME" and pinepop to be pine -inbox-path="{name.pop.server/pop3/user=$LOGNAME}" -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 5 18:46:22 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:46:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f561kKD24869 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:46:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jun 05 18:46:19 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (root@list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f561kIu04992; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:46:18 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f561jQE08736; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:45:26 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f561i5016920 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:44:05 -0700 Received: from usc.edu (root@usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f561i5s24807 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:44:05 -0700 Received: from skat.usc.edu (root@skat.usc.edu [128.125.253.131]) by usc.edu (8.9.3.1/8.9.3/usc) with ESMTP id SAA13638; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cohiba (cohiba.usc.edu [128.125.10.160]) by skat.usc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1/usc) with ESMTP id f561i3m28848; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:44:03 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Michael D. Walker" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine.conf location In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: walker@usc.edu X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 4 Jun 2001, Eduardo Chappa wrote: >*** Vasantha Narayanan (vnarayan@haverford.edu) wrote in the pine-info list...: > >:) I've a situation where I've to run two versions of pine. One that looks >:) at /var/mail on the system itself and another which is a pop version >:) that points to the popper. For both these pines to work simultaneously >:) on the same system, I've to have each of these pine binaries refer to a >:) different pine.conf file. I'm aware that the users can change their >:) pinerc file themselves. But I want to globally control it so that if a >:) user just types pine, it checks the local /var/mail. If they type, >:) "pinepop" or some such, it points to the popper. To acheive this could >:) someone please tell me what i need to change before I run a build for >:) pine? > >Wouldn't it be easier to just define pine to be > >pine -inbox-path="/var/mail/$LOGNAME" > >and pinepop to be > >pine -inbox-path="{name.pop.server/pop3/user=$LOGNAME}" and a PINEHOME environment variable for the pine.conf file and MAIL for the inbox itself. >-- >Eduardo >http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Tue Jun 5 19:02:31 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5622TD22402 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:02:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jun 05 19:02:27 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (root@list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5622QC02113; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:02:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f56227X34132; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:02:08 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5621O083752; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:01:24 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5621NX14252; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:01:23 -0700 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (lampin@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5621Nu05505; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 19:01:23 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 18:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: re: Marking message for deletion in POP3 In-Reply-To: <88256A63.0001BFFB.00@notes.centigram.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Sender: Mark Crispin X-To: manjula_hullatti@adc.com X-Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, c-client@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 5 Jun 2001 17:20:19 -0700, manjula_hullatti@adc.com wrote: > Could someone let me know how to mark messages for > deletion in POP3 ? I want to mark them deleted and expunge all > the deleted messages at once. There is no api in pop3.h of c-client > library for this. The only way to delete messages in the POP3 protocol is to issue DELE commands and then to issue a QUIT to confirm. If a QUIT is not issued, the POP3 server forgets about the DELE commands. Since the c-client API has the delete-expunge model with an undelete permitted prior to expunge, the way this is implemented in c-client is to set the \Deleted flag, then call mail_expunge() to send the DELE commands. At this point, you can no longer undelete and the messages become unavailable to c- client; however of course the true purge at the server happens at mail_close() time. Although this seems strange, it's the only way to get IMAP like behavior, which is what the c-client API tries to provide, from POP. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Wed Jun 6 19:11:41 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:11:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f572BcD14835 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:11:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jun 06 19:11:37 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f572Bau12936; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:11:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f572BCE29526; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:11:12 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5729T0106662 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:09:29 -0700 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5729TX29752 for ; Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:09:29 -0700 Received: (qmail 18395 invoked by uid 1828); 7 Jun 2001 02:09:28 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 19:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: not putting cursor back after a message is shown MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hmm, I didn't realize pine still printed out messages while I was in my external editor (vim).. But it does, and I was editing a message, and got a message about a message being filtered.. The cursor was left at the lower left of the screen, not where I was expecting to type. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 7 08:26:16 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:26:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57FQED05378 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:26:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 07 08:26:13 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57FQCu28870; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:26:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57FPnX11184; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:25:49 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57FOC006856 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:24:12 -0700 Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57FOBs20996 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:24:11 -0700 Received: from ulysses.homer.att.com ([135.205.193.8]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MSO-3.0) with ESMTP id f57FO3C20640 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:24:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from akiva.homer.att.com (akiva.homer.att.com [135.205.198.103]) by ulysses.homer.att.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09784 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:24:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from akiva.homer.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by akiva.homer.att.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10572 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:24:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106071524.LAA10572@akiva.homer.att.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:24:00 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "J. W. Ballantine" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine with mh style mail folders Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm trying to use pine with mh style folders, and I run into a brick wall on the inbox/INBOX issue. My mh folders include a folder named inbox (lc) where I keep my misc incoming mail. When I start pine in looks at INBOX and uses the system default as a file, ie no [/]. Is there someway to use/access my mh inbox inplace of/or in addition to the system default?? Thanks Jim -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 7 08:38:49 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:38:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57FclD26482 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 07 08:38:45 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57FcjC25912; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:38:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57FcJH10518; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:38:19 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57FbG0115770 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:37:16 -0700 Received: from pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.83]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57FbFs24587 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:37:15 -0700 Received: from central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (CENTRAL-CITY-CARRIER-STATION.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.75]) by pacific-carrier-annex.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA13029; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.7.21.86]) by central-city-carrier-station.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA09099; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from multics.mit.edu (MULTICS.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.73]) by melbourne-city-street.mit.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id LAA01125; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (jmorzins@localhost) by multics.mit.edu (8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA11079; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:37:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacob Morzinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine with mh style mail folders In-Reply-To: <200106071524.LAA10572@akiva.homer.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "J. W. Ballantine" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, J. W. Ballantine wrote: > Is there someway to use/access my mh inbox inplace of/or in addition to > the system default?? The special name #mh should direct pine into your MH folders. Try opening the folder #mh/inbox. -- Jacob Morzinski jmorzins@mit.edu From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 7 08:58:22 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:58:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57FwKD06762 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:58:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 07 08:58:19 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57FwIu30018; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:58:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57Fvrp27466; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:57:53 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57Frh039176 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:53:43 -0700 Received: from ckmso1.proxy.att.com (ckmso1.att.com [12.20.58.69]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57FrcF32108 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 08:53:38 -0700 Received: from ulysses.homer.att.com ([135.205.193.8]) by ckmso1.proxy.att.com (AT&T IPNS/MSO-3.0) with ESMTP id f57FqvC10116; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:52:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from akiva.homer.att.com (akiva.homer.att.com [135.205.198.103]) by ulysses.homer.att.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10198; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from akiva.homer.att.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by akiva.homer.att.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10650; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200106071552.LAA10650@akiva.homer.att.com> Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:52:55 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "J. W. Ballantine" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine with mh style mail folders In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 07 Jun 2001 11:37:12 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-To: Jacob Morzinski X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I would if I could, but the only inbox folder that shows up when I list folders is INBOX, there is no inbox[/]. ---------- In Response to your message ------------- > Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:37:12 -0400 (EDT) > To: "J. W. Ballantine" > From: Jacob Morzinski > Subject: Re: pine with mh style mail folders > > On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, J. W. Ballantine wrote: > > Is there someway to use/access my mh inbox inplace of/or in addition to > > the system default?? > > The special name #mh should direct pine into your MH folders. > Try opening the folder #mh/inbox. > > -- > Jacob Morzinski jmorzins@mit.edu > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 7 09:05:10 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:05:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57G58D14448 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:05:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 07 09:05:07 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57G56u30306; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:05:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57G4nH32966; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:04:49 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57G4I0127024 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:04:18 -0700 Received: from ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox.mot.com [129.188.136.101]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57G4HK28937 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:04:17 -0700 Received: [from pobox2.mot.com (pobox2.mot.com [136.182.15.8]) by ftpbox.mot.com (ftpbox 2.1) with ESMTP id JAA05511 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:04:17 -0700 (MST)] Received: [from pronto1.comm.mot.com (pronto1.comm.mot.com [173.6.1.22]) by pobox2.mot.com (MOT-pobox2 2.0) with ESMTP id JAA10507 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:04:16 -0700 (MST)] Received: from diablo3 (diablo3 [173.6.67.3]) by pronto1.comm.mot.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10146 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:04:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:04:13 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Changing "From" header MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am having a problem with Pine after changing my from address using Roles (this is the method which has been suggested here before). The address is changed correctly, but the copy of the mail stored in my sent messages is not recognized as being from me. Before changing the address, all mail in my sent messages folder would automatically display the "To" address and now it always shows the "From" address (my address). Both addresses are aliased to the same account, the new address is more readable and easy to remember so I prefer to have this as my From address. Is there any way I can have Pine recognize this as being sent mail and not received mail? I am using Pine 4.33 on a Unix system. Thanks -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 7 09:11:37 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57GBZD10115 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:11:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 07 09:11:34 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57GBUu30507; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:11:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57GBEE30014; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:11:14 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57GAF016468 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:10:15 -0700 Received: from zoo.uvm.edu (yak.uvm.edu [132.198.101.75]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57GAEK30691 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:10:14 -0700 Received: from elk.uvm.edu (elk.uvm.edu [132.198.101.63]) by zoo.uvm.edu (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f57GAEC102294; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:10:14 -0400 Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost) by elk.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA100500; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:10:13 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:10:13 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Changing "From" header In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: elk.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN 9.4 Why does my message index show From: instead of To:? http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/config.html#9.4 -- Aaron.Hawley@uvm.edu -> http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley __________________________________________ PINE 4.33 Mailer - www.washington.edu/pine From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Thu Jun 7 09:14:57 2001 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:14:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57GErD24008 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 07 09:14:51 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57GEpC27351; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:14:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57GEAE08932; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:14:11 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57GDX080514 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:13:33 -0700 Received: from smtp.gospelcom.net (joppa.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57GDXK31676 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:13:33 -0700 Received: (qmail 2825 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2001 16:13:32 -0000 Received: from jabbok.gospelcom.net (HELO eden.gf.gospelcom.net) (204.253.132.4) by joppa.gospelcom.net with SMTP; 7 Jun 2001 16:13:32 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 12:13:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Joel Boonstra To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Changing "From" header In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > I am having a problem with Pine after changing my from address using > Roles (this is the method which has been suggested here before). The > address is changed correctly, but the copy of the mail stored in my sent > messages is not recognized as being from me. Before changing the address, > all mail in my sent messages folder would automatically display the "To" > address and now it always shows the "From" address (my address). > > Both addresses are aliased to the same account, the new address is more > readable and easy to remember so I prefer to have this as my From address. > Is there any way I can have Pine recognize this as being sent mail and not > received mail? I am using Pine 4.33 on a Unix system. Sure, this is easy to do. Just add the new address (the one that your 'From' lines are set to) to the 'alt-addresses' section in the pine config. Those are additional addresses that pine recognizes as being yours. HTH! -- Joel Boonstra jboonstra@gospelcom.net From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57IB6D31540 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:11:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 07 11:11:04 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57IB4C32162; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:11:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57IAjp10424; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:10:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57I9k084400; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:09:46 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57I9gF11893; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:09:42 -0700 Received: from mis2.centigram.com ([199.35.49.130]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57I9fC32092; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:09:41 -0700 Received: from notes.centigram.com (notes.centigram.com [146.71.203.208]) by mis2.centigram.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA22019; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by notes.centigram.com(Lotus SMTP MTA Internal build v4.6.2 (651.2 6-10-1998)) id 88256A64.0064255F ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:13:51 -0700 Message-Id: <88256A64.006424CF.00@notes.centigram.com> Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:14:57 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: manjula_hullatti@adc.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: LOGIN in POP3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-To: c-client@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Lotus-FromDomain: CENTIGRAM X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, This is regarding login phase in POP3. After I do pop3_open, I need to login to the mailbox. For this I need to pass the USER and the PASS values. I understand that the pop3_auth() gets these values by calling mm_login() and passes those values thru pop3_send (stream,"USER",usr) and pop3_send (stream,"PASS",tmp) commands. In my program I just hardcoded these values in the mm_login function. My question is how do I pass/set these values(user name and passowrd) from my function so that its taken during pop3_auth for login. Thanks, Manjula -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:20:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57IKKD05311 for ; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:20:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 07 11:20:18 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57IKHu03489; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:20:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f57IK1E21284; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:20:01 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57IJ70105996; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:19:07 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57IJ6K07908; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:19:06 -0700 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (sra@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f57IJ6C32471; Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:19:06 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:16:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: re: LOGIN in POP3 In-Reply-To: <88256A64.006424CF.00@notes.centigram.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Sender: Mark Crispin X-To: manjula_hullatti@adc.com X-Cc: c-client@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It should suffice to hard code them in mm_login(). Note that c-client passes buffers, so you have to do something like strcpy (user,"fred"); strcpy (password,"sesame"); instead of user = "fred"; password = "sesame"; On Thu, 7 Jun 2001 11:14:57 -0700, manjula_hullatti@adc.com wrote: > This is regarding login phase in POP3. After I do pop3_open, > I need to login to the mailbox. For this I need to pass the USER > and the PASS values. I understand that the pop3_auth() gets these > values by calling mm_login() and passes those values thru > pop3_send (stream,"USER",usr) and pop3_send (stream,"PASS",tmp) > commands. In my program I just hardcoded these values in the mm_login > function. My question is how do I pass/set these values(user name and > passowrd) > from my function so that its taken during pop3_auth for login. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f588DKD08875 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 08 01:13:19 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f588DIC22233; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:13:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f588Cwp32078; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:12:59 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f588AQ016434 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:10:27 -0700 Received: from ws1-7.us4.outblaze.com (205-158-62-57.outblaze.com [205.158.62.57]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f588AQF29574 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 01:10:26 -0700 Received: (qmail 26046 invoked by uid 1001); 8 Jun 2001 08:10:23 -0000 Message-Id: <20010608081023.26045.qmail@iname.com> Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 16:10:23 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "bob -" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: how to change where inbox is? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hello can someone please tell me how to change where the incoming mail is stored. currently it is in /var/spool/mail/$USER, but i want to change it to /home/$USER/mail. thanks -- _______________________________________________ Get your free email from http://mymail.iname.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:59:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from claven.cac.washington.edu (claven.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f58FOaD07632 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 08:24:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY claven.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 08 03:21:13 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f58ALCu27975; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 03:21:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f58AKnE30058; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 03:20:49 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f58AJ8020464 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 03:19:09 -0700 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-meridian.redhat.com [199.183.24.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f58AJ8F11225 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 03:19:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f58AJ4m32665 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:19:04 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 06:19:04 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Bug in PINE with large messages? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a message in a folder that is 1.2Mb of raw text. Actually it is a mail folder from GNU mailman mailing list archive, I downloaded and plopped in my PINE dir. Instead of it appearing as a group of messages, it shows up as one 1.2Mb message. PINE lets me view it ok, but it says the folder is read only and will not let me delete the folder, the message, etc. There is nothing else reading/writing this file. It has the same ownership and permissions as all other mail folders, and other programs can read the file just fine. I loaded it in joe and added a single char and saved it no problem. gzipped file avail on request. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In the "nickname" portion of the address book, you can't include @ symbols.. Is there a way to disable that? I'd like to be able to put entries in for common address that I e-mail, that get sent to the wrong place.. like: friend@olddomain.com so when i put that in, it checks the address book, and finds that nickname, and maps it out to: Friend Erik "Security is a process, not a product." -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:39:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f58LdnD31557 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:39:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 08 14:39:48 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f58Ldlu16336; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:39:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f58LdQH15156; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:39:27 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f58LcY017774 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:38:34 -0700 Received: from hotmail.com (f114.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.114]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f58LcYF30839 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:38:34 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:38:31 -0700 Received: from 207.86.217.175 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 08 Jun 2001 21:38:30 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:38:30 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Jack Tripper" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Getting Mail Attachments From Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Originating-IP: [207.86.217.175] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Jun 2001 21:38:31.0082 (UTC) FILETIME=[5C81E8A0:01C0F063] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My CS class submits all of their C++ Coding assignments via email attachments and I have been trying to write a simple shell script or quick C hack to dump all of their attachments to a directory. I have perused through some of the pine source and I hope I don't offend anyone when I say it's pretty ugly. Is there an easy way to accomplish this task? Thanks A lot, -Rob _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f58LsmD26784 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:54:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 08 14:54:47 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f58Lsku16855; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:54:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f58LsTE21466; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:54:29 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f58Lru021066 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:53:56 -0700 Received: from wrath.cs.utah.edu (wrath.cs.utah.edu [155.99.198.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f58LrtF03136 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 14:53:55 -0700 Received: from kamas.cs.utah.edu (kamas.cs.utah.edu [155.99.212.86]) by wrath.cs.utah.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f58Lrsf17601; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:53:54 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (newbold@localhost) by kamas.cs.utah.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f58LrsY12399; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:53:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from newbold@cs.utah.edu) Message-Id: <20010608155240.Y10828-100000@kamas.cs.utah.edu> Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:53:54 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mac Newbold To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Getting Mail Attachments From Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jack Tripper X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: kamas.cs.utah.edu: newbold owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN And it came to pass that Today, at 5:38pm, Jack Tripper said: >My CS class submits all of their C++ Coding assignments via email >attachments and I have been trying to write a simple shell script or quick C >hack to dump all of their attachments to a directory. I have perused through >some of the pine source and I hope I don't offend anyone when I say it's >pretty ugly. Is there an easy way to accomplish this task? FreeBSD has a port available for a program called RipMIME that can do this. I've never used it, but here's what it claims: "RipMIME has been written with one sole purpose in mind, to extract the attached files out of a MIME encoded email package." You can probably find more info at: http://www.pldaniels.com/ripmime Hope that helps, Mac -- Mac Newbold Univ. of Utah Computer Science Dept. newbold@cs.utah.edu http://www.cs.utah.edu/~newbold/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f595cUD06808 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 08 22:38:29 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f595cSC23634; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:38:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f595Ztp33204; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:35:55 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f595YD0110988 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:34:13 -0700 Received: from devserv.devel.redhat.com (nat-pool-meridian.redhat.com [199.183.24.200]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f595YDF07506 for ; Fri, 8 Jun 2001 22:34:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (mharris@localhost) by devserv.devel.redhat.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f595YBl03172; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:34:11 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:34:11 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mike A. Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Getting Mail Attachments From Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jack Tripper X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 8 Jun 2001, Jack Tripper wrote: >Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 17:38:30 -0400 >From: Jack Tripper >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed >Subject: Getting Mail Attachments From Pine > >My CS class submits all of their C++ Coding assignments via email >attachments and I have been trying to write a simple shell script or quick C >hack to dump all of their attachments to a directory. I have perused through >some of the pine source and I hope I don't offend anyone when I say it's >pretty ugly. Is there an easy way to accomplish this task? procmail is what you need. Try: man procmail man procmailrc man procmailex man formail It is not easy reading if you're new to procmail and/or regular expressions, but the manpages list a mailing list that can help you, and it is quite good. You'll have to be careful when you use it to make sure that it isn't DoS'able or exploitable remotely. Check file attachment sizes, and avail disk space. Hope this helps, TTYL ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Latest XFree86 test RPMS: ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/testing From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:25:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f598P0D24401 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:25:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jun 09 01:24:58 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f598Oqu31171; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:24:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f598OXp25238; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:24:33 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f598MP020470 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:22:25 -0700 Received: from mail.dokom.net (root@mail.dokom.net [195.138.36.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f598MOK01482 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 01:22:24 -0700 Received: from flathead.burg.de (dialin.net10.dip183.dokom.de [195.253.10.183] (may be forged)) by mail.dokom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/DOKOM GmbH) with ESMTP id JAA02167 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 09:04:49 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 10:27:40 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: Ingo Krabbe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ingo Krabbe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Is that error known ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Point of execution: I postponed three messages since I wanted to send them all together over a dial out connection. Then I selected the postponed folder just to consume some (personal) time and left it again as I could not figure out what I wanted there but sending the messages. So I selected Compose again to send the messages now. When I press ^X to send the pine exits with an abort signal next comes the debug output: Debug output of the Pine program (debug=2 debug_imap=0). Version 4.33 Sat Jun 9 09:22:10 2001 [ ... ] ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- MAIL_CMD: going to folder/collection menu === folder_screen called ==== ---- FOLDER LISTER ---- About to open folder "postponed-msgs" inbox: "INBOX" expunge and close mail stream "/home/ingo/mail/Vim Develop" Opened folder "/home/ingo/mail/postponed-msgs" with 3 messages process_filter_patterns Sorting by Date ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- MAIL_CMD: going to folder/collection menu === folder_screen called ==== ---- FOLDER LISTER ---- ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- Want_to read: y (121) done. IMAP 10:04:36 6/9 mm_log babble: Expunged 1 messages === send called === about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Received abort signal ============================================================================= The message was lost !!! CU INGO -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:05:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5995YD24430 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jun 09 02:05:32 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5995VC27036; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:05:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5995EH35000; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:05:14 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5994N076840 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:04:23 -0700 Received: from relay.tatasteel.com ([202.140.158.50]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5994GX23829 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 02:04:20 -0700 Received: from SMTP agent by mail gateway Sat, 09 Jun 2001 14:35:51 --5-30 Received: from tubes.tatasteel.com ([131.0.0.22]) by relay.tatasteel.com (Lotus Domino Build v50.a_1) with ESMTP id 2001060914411583:77211 ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 14:41:15 +0530 Received: from csankar ([131.0.25.100]) by tubes.tatasteel.com (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.7) with SMTP id OAA57540 for ; Sat, 9 Jun 2001 14:35:42 +0100 Message-Id: <023001c0f0c3$c45a11e0$64190083@csankar> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2001 14:38:36 +0530 Reply-To: "Sankar Chakrabarti" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Sankar Chakrabarti" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_022D_01C0F0F1.DDF0BC20" X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on DIRSRV/TATA(Release 5.0a (Intl)|4 May 1999) at 09/06/2001 02:41:16 PM, Serialize by Router on DIRSRV/TATA(Release 5.0a (Intl)|4 May 1999) at 09/06/2001 02:41:33 PM, Serialize complete at 09/06/2001 02:41:33 PM X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_022D_01C0F0F1.DDF0BC20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How can I have in a single domain : 1. Lotus Notes server for some users 2. Pine Server for some - acting as receipient for all incoming = mails & gateway for outgoing mails from Pine users & Lotus Notes users. Regards, Sankar Chakrabarti IBM Global Services India (P) Ltd. Location : TISCO - Tubes Division Contact No : 9835117541,0657-227677/228798 Email : sankar@tubes.tatasteel.com ------=_NextPart_000_022D_01C0F0F1.DDF0BC20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1"
How can I have in a single domain = :
    1. Lotus Notes = server for some=20 users
    2. Pine Server for = some -=20 acting as receipient for all incoming mails & gateway for outgoing = mails=20 from Pine users & Lotus Notes users.
Regards,
Sankar Chakrabarti
IBM = Global=20 Services India (P) Ltd.
Location : TISCO - Tubes Division
Contact = No :=20 9835117541,0657-227677/228798
Email : sankar@tubes.tatasteel.com=
------=_NextPart_000_022D_01C0F0F1.DDF0BC20-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5AGNRD24305 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jun 10 09:23:25 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5AGNOu32283; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:23:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5AGMvE25176; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:22:58 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5AGKe041308 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:20:40 -0700 Received: from ns.shellworld.net (ns.shellworld.net [64.29.16.176]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5AGKds25590 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:20:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (ricklew@localhost) by ns.shellworld.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA12357 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2001 12:20:39 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 09:20:39 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rick Lewis To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine and lost messages on Unix shell In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN A friend accesses his messages in two ways: connecting to an IMAP server using PC-Pine and also connecting to his Unix shell and accessing his messages on the shell using Pine 4.33. (In Windows, he uses PC-Pine 4.33.) The problem is that when he uses PC-Pine, the messages he receives are no longer available to him when using the Unix shell. After he logs into the server, Unless deleted, they're displayed in PC-pine until he deletes them, and new messages are added to the index, but again inaccessible from the shell. At least on the accounts I use, I've never seen this behavior using either IMAP or POP. It's as if something happens in PC-Pine which hides the messages from view to Unix Pine, although that sounds silly. I thought it might have something to do with folder states, so had him uncheck quell-internal-folder-message in both Pine and PC-Pine, but the behavior still continues. Can anybody point me to either a solution to this problem, or some good places to check? Or might this be some mis-programming of IMAP on the provider's end? --Rick -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:33:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BB7wD20795 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 04:08:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 03:47:15 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BAlEu21400; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:47:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BAiAH09332; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:44:10 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BAd5021126 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:39:05 -0700 Received: from zeus.med.uottawa.ca (zeus.med.uottawa.ca [137.122.224.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BAd4s25392 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 03:39:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (nbirkett@localhost) by zeus.med.uottawa.ca (8.9.1/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA24632 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 06:36:54 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Nick Birkett (x8289)" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Nick Birkett (x8289)" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: New data and methods for Infection Transmission System Analysis (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/ALTERNATIVE; BOUNDARY="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0F1ED.88EB0260" Content-ID: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0F1ED.88EB0260 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-ID: THe message attached to this message isn't relevent to this group but it illustrates my problem/question. I received the message as a regular readable message (ie not as an attachement). However, when I try to forward it to another person, it gets convereted to an attachment. This is happening a lot lately. CAn anyone explain why and tell me if I can do anything at my end to make pine send out the message as a regular message rather than an attachment? Thanks. ======================================================================== Nicholas Birkett, M.D., M.Sc. Epidemiology and Community Medicine University of Ottawa nbirkett@zeus.med.uottawa.ca 451 Smyth Rd., (613)-562-5800 x 8289 (voice) Ottawa, Ontario, (613)-562-5465 (fax) Canada. K1H 8M5 ========================================================================= ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 20:40:07 -0400 From: James Koopman To: Mark Becker , Brian Burt , Don Burke , "Margaret L. Brandeau" , Philip Brachman , Matthew Boulton , "Barry R. Bloom" , Sally Blower , nick birkett , "Roger A. Bielefeld" , "Dr. Leonelo E. Bautista" , Dan Barth-Jones , Frank G Ball , Joan Aron , Sevgi Aral , Roy Anderson , Michael Altman , Naomar Almeida Filho , Roel Bakker , Niels Becker Subject: New data and methods for Infection Transmission System Analysis Colleagues; It is known that the system aspects of how infection is spread through a population are dominant determinants of population infection levels and offer many opportunities for infection control the epidemiologists commonly miss when they use standard individual risk based methods. But one reason transmission system analysis has not taken hold is that the data for such an analysis are hard to come by. We have recently made advances that provide a powerful new source of data. I will present these at the Congress next Friday. The issue I will use to present our new approach will by how to assess the benefits of focusing control efforts on high risk groups. I will first show that the standard epidemiological data determining individual risks by risk group status provide little information on on potential intervention effects and that attributable risk and individual risk causal model approaches are intrinsically deceptive. For example, given a 15% rate in a high risk group and a 3% risk in the remaining population, the effect of interventions can vary 80 fold depending upon contact patterns. The trick is to determine what are the underlying contact patterns that give rise to the observed infection frequencies. I will present a neat way of performing that trick using nucleotide sequences from agents isolated from individuals in both risk groups at two time points. I would very much like for anyone to attend who has an interest on population effects independent of individual effects and/or epidemiological methodology for the study of populations as integrated entities rather than as collections of independent individuals. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Koopman MD MPH Phone (734) 763-5629 office Dept. of Epidemiology SPH-1 (734) 995-2954 home 109 Observatory St. Fax (734) 764-3192 Ann Arbor, MI 48109 e-mail jkoopman@umich.edu http://www.sph.umich.edu/~jkoopman/jkoopman.html Developing Theory that Serves the Public Health ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0F1ED.88EB0260 Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: Content-Description:
Colleagues;
     = It is known=20 that the system aspects of how infection is spread through
a = population are=20 dominant determinants of population infection levels and
offer many=20 opportunities for infection control the epidemiologists commonly
miss = when=20 they use standard individual risk based methods.  But one=20 reason
transmission system analysis has not taken hold is that the = data for=20 such an
analysis are hard to come by.  We have recently made = advances=20 that provide a
powerful new source of data.  I will present = these at the=20 Congress next
Friday.  The issue I will use to present our new = approach=20 will by how to
assess the benefits of focusing control efforts on = high risk=20 groups.  I will
first show that the standard epidemiological = data=20 determining individual
risks by risk group status provide little = information=20 on on potential
intervention effects and that attributable risk and=20 individual risk causal
model approaches are intrinsically = deceptive. =20 For example, given a 15% rate
in a high risk group and a 3% risk in = the=20 remaining population, the effect
of interventions can vary 80 fold = depending=20 upon contact patterns.  The
trick is to determine what are the=20 underlying contact patterns that give
rise to the observed infection=20 frequencies.  I will present a neat way of
performing that trick = using=20 nucleotide sequences from agents isolated from
individuals in both = risk=20 groups at two time points.

     I would very = much=20 like for anyone to attend who has an interest on
population effects=20 independent of individual effects and/or epidemiological
methodology = for the=20 study of populations as integrated entities rather than
as = collections of=20 independent individuals.
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Jim=20 Koopman MD=20 MPH           &nbs= p;         =20 Phone (734) 763-5629 office
Dept. of Epidemiology=20 SPH-1           &n= bsp;      =20 (734) 995-2954 home
109 Observatory=20 St.           &nbs= p;        =20 Fax   (734) 764-3192
Ann Arbor, MI=20 48109           &n= bsp;        =20 e-mail  jkoopman@umich.edu=20
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     &n= bsp;    =20 Developing Theory that Serves the Public=20 Health           &= nbsp;    =20
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------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C0F1ED.88EB0260-- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BHWLD28186 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:32:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 10:32:20 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BHWJu00783; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:32:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BHVmp28178; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:31:48 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BHS9041746 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:28:09 -0700 Received: from spider16.spiderwebhost.net (spider16.spiderwebhost.net [216.141.121.51]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BHS7X25830 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:28:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (anil@localhost) by spider16.spiderwebhost.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA25710 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:21:55 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:21:55 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Anil To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: unable to save messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i'm unable to save copies of outgoing messages which usually go into my sent-mail folder by default. in fact, the new sent-mail folder is not being able to be created due to some disk quota being exceeded, which my e-mail provider insists is not an issue, since i have ample disk space. i'm not very technical, so any help would be highly appreciated. right now, i'm saving copies of outgoing mails by cc:ing myself and keeping it in my inbox, which is a cumbersome solution indeed :-). thanks a ton. anil -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BHY8D28204 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 10:34:06 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BHY5u00845; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:34:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BHXkX09828; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:33:47 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BHX7007020 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:33:07 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BHX7X27153 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:33:07 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5BHWwD54025; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 10:32:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New data and methods for Infection Transmission System Analysis (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Nick Birkett (x8289)" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Nick Birkett (x8289) (nbirkett@zeus.med.uottawa.ca) wrote in the...: :) THe message attached to this message isn't relevent to this group but it :) illustrates my problem/question. I received the message as a regular :) readable message (ie not as an attachement). However, when I try to :) forward it to another person, it gets convereted to an attachment. This :) is happening a lot lately. :) :) CAn anyone explain why and tell me if I can do anything at my end to make :) pine send out the message as a regular message rather than an attachment? Pine 3.95 does not speak html, so the Pine team decided that just displaying the text was not a good idea, since it is not text/plain. You need to upgrade to 4.33, where I do not see any problem or ask the people that send you e-mail messages not to send you html messages. Another possible suggestion is to try to see if display-filters can be used to start lynx, so that html attachments (or messages) be processed by lynx and converted to text/plain, where you should not have any problem to forward them as text and not as an attachment. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BJBwD21138 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 12:11:57 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJBuC32060; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:11:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BJAqX06678; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:10:52 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJA70108286 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:10:08 -0700 Received: from express-res.com (eloise.express-res.com [204.144.242.129]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJA7X25364 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:10:07 -0700 Received: (from marci@localhost) by express-res.com (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA28336; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:08:24 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:08:24 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Marci Burgess To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: alt-addresses issue MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: "Stefan P. Carmien" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm running Pine 4.21 on AIX 4.3.3, and I have several users with access to a common .mbx mailbox In order for the users to see to whom each message has been sent (in sent-mail), I have included each of their individual e-mail addresses under alt-addresses of the .mbx mailbox With this change, I believe that Pine sees each user as the same person; thus, in the inbox, the "+" symbol appears next to every message which is a reply. Before, when user xyz logged in, she saw the "+" next to only those messages which were replying to her. Is there any way around this? Is there a way for the sent-mail box to display to whom the message was sent without having to use the alt-addresses option? Thanks for any help you can give! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BJFWD23320 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 12:15:30 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJFUC32182; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:15:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BJF4X26286; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:15:04 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJEb008122 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:14:37 -0700 Received: from hotmail.com (f110.law15.hotmail.com [64.4.23.110]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJEbs01509 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:14:37 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:14:34 -0700 Received: from 207.86.217.175 by lw15fd.law15.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 19:14:34 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:14:34 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Jack Tripper" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Getting Mail Attachments From Pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-To: newbold@cs.utah.edu X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Originating-IP: [207.86.217.175] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Jun 2001 19:14:34.0304 (UTC) FILETIME=[BFD36C00:01C0F2AA] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I downloaded and compiled ripMime, but how do I get the mail files in MIME format from pine(I know very little about mailing systems, especially pine). Thanks guys, -Rob >From: Mac Newbold >To: Jack Tripper >CC: Pine Discussion Forum >Subject: Re: Getting Mail Attachments From Pine >Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2001 15:53:54 -0600 (MDT) > >And it came to pass that Today, at 5:38pm, Jack Tripper said: > > >My CS class submits all of their C++ Coding assignments via email > >attachments and I have been trying to write a simple shell script or >quick C > >hack to dump all of their attachments to a directory. I have perused >through > >some of the pine source and I hope I don't offend anyone when I say it's > >pretty ugly. Is there an easy way to accomplish this task? > >FreeBSD has a port available for a program called RipMIME that can do this. >I've never used it, but here's what it claims: > >"RipMIME has been written with one sole purpose in mind, to extract the >attached files out of a MIME encoded email package." > >You can probably find more info at: >http://www.pldaniels.com/ripmime > >Hope that helps, >Mac > >-- >Mac Newbold Univ. of Utah Computer Science Dept. >newbold@cs.utah.edu http://www.cs.utah.edu/~newbold/ > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BJhhD10418 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 12:43:40 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJheu06391; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:43:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BJhHX09576; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:43:17 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJgb007778 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:42:37 -0700 Received: from legolas.mdh.se (cel95eig@legolas.mdh.se [130.243.77.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJgaX02223 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:42:37 -0700 Received: by legolas.mdh.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA20040; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:39:06 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 21:39:06 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Emil Isberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: alt-addresses issue In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Sender: X-To: Marci Burgess X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 11 Jun 2001, Marci Burgess wrote: >I'm running Pine 4.21 on AIX 4.3.3, and I have several users with access >to a common .mbx mailbox > >In order for the users to see to whom each message has been sent (in >sent-mail), I have included each of their individual e-mail addresses >under alt-addresses of the .mbx mailbox With at least 4.33 there is an option index-format that might do a better job than adding those adresses under alt-adresses. Default for index-format is: index-format=3DSTATUS=A0MSGNO=A0DATE=A0FROMORTO(33%)=A0SIZE=A0SUBJECT(67%= ) And I suggest you set it to: index-format=3DSTATUS=A0MSGNO=A0DATE=A0TO(33%)=A0SIZE=A0SUBJECT(67%) Or something like that... :-) --=20 The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella: But chiefly on the just, because The unjust steals the just's umbrella. =09=09-- Lord Bowen From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BJipD19747 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:44:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 12:44:49 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJinC00849; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:44:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BJiQp33024; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:44:26 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BJho096156 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:43:50 -0700 Received: from smtp.gospelcom.net (joppa.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.6]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BJhns09993 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 12:43:49 -0700 Received: (qmail 28986 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2001 19:43:53 -0000 Received: from jabbok.gospelcom.net (HELO eden.gf.gospelcom.net) (204.253.132.4) by joppa.gospelcom.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 19:43:53 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 15:43:53 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Joel Boonstra To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: alt-addresses issue In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > I'm running Pine 4.21 on AIX 4.3.3, and I have several users with access > to a common .mbx mailbox > > In order for the users to see to whom each message has been sent (in > sent-mail), I have included each of their individual e-mail addresses > under alt-addresses of the .mbx mailbox > > With this change, I believe that Pine sees each user as the same > person; thus, in the inbox, the "+" symbol appears next to every message > which is a reply. Before, when user xyz logged in, she saw the "+" next > to only those messages which were replying to her. > > Is there any way around this? Is there a way for the sent-mail box to > display to whom the message was sent without having to use the > alt-addresses option? > > Thanks for any help you can give! You're going to want to look at the 'index-format' section in the pine config file. It contains tokens that describe exactly how you would like your index line to appear. The default setting seems to use a token called 'FROMORTO', which displays the 'From:' header if it's not in the alt-addresses listing, or the 'To:' if the from isn't displayed. You can use just the 'FROM' token, which ignores the 'To:' header. Note that if you play with the 'index-format' option, you need to specify exactly how the index line will appear - that is, you can't just change 'FROMORTO' to 'FROM'. The helpfile in pine includes a list of all the possible tokens (there's a lot of 'em!). HTH! -- Joel Boonstra jboonstra@gospelcom.net From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BK2fD20858 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 13:02:39 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BK2du07125; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:02:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BK2JX31280; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:02:19 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BK1m0100530 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:01:48 -0700 Received: from smtp.gospelcom.net (joppa.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.6]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BK1lK21402 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:01:47 -0700 Received: (qmail 16003 invoked from network); 11 Jun 2001 20:01:51 -0000 Received: from jabbok.gospelcom.net (HELO eden.gf.gospelcom.net) (204.253.132.4) by joppa.gospelcom.net with SMTP; 11 Jun 2001 20:01:51 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Joel Boonstra To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Feature Request: select by thread MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Please forgive me if this feature exists already and I'm missing it. It would be nice to have 'tHread' available in the aggregate-command set, when selecting by text. As things are right now (4.33 on Linux), to get all the messages in a thread, I have to select by subject (;ts), capture the current subject (^X), then edit that subject to strip out any 'Re:' or '(fwd)', or anything else. I've found that 'CTRL+' comes in handy here, to advance by a word (i.e., get rid of the 'RE: '), but it's still quite cumbersome. Is this currently possible? If not, would it be possible to add it? I suppose I could look at the code myself and see... I have found this patch: http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/info/kolapse.html which would be wonderful. However, it only seems to be available for <= 4.32, and I can't downgrade for certain reasons. Any suggestions would be most welcome. -- Joel Boonstra jboonstra@gospelcom.net -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BKMHD24111 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:22:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 13:22:15 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BKMEu07873; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:22:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BKLlX33668; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:21:47 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BKJs050146 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:19:55 -0700 Received: from wrath.cs.utah.edu (wrath.cs.utah.edu [155.99.198.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BKJsX12281 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 13:19:54 -0700 Received: from kamas.cs.utah.edu (kamas.cs.utah.edu [155.99.212.86]) by wrath.cs.utah.edu (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f5BKJrD03736; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:19:53 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (newbold@localhost) by kamas.cs.utah.edu (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f5BKJrr11336; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:19:53 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from newbold@cs.utah.edu) Message-Id: <20010611133152.E11110-100000@kamas.cs.utah.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 14:19:53 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mac Newbold To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Getting Mail Attachments From Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jack Tripper X-Cc: X-Authentication-Warning: kamas.cs.utah.edu: newbold owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN And it came to pass that Today, at 3:14pm, Jack Tripper said: >I downloaded and compiled ripMime, but how do I get the mail files in MIME >format from pine(I know very little about mailing systems, especially pine). IIRC, ripMime works on whole mailboxes, so you can just save all the messages with the attachments to a local folder, then use ripMime on the file containing the mail folder. It will be found in your mail directory (usually ~/mail, or ~/.mail). I don't know if ripMime modifies the actual mailbox, so you might want to try it out on a copy of the file. Mac -- Mac Newbold Univ. of Utah Computer Science Dept. newbold@cs.utah.edu http://www.cs.utah.edu/~newbold/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BNHLD11439 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:17:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 16:17:19 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BNHIC09158; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:17:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5BNGxp33238; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:16:59 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BNG9083498 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:16:10 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5BNG9F15027 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:16:09 -0700 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5BNErD451337; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2001 16:14:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: alt-addresses issue In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Marci Burgess X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Marci Burgess (marci@express-res.com) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I'm running Pine 4.21 on AIX 4.3.3, and I have several users with :) access to a common .mbx mailbox :) :) In order for the users to see to whom each message has been sent (in :) sent-mail), I have included each of their individual e-mail addresses :) under alt-addresses of the .mbx mailbox :) :) With this change, I believe that Pine sees each user as the same :) person; thus, in the inbox, the "+" symbol appears next to every :) message which is a reply. Before, when user xyz logged in, she saw the :) "+" next to only those messages which were replying to her. :) :) Is there any way around this? Is there a way for the sent-mail box to :) display to whom the message was sent without having to use the :) alt-addresses option? There's no really satisfactory way of doing this, the closest that I can think of is to have an extra column in the index, one indicating the FROM field, and another indicating the TO field. You can also apply a patch that I wrote called "Define your own rules..." which among other things allows you to do this. If you are interested in this grab the patch from my web site (address below) or contact me directly, as it's a little bit long to explain everything here, and really easy to make it work. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5C6ifD19930 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:44:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 11 23:44:39 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5C6idC19579; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:44:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5C6feH09730; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:41:40 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5C6ep063536 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:40:51 -0700 Received: from ns1.syntegra.com (ns1.syntegra.com [150.143.16.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5C6eoF28950 for ; Mon, 11 Jun 2001 23:40:51 -0700 Received: from [129.179.17.10] by ns1.cdc.com with ESMTP for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 01:40:46 -0500 Received: from misty.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:41:38 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:40:14 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine on a diet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, This is just a bit of FYI.... I'm using the Sun "WorkShop Compilers 5.0" to compile pine. I tweaked the various makefiles and other places to compile pine without debugging turned on as well as increasing the level of optimization. I also "stripped" the binaries. After this the pine binary went from 6079276 to 5001928. Also, the imap binary went from 4833280 to 2013220. This was on a Solaris 7 system. Yes, the compile took longer. Results were even better on a Solaris 8 machine. Regards, Ed -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5DHrbD31511 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jun 13 10:53:36 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5DHrSC11572; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:53:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5DHqxp19774; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:52:59 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5DHlt008186 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:47:55 -0700 Received: from wf.net (odin.wf.net [64.57.224.7]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5DHlsF03201 for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2001 10:47:55 -0700 Received: (qmail 22702 invoked from network); 13 Jun 2001 12:47:53 -0500 Received: from www2.mwdental.com (HELO itdept) (64.57.234.49) by odin.wf.net with SMTP; 13 Jun 2001 12:47:53 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 12:47:54 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bill Andersen" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Nav Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello All... I'm locked in to using an older system and have finally managed to get Pine working. The system is AIX 4.1.5.0 and Pine is 4.10. Everything is working well, but I've run across a small problem with my Wyse50 terminals. I use a PC and terminal emulator to telnet to the AIX machine. My term is set to vt100 and my arrow keys will allow me to move the highlight bar between options. I was at one of my user's terminals yesterday and they were using "N" for next and "P" for previous (which is fine), but as a habit, they hit an arrow key to move around and got an error. The arrow keys are not functioning correctly in Pine. They work fine in our accounting software, so I've got to believe the terminal def is correct. Is there something in Pine 4.10 that would prevent "wyse50" TERM "type" from working correctly. Or is there a setting I'm missing in Pine? Not a real big thing, but I'd have some happy users if anyone can direct me to some info/FAQ on the matter... Thanks Bill -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5ENI3D13786 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 14 16:18:01 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5ENI1u05812; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:18:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5ENHAE16672; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:17:10 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5EN2a033984 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:02:37 -0700 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (IDENT:root@nimbus.anzio.com [204.201.253.34]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5EN2aK19832 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:02:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5EN1Bc09941 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:01:11 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:01:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Viewing via .mailcap MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN With Pine on Unix, it is possible to configure viewers for various kinds of attachments, using the .mailcap file. So far so good. I can make food use of this, as long as the attachment (as built by the sender's mail software) includes a MIME type. However, if the MIME type indicates only that it is "Application/OCTET-STREAM", then I would like to have access to the original filename's extension. There does not appear to be a way to do this. I have looked at the source, although not the very latest. Can someone confirm this, or provide a workaround? 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Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Disk Quota In-Reply-To: <011101c0f55f$aa90f9e0$64190083@csankar> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sankar Chakrabarti X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 15 Jun 2001, Sankar Chakrabarti wrote: >Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:24:39 +0530 >From: Sankar Chakrabarti >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_NextPart_000_010E_01C0F58D.C4386D00" >Subject: Disk Quota > >Can I implement Disk Quota for users mails (/var/spool/mail) in pine ?? Disk quotas is a feature (or not) of your operating system. PINE is not involved in that. In Red Hat Linux you can configure disk quotas using linuxconf. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. Harris Shipping/mailing address: OS Systems Engineer 190 Pittsburgh Ave., Sault Ste. Marie, Red Hat Inc. Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Latest XFree86 test RPMS: ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/testing From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5FF2GD10130 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 15 08:02:15 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5FF2Fu25609; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:02:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5FF1tH22754; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:01:55 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5FF0n0110492 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:00:49 -0700 Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (root@srvr22.engin.umich.edu [141.213.75.21]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5FF0ns18372 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:00:49 -0700 Received: from maildev.engin.umich.edu (root@maildev.engin.umich.edu [141.213.40.99]) by srvr22.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09073 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:00:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (cdrum@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maildev.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA06125 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:00:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:00:46 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Chris Drumgoole To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: compiling on HP/UX 11: error 1711 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I am trying to compile pine 4.33 on an HP/UX 11 machine, using the HP cc compiler, so I use: ./build hpp (as hpx is for hpux 10, right?) It builds c-client, imapd, pilot, and pico fine, however, during the pine build, I get this: cc -g -DDEBUG -DCAEN -Dconst= -Aa -D_HPUX_SOURCE -DHPP -DSYSTYPE=\"HPP\" -DMOUSE -c os.c cc: "os.c", line 1285: error 1711: Inconsistent parameter list declaration for "srandom". *** Error exit code 1A I looked in the os.c (os-hpp.c), and this is the srandom function: void srandom(i) int i; { } Any ideas? Not sure if this helps, but it builds fine on other platforms (solaris, being one of them). thanks for your help in advance. chris Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:09:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5FF9dD18312 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:09:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 15 08:09:37 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5FF9bu25828; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:09:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5FF9AX30496; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:09:10 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5FF7B010708 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:07:11 -0700 Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (root@srvr22.engin.umich.edu [141.213.75.21]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5FF7BF20606 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:07:11 -0700 Received: from maildev.engin.umich.edu (root@maildev.engin.umich.edu [141.213.40.99]) by srvr22.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA09769 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:07:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (cdrum@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maildev.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA06231 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:07:09 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 11:07:08 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Chris Drumgoole To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: compiling on HP/UX 11: error 1711 (working now) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OK, apparently, using ./build hpx works. I apologize for the previous message. The comments in the makefile.hpx say it is for HP/UX 10 system, specifically... that is why I was confused. chris Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5G0vjD16162 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 15 17:57:44 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5G0vhu15769; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:57:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5G0vGX23136; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:57:16 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5G0r1074258 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:53:01 -0700 Received: from relay.perceval.net (relay.perceval.net [194.183.224.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5G0r0X30289 for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:53:00 -0700 Received: from 120-228-183-194.dialup.perceval.be (120-228-183-194.dialup.perceval.be [194.183.228.120]) by relay.perceval.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5G0qkf07690 for ; Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:52:46 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 02:54:35 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gregoire Welraeds To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: outlook and pine message. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, this is my first post to this list. I have question about a problem between pine and M$ outlook/outlook express. here is the question: I recieve a mail from an outlook user. I reply to the message using Pine => Outlook user recieve the entire mail as an attachment. The body of the mail is empty. I'm using PINE 4.10 on a Linux SuSE 6.1,but I know I had the same problem with previous/same versions of PINE under FreeBSD 3.2 and 4.1. Is there anything that I can do to correct this behaviour ? Is it a coding issue ? I have searched in the archive of this mailling but I haven't found anything regarding this issue. I don't know if this is a common question but if it is, than just forgive me. Gregoire Welraeds -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:18:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5HMIPD05000 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jun 17 15:18:24 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5HMINC20871; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:18:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5HMI0H09892; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:18:00 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5HMG4085202 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:16:04 -0700 Received: from smtp.gospelcom.net (joppa.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.6]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5HMG3F25911 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:16:04 -0700 Received: (qmail 19913 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2001 22:16:09 -0000 Received: from jabbok.gospelcom.net (HELO eden.gf.gospelcom.net) (204.253.132.4) by joppa.gospelcom.net with SMTP; 17 Jun 2001 22:16:09 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 18:16:09 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Joel Boonstra To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: outlook and pine message. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gregoire Welraeds X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Gregorie, > this is my first post to this list. I have question about a problem between > pine and M$ outlook/outlook express. here is the question: > > I recieve a mail from an outlook user. > I reply to the message using Pine > => Outlook user recieve the entire mail as an attachment. The body of the mail > is empty. > > I'm using PINE 4.10 on a Linux SuSE 6.1,but I know I had the same problem with > previous/same versions of PINE under FreeBSD 3.2 and 4.1. > > Is there anything that I can do to correct this behaviour ? Is it a > coding issue ? I have searched in the archive of this mailling but I > haven't found anything regarding this issue. I don't know if this is a > common question but if it is, than just forgive me. Does this happen with all Outlook users that you send email to, or just some? Can you upgrade to a newer version of Pine, or isn't that possible? It sounds like this may be a Character-set discrepancy. I have experienced similar issues using Pine to send email to Outlook users, and the solution was to change my character-set from nothing to 'ISO-8859-1'. I don't know which one you'd be using, but that may be one thing you can try. I've found that if you don't specify a character-set in your Pine config, then send messages that include accented or other special characters, some users receive your message as type 'X-UNKNOWN', and display it as an attachment. HTH! -- Joel Boonstra jboonstra@gospelcom.net From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:38:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5HMcMD25458 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jun 17 15:38:20 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5HMcKC21248; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:38:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5HMbrH27470; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:37:53 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5HMbB0130126 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:37:11 -0700 Received: from relay.perceval.net (relay.perceval.net [194.183.224.20]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5HMb9X03805 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 15:37:10 -0700 Received: from 120-228-183-194.dialup.perceval.be (120-228-183-194.dialup.perceval.be [194.183.228.120]) by relay.perceval.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5HMatf18174; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 00:36:55 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 05:06:39 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gregoire Welraeds To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: outlook and pine message. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joel Boonstra X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 17 Jun 2001, Joel Boonstra wrote: > Does this happen with all Outlook users that you send email to, or just > some? Can you upgrade to a newer version of Pine, or isn't that possible? It seems that this problem only happen when I reply to people. Not when I send a new email. My version of Pine is 4.10. I could try to upgrade from 4.10 to 4.33 but I have not seen anything in the changelog regarding this issue. > It sounds like this may be a Character-set discrepancy. I have > experienced similar issues using Pine to send email to Outlook users, and > the solution was to change my character-set from nothing to 'ISO-8859-1'. > I don't know which one you'd be using, but that may be one thing you can > try. I've found that if you don't specify a character-set in your Pine > config, then send messages that include accented or other special > characters, some users receive your message as type 'X-UNKNOWN', and > display it as an attachment. the character-set option was not set in my configuration. This is now changed. I'll test it tomorow and I'll report the result... wait and see :) > HTH! thanks. Gregoire Welraeds From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5I5S4D01525 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jun 17 22:28:03 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5I5S2C28211; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:28:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5I5QLX04584; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:26:21 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5I5Ju098176 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:19:58 -0700 Received: from diabolo.powered-by.euronet.be (diabolo.rootshell.be [213.177.132.226]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5I5JqX04485 for ; Sun, 17 Jun 2001 22:19:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (xavier@diabolo [127.0.0.1]) by diabolo.powered-by.euronet.be (8.11.4/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f5I5Jam13919 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:19:39 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:19:36 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Xavier Mertens To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Sort key per folder? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Is there a way to define a sort key per folder? Ex: incoming -> thread errors -> arrival date etc... X -- Visit: http://3276456082 "Contrary to popular belief, Unix is userfriendly. 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Harris" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sort key per folder? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Xavier Mertens X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: devserv.devel.redhat.com: mharris owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: X-Unexpected-Header: The Spanish Inquisition X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 18 Jun 2001, Xavier Mertens wrote: >Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:19:36 +0200 (CEST) >From: Xavier Mertens >To: Pine Discussion Forum >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >Subject: Sort key per folder? > >Hi, > >Is there a way to define a sort key per folder? >Ex: incoming -> thread > errors -> arrival date > etc... Very highly requested feature I believe. Available as a patch on Eduardo Chappa's website. Search archives for the URL. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike A. 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Ontario, Canada, P6C 5B3 http://www.redhat.com Phone: (705)949-2136 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Latest XFree86 test RPMS: ftp://people.redhat.com/mharris/testing From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 03:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5I9rLD09611 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:55:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 18 02:46:10 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5I9k9u08808; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:46:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5I9jZE26590; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:45:36 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5I9iY046300 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:44:34 -0700 Received: from users.assist.ro (users.assist.ro [194.102.130.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5I9iAs30508 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 02:44:15 -0700 Received: from dialup25.assist.ro (dialup25.assist.ro [194.102.130.57]) by users.assist.ro (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f5I9hdM06148 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:43:40 +0300 Message-Id: <1828560081.20010618123236@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:32:36 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sort key per folder? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Monday, June 18, 2001, 10:24:04 AM, Mike A. Harris wrote: > Very highly requested feature I believe. Available as a patch on > Eduardo Chappa's website. Search archives for the URL. Not to be a PITA but is Pine development entered a coma ? - -- If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... ...Oh wait, he already does. __________________________________________________________________ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP Cyber-Knights Templar 6.5.8ckt (build 06) Comment: Powered by RITlabs' The Bat! iQA/AwUBOy2uk/FgRjY97rftEQJ5sQCg1bTjopWZnvf2ibO5sv2u7f6y6yEAoKH9 RDGLyXAOwZJJ0WV5fopNIbJo =wZFU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:27:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5ICRwD10988 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:27:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 18 05:27:57 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5ICRuu11683; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:27:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5ICRXp22794; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:27:33 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5ICQR044656 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:26:27 -0700 Received: from mailhost.iitb.ac.in ([203.199.51.142]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5ICQPs09974 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 05:26:26 -0700 Received: (qmail 9831 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2001 12:19:16 -0000 Received: from jeeves.cse.iitb.ernet.in (HELO jeeves.cse.iitb.ac.in) (root@144.16.111.15) by mailhost.iitb.ac.in with SMTP; 18 Jun 2001 12:19:16 -0000 Received: from chandra.cse.iitb.ernet.in (chandra.cse.iitb.ernet.in [144.16.111.7]) by jeeves.cse.iitb.ac.in (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5ICQJa14718 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:56:19 +0530 Received: from localhost (raja@localhost) by chandra.cse.iitb.ernet.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA09003 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:56:02 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:56:02 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: V V Raja Rao To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: incoming folders MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hai, I have tried to select and zoom(;,p,u,z) an incoming folder, but pine says, the operation cannot be performed on incoming folders. Is there any way to perform those operations on the incoming folders? Thanks, Raja. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:14:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5IFEAD07190 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:14:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 18 08:14:06 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IFE6C06732; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:14:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5IFDjE22780; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:13:45 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IFD20113772 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:13:02 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IFD1s02770 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:13:01 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5IFCdD63164; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:12:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:12:38 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: incoming folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: V V Raja Rao X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** V V Raja Rao (raja@cse.iitb.ac.in) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I have tried to select and zoom(;,p,u,z) an incoming folder, but pine :) says, the operation cannot be performed on incoming folders. Is there any :) way to perform those operations on the incoming folders? No, you can not check for new mail in incoming folders like that. You can, however, press TAB when you are in any of thenm and that will make travel through your remaining Incoming-Folders to check which one contains new mail. You can also apply a patch available in my web page (address below) which will notify you about new mail in your Incoming-Folders collection. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:16:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5IFGND19154 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:16:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 18 08:16:22 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IFGLu15495; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:16:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5IFG5p17660; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:16:05 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IFFe044762 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:15:40 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IFFds03340 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:15:39 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5IFFUD19256; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 08:15:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sort key per folder? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Xavier Mertens X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Xavier Mertens (xavier@bru-noc.net) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Is there a way to define a sort key per folder? :) Ex: incoming -> thread :) errors -> arrival date :) etc... No, you can apply a patch which you can find in my web page (called Define your own rules...) which among other things allows you to do this. Get the patch from my web page (adress below). -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:42:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5IJgpD00185 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 18 12:42:49 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IJgmC18344; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:42:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5IJdkE30674; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:39:46 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IJSL0113726 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:28:21 -0700 Received: from pivsbh2.ms.com (pivsbh2.ms.com [199.89.64.104]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IJSLF20683 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 12:28:21 -0700 Received: from pivsbh2-idmz.ms.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pivsbh2.ms.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4CDB01423 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sasmh4.ms.com (unknown [144.14.193.5]) by pivsbh2-idmz.ms.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 353D91A99 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vampire (vampire.morgan.com [144.14.16.239]) by sasmh4.ms.com (8.8.5/imap+ldap v2.4) with ESMTP id PAA10751 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:28:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:28:18 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: fail back from auth method to plaintext login? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It seems that by design, pine will not allow failing back from a secure authentication method to one that is insecure. I can see how that might be good practice, especially on the internet as a whole, but for an internal deployment of pine, it would seem that an administrator should be able to configure the product to fail back to plaintext, if they desire. For example, I have pine compiled with kerberos support, and when people have generated the appropriate tickets, they automatically authenticate to the IMAP server and it all works just fine. Now, if for some reason they haven't gotten themselves their kerberos tickets (and there is no other secure authentication method enabled), then they can't log in at all, as the only other method that can be used is plain-text which pine won't fall back to using after a failed kerberos attempt. They then have to quite pine, generate their kerberos tickets, and then run pine again. Is this really necessary? Has anyone suggested adding a config switch to allow administrators to turn on fall-back to plaintext authentication? Thanks, -Eric -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5IKctD00416 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:38:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 18 13:38:54 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IKcru29006; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:38:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5IKcbE10400; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:38:37 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IKaV0125944 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:36:31 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IKaUK04945 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:36:30 -0700 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5IKaTD483233; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 13:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext login? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com wrote in the pine-info list today: :) For example, I have pine compiled with kerberos support, and when :) people have generated the appropriate tickets, they automatically :) authenticate to the IMAP server and it all works just fine. Now, if for :) some reason they haven't gotten themselves their kerberos tickets (and :) there is no other secure authentication method enabled), then they :) can't log in at all, as the only other method that can be used is :) plain-text which pine won't fall back to using after a failed kerberos :) attempt. They then have to quite pine, generate their kerberos tickets, :) and then run pine again. :) :) Is this really necessary? Has anyone suggested adding a config switch :) to allow administrators to turn on fall-back to plaintext :) authentication? You can get around this by disabling kerberos authentication, this is done by adding disable-these-authenticators=GSSAPI in the person's .pinerc file. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:41:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5IMfKD20522 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:41:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 18 15:41:18 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5IMfIC25270; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:41:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5IMeoE22472; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 15:40:50 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5ILrP0102624 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:53:26 -0700 Received: from pivsbh1.ms.com (pivsbh1-x0.ms.com [199.89.64.101]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5ILrPs28949 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 14:53:25 -0700 Received: from pivsbh1-idmz.ms.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pivsbh1.ms.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0ED01200C5; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:53:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sasmh4.ms.com (unknown [144.14.193.5]) by pivsbh1-idmz.ms.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7168200F7; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from morganstanley.com (saitpc925.morgan.com [144.14.15.211]) by sasmh4.ms.com (8.8.5/imap+ldap v2.4) with ESMTP id RAA00841; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:53:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3B2E7855.B3C18E68@morganstanley.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 17:53:25 -0400 Reply-To: Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eric Hagberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext login? References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1480E423C452D15D423B6AA9" X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en,ja X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1480E423C452D15D423B6AA9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm aware of that setting, but using that means it won't use kerberos ever - it doesn't fall back to plaintext while using kerberos if the tickets are available and valid. Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) For example, I have pine compiled with kerberos support, and when > :) people have generated the appropriate tickets, they automatically > :) authenticate to the IMAP server and it all works just fine. Now, if for > :) some reason they haven't gotten themselves their kerberos tickets (and > :) there is no other secure authentication method enabled), then they > :) can't log in at all, as the only other method that can be used is > :) plain-text which pine won't fall back to using after a failed kerberos > :) attempt. They then have to quite pine, generate their kerberos tickets, > :) and then run pine again. > :) > :) Is this really necessary? Has anyone suggested adding a config switch > :) to allow administrators to turn on fall-back to plaintext > :) authentication? > > You can get around this by disabling kerberos authentication, this is done > by adding > > disable-these-authenticators=GSSAPI > > in the person's .pinerc file. > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ --------------1480E423C452D15D423B6AA9 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="Eric.Hagberg.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Eric Hagberg Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Eric.Hagberg.vcf" begin:vcard n:Hagberg;Eric x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Morgan Stanley;Information Technology adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:Eric.Hagberg@MorganStanley.com title:Vice President fn:Eric C. Hagberg end:vcard --------------1480E423C452D15D423B6AA9-- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5INmPD10257 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:48:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 18 16:48:24 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5INmNu04121; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:48:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5INlwp32196; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:47:58 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5INRt0127154 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:27:55 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5INRtF30325 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:27:55 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5INRrD148134; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 16:27:53 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext login? In-Reply-To: <3B2E7855.B3C18E68@morganstanley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eric Hagberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Eric Hagberg (Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com) wrote today: :) I'm aware of that setting, but using that means it won't use kerberos ever - :) it doesn't fall back to plaintext while using kerberos if the tickets are :) available and valid. Eric, My point is that you should use that configuration option for machines that do not get tickets. You can do it through the command line or through a pine.conf configurtion setting. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5J2g8D03802 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:42:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 18 19:42:06 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5J2g6C32393; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:42:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5J2fhX33682; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:41:43 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5J2ew062148 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:40:58 -0700 Received: from pivsbh1.ms.com (pivsbh1-x0.ms.com [199.89.64.101]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5J2ewX31796 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:40:58 -0700 Received: from pivsbh1-idmz.ms.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pivsbh1.ms.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 818952020E; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sasmh4.ms.com (unknown [144.14.193.5]) by pivsbh1-idmz.ms.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6306820223; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:40:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MorganStanley.com (vpn2766022.morgan.com [172.27.66.22]) by sasmh4.ms.com (8.8.5/imap+ldap v2.4) with ESMTP id WAA02545; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:40:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3B2EBC44.DC7AF812@MorganStanley.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 22:43:16 -0400 Reply-To: Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eric Hagberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext login? References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN While a wrapper script could check for valid tickets and then run with the command-line to disable the kerberos authentication... why not allow the fall-back behavior to just work? There just doesn't seem to be a need to jump through those hoops when the program could do it for you automatically. Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Eric Hagberg (Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com) wrote today: > > :) I'm aware of that setting, but using that means it won't use kerberos ever - > :) it doesn't fall back to plaintext while using kerberos if the tickets are > :) available and valid. > > Eric, > > My point is that you should use that configuration option for machines > that do not get tickets. You can do it through the command line or through > a pine.conf configurtion setting. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5J2u9D31197 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:56:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 18 19:56:08 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5J2u8C32701; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:56:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5J2trE31846; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:55:54 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5J2tL088444 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:55:21 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5J2tLK27707 for ; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:55:21 -0700 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f5J2tJD151651; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 19:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext login? In-Reply-To: <3B2EBC44.DC7AF812@MorganStanley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eric Hagberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Eric Hagberg (Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com) wrote today: :) While a wrapper script could check for valid tickets and then run :) with the command-line to disable the kerberos authentication... why :) not allow the fall-back behavior to just work? There just doesn't :) seem to be a need to jump through those hoops when the program could :) do it for you automatically. Dear Eric, I agree with you, in the mean time I suggest that you use a different pine.conf in each different machine to overcome this problem, and that's really easy too. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:49:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5JGnXD09328 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:49:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jun 19 09:49:32 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5JGnVu28101; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:49:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5JGnBE25544; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:49:12 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5JGm8025768 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:48:08 -0700 Received: from niwot.scd.ucar.edu (niwot.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.8.223]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5JGm8s23819 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:48:08 -0700 Received: from sedona.scd.ucar.edu (sedona.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.8.183]) by niwot.scd.ucar.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA21213; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:48:04 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (era@localhost) by sedona.scd.ucar.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA06293; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:48:03 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 10:48:03 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: era@ucar.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ed Arnold To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext login? In-Reply-To: <3B2EBC44.DC7AF812@MorganStanley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eric Hagberg X-Cc: Eduardo Chappa , Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sedona.scd.ucar.edu: era owned process doing -bs X-Sender: era@sedona.scd.ucar.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Doesn't it make you just a *tiny* bit nervous that your users are going to fall back to cleartext authentication ... perhaps without even knowing what they're doing? Hasn't it been said that users who don't understand the nature of their authentication method are one of the biggest security risks? It seems to me that you need to have an authentication method that doesn't fail. If Kerberos is too complex for your users to understand, perhaps you should use ssl/ssh or something else? > While a wrapper script could check for valid tickets and then run with the > command-line to disable the kerberos authentication... why not allow the fall-back > behavior to just work? There just doesn't seem to be a need to jump through those > hoops when the program could do it for you automatically. > > Eduardo Chappa wrote: > > > *** Eric Hagberg (Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com) wrote today: > > > > :) I'm aware of that setting, but using that means it won't use kerberos ever - > > :) it doesn't fall back to plaintext while using kerberos if the tickets are > > :) available and valid. > > > > Eric, > > > > My point is that you should use that configuration option for machines > > that do not get tickets. You can do it through the command line or through > > a pine.conf configurtion setting. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:57:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5JGvhD16944 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jun 19 09:57:42 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5JGvfC19237; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:57:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5JGvKp23650; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:57:20 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5JGu9062056 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:56:10 -0700 Received: from pivsbh2.ms.com (pivsbh2.ms.com [199.89.64.104]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5JGu9F06075 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 09:56:09 -0700 Received: from pivsbh2-idmz.ms.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pivsbh2.ms.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 023821153; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:56:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sasmh4.ms.com (unknown [144.14.193.5]) by pivsbh2-idmz.ms.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA37222BA; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vampire (vampire.morgan.com [144.14.16.239]) by sasmh4.ms.com (8.8.5/imap+ldap v2.4) with ESMTP id MAA28851; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:56:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 12:56:06 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext login? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Arnold X-Cc: Eduardo Chappa , Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Not really. Then again, I'm not in the security group here. This is an application deployed entirely within a heavily-firewalled environment. Given the fact that most of the time the kerberos functionality will work (the users generally don't have to do anything other than log into their desktop to get tickets), the occasional fall back to text authentication inside our firewall isn't a big problem. And they would certainly know that something different is going on - when kerberos is working, they don't have to type their password at all. -Eric On Tue, 19 Jun 2001, Ed Arnold wrote: EA> Doesn't it make you just a *tiny* bit nervous that your users are EA> going to fall back to cleartext authentication ... perhaps without EA> even knowing what they're doing? Hasn't it been said that users EA> who don't understand the nature of their authentication method EA> are one of the biggest security risks? EA> EA> It seems to me that you need to have an authentication method that EA> doesn't fail. If Kerberos is too complex for your users to EA> understand, perhaps you should use ssl/ssh or something else? From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5JM8uD04882 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:08:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Tue Jun 19 15:08:53 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5JM8qC32107; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:08:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5JM8YE31270; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:08:34 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5JM7G097198 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:07:16 -0700 Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5JM7GX29225 for ; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 15:07:16 -0700 Received: from line133.slip.csx.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.99.133] helo=cam.ac.uk) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15CTeU-0007Py-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:07:14 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 23:07:19 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Barry Landy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Inability to change PINERC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: bl10@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have an odd effect and wonder if anyone else has seen it. I am using the 4.32 OS/2 version, but cannot see that it can be OS dependent. I tried to change my Roles: I altered one of them and changed the order. Tested my changes; all fine. Exited the Pine session and restarted Pine: the Roles were just as they were before the changes. Tried again - same. I looked at Pinerc with an editor to try to understand the effect: I find that the LIT: lines that define roles (and other things) occur in TWO places and every single LIT: occurs exactly once in each place. My suspicion is that version B is being written and version A read on startup. I have noticed this before and "cured" it by deleting one of the sets (a bit experimental; delete the wrong set and all the settings vanish, even though the other set are still in the file); I thought that had cured it but obviously the dloubling has come back and must be being caused by Pine itself. Any clues or similar experiences? -- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 192, Gilbert Road Direct line: +44 1223 334713 Cambridge CB4 3PB Home: +44-1223-570417 Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KCBgD24861 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jun 20 05:11:41 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KCBVu29850; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:11:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KCB8H23848; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:11:08 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KC9I098496 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:09:18 -0700 Received: from panther4c.felines.org ([209.124.87.82]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KC96s17895 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:09:17 -0700 Received: from reset.felines.org (reset.felines.org [209.124.87.83]) by panther4c.felines.org (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f5KC95520745 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:09:05 -0400 Received: from panther4.int.felines.org ([192.168.255.1]) by reset.felines.org with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id NG2Z227S; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:09:05 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:09:05 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jay Libove To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PINE 4.33, Exchange, and IMAP logins not matching From/Return address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello - I have been a PINE user for many years, starting with using PINE just to read mail from the local /var/spool/mail/ directory on a UNIX machine, moving up to accessing remote mail stores, and these days I use it to access my Exchange servers. In one environment, where the user ID on the Exchange server matches an email alias on the Exchange server, everything works fine. In another environment however, I have to log in to the Exchange server (using IMAP) with an ID string that looks like DomainName/DomainUserID/ExchangeMailboxAlias .. I can access the mailbox, but if I send mail, the return address has that whole long ID string as the left side of the return email address (That is, instead of having From: My.Name@My.Domain as the return email address in the message, I end up with DomainName/DomainUserID/ExchangeMailboxAlias@My.Domain which is unreplyable). Alternatively, I could set the login string (from which the From: is generated) to My.Name, but then I have to manually type the DomainName/DomainUserID/ExchangeMailboxAlias string repeatedly - at first log in, and every time a folder is accessed on the Exchange server - so that is not a practical workaround. I remember a long time ago when PINE moved deliberately towards disallowing the (ab)user to set their own From: line to make PINE less useful to people who would fake email addresses, but unfortunately it seems that I may need to do exactly that -- specify a different From: address -- in order to be able to use PINE in this environment. Any ideas please? Thanks! -Jay -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:34:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KCYZD26271 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:34:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jun 20 05:34:33 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KCYWu30423; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:34:32 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KCY6X16560; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:34:07 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KCXF0125778 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:33:15 -0700 Received: from legolas.mdh.se (cel95eig@legolas.mdh.se [130.243.77.20]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KCXEF11140 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:33:14 -0700 Received: by legolas.mdh.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA08045; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:32:11 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:32:11 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Emil Isberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE 4.33, Exchange, and IMAP logins not matching From/Return address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: X-To: Jay Libove X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Jay Libove wrote: >I remember a long time ago when PINE moved deliberately towards >disallowing the (ab)user to set their own From: line to make PINE less >useful to people who would fake email addresses, but unfortunately it >seems that I may need to do exactly that -- specify a different From: >address -- in order to be able to use PINE in this environment. The hidden feature allow-changing-from changes so that you may set your From: line again. You just have to open your pinerc to add that line... And then ofcourse add "From: Name " to customized-hdrs. -- Polymer physicists are into chains. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KCtnD02819 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:55:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jun 20 05:55:47 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KCtlu30796; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:55:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KCtVE26378; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:55:32 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KCt40125774 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:55:04 -0700 Received: from panther4c.felines.org ([209.124.87.82]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KCstX26043 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:55:03 -0700 Received: from reset.felines.org (reset.felines.org [209.124.87.83]) by panther4c.felines.org (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f5KCsj520983; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:54:45 -0400 Received: by reset.felines.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:54:45 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 08:54:44 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jay Libove To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: PINE 4.33, Exchange, and IMAP logins not matching From/Return address MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: "'Emil Isberg'" X-Cc: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello Emil - Thank you for that rapid answer! I have two editions of PINE running -- one, PC PINE, which I installed from the Washington.edu FTP server as a binary, and the other, on Linux which I installed from the RedHat RPM. (I am capable of building PINE on Linux myself, just lazy). In neither of these two do I see the word "hidden" or "changing" in the Setup -> Config. (I also checked the contents of ~/.pinerc on the Linux installation). Ahhh, I see - it REALLY is hidden -- that is, the configuration wizard in PINE itself won't show it. I manually added it to the feature list in the PC PINE pinerc file, added a From: header to the custom headers list, restarted PINE, and away I go, happy. (I got some help from the pine-info archive, where one single message obliquely mentioned this feature without providing directions as to its use). Many thanks! -Jay -----Original Message----- From: Emil Isberg [mailto:emil.isberg@mds.mdh.se] Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2001 8:32 AM To: Jay Libove Cc: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PINE 4.33, Exchange, and IMAP logins not matching From/Return address On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Jay Libove wrote: >I remember a long time ago when PINE moved deliberately towards >disallowing the (ab)user to set their own From: line to make PINE less >useful to people who would fake email addresses, but unfortunately it >seems that I may need to do exactly that -- specify a different From: >address -- in order to be able to use PINE in this environment. The hidden feature allow-changing-from changes so that you may set your From: line again. You just have to open your pinerc to add that line... And then ofcourse add "From: Name " to customized-hdrs. -- Polymer physicists are into chains. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KGrrD05513 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jun 20 09:53:47 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KGrlC28942; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:53:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KGrTp10392; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:53:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KGqX042288 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:52:33 -0700 Received: from srvr22.engin.umich.edu (root@srvr22.engin.umich.edu [141.213.75.21]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KGqWs10465 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 09:52:32 -0700 Received: from maildev.engin.umich.edu (root@maildev.engin.umich.edu [141.213.40.99]) by srvr22.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA22227 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:52:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (cdrum@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maildev.engin.umich.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA01584 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:52:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:52:30 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Chris Drumgoole To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: kerberos and openssl conflicts? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I am trying to configure several email clients for a college network, and I would like to include support for ssl and kerberos 5. We have mit kerberos 5 1.06 and openssl 0.9.5. I found out from trying to configure mutt, that there is a namespace conflict with libcrypto, thus, making it impossible to install with both options unless we do one of three things. 1. upgrade kerberos to 1.1 or 1.2, 2. change the name of kerberos's libcrypto to libk5crypto 3. extract all objects from both libcryptos, and make one libcrypto As pine is and will be our preferred/supported unix email client, can I assume that one or all of these fixes will allow pine to work? (I think it is a problem, because I can't even compile pine properly when enabling those options). Thanks for your help. chris Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:53:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KIraD14014 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jun 20 11:53:33 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KIrXC01411; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:53:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KIrBH06782; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:53:11 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KIox0119420 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:50:59 -0700 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KIoxs15318 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:50:59 -0700 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KIol117927; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:50:52 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.0.Beta7+UW01.04/8.12.0.Beta7+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KIolOu025076 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:50:47 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Nav Problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bill Andersen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There is a hidden configuration feature "termdef-takes-precedence" which should help. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 13 Jun 2001, Bill Andersen wrote: > Hello All... > > I'm locked in to using an older system and have finally > managed to get Pine working. The system is AIX 4.1.5.0 > and Pine is 4.10. > > Everything is working well, but I've run across a small > problem with my Wyse50 terminals. I use a PC and terminal > emulator to telnet to the AIX machine. My term is set > to vt100 and my arrow keys will allow me to move the > highlight bar between options. I was at one of my user's > terminals yesterday and they were using "N" for next and > "P" for previous (which is fine), but as a habit, they > hit an arrow key to move around and got an error. The > arrow keys are not functioning correctly in Pine. They > work fine in our accounting software, so I've got to > believe the terminal def is correct. > > Is there something in Pine 4.10 that would prevent "wyse50" > TERM "type" from working correctly. Or is there a setting > I'm missing in Pine? > > Not a real big thing, but I'd have some happy users if > anyone can direct me to some info/FAQ on the matter... > > Thanks > > Bill > > > From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:56:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KIu7D18065 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jun 20 11:56:05 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KIu5u10923; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:56:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5KItjE21478; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:55:45 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KIrj008306 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:53:45 -0700 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KIrjX19319 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:53:45 -0700 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.12]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KIrj118640 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:53:45 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.0.Beta7+UW01.04/8.12.0.Beta7+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5KIrjOu025109 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO) for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:53:45 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 11:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Sort key per folder? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This will be in Pine4.40. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5L6LWD17969 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jun 20 23:21:26 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5L6LQC21410; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:21:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5L6L3X04392; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:21:04 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5L6HN092752 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:17:23 -0700 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5L6HNF30584 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:17:23 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.u.washington.edu (mailhost1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5L6HNo29263; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:17:23 -0700 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (lum@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mailhost1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5L6HNi03276; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:17:23 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 22:36:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: re: fail back from auth method to plaintext In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Sender: Mark Crispin X-To: pine-info@U.Washington.EDU X-Cc: E-Mail Development X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have reviewed these messages. The original complaint from Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com did not mention what IMAP server they are using. Thus, I do not know what to make of the claim that "the only other method that can be used is plain-text." There is no such method as "plain-text". SASL (RFC 2222 authentication protocol), via the IMAP AUTHENTICATE command, has two plaintext mechanisms, one called PLAIN and one called LOGIN. Both are supported by Pine. There is also the IMAP LOGIN command, which is pre-SASL and is heading towards deprecation in the Internet standards process. If the server offers the PLAIN and/or LOGIN SASL mechanism, then Pine will fall back to these unless the user specified the "/secure" switch. I can prove it with a trivial demonstration. This behavior of /secure isn't a bug; it's a feature -- that's exactly what /secure is defined to do and it's the only thing that /secure does. If the server does not offer the PLAIN or LOGIN SASL methods, then no, Pine will *not* fall back to the LOGIN command. Part of the design of the SASL architecture that is OK to fall back to a different SASL authenticator, but not to a pre-SASL method. Put another way, a pre-SASL method may be used only if it is impossible to attempt any form of SASL authentication; that is, if the server offers no SASL mechanism that is known to the client. In some protocols (e.g. SMTP and ACAP) SASL is the *only* method of authentication, and as noted above the tendency in the Internet standards process is to depreciate the pre-SASL methods such as the IMAP LOGIN In conclusion, either Eric has configured Pine not to fallback to plaintext (by using /secure), or his server is configured not to permit fallback to plaintext (by not offering the LOGIN and/or PLAIN SASL mechanisms). Either way, Pine can not override this configuration. If you think about it, you'd understand why it can't. -- Mark -- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5L6PAD05052 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:25:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Wed Jun 20 23:25:07 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5L6P6C21454; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:25:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5L6Onp34106; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:24:49 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5L6Mo062928 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:22:50 -0700 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (ref@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5L6MoX05542 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:22:50 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 23:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: kerberos and openssl conflicts? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chris Drumgoole X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 20 Jun 2001, Chris Drumgoole wrote: > 1. upgrade kerberos to 1.1 or 1.2, > 2. change the name of kerberos's libcrypto to libk5crypto > 3. extract all objects from both libcryptos, and make one libcrypto > > As pine is and will be our preferred/supported unix email client, can I > assume that one or all of these fixes will allow pine to work? Either (1) or (2) will work. I've done both. I don't know about (3), and given the amount of work involved I wouldn't consider it. -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:41:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LBfbD28087 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 21 04:41:35 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LBfZu05744; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:41:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LBfIX18516; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:41:18 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LBeX099956 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:40:33 -0700 Received: from pivsbh2.ms.com (pivsbh2.ms.com [199.89.64.104]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LBeWX02784 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 04:40:33 -0700 Received: from pivsbh2-idmz.ms.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pivsbh2.ms.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 43A7C1CA9; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sasmh4.ms.com (unknown [144.14.193.5]) by pivsbh2-idmz.ms.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B04E1C99; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:40:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MorganStanley.com ([172.26.65.11]) by sasmh4.ms.com (8.8.5/imap+ldap v2.4) with ESMTP id HAA14833; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3B31DDC2.78A93238@MorganStanley.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:42:58 -0400 Reply-To: Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eric Hagberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Mark Crispin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I haven't configured pine not to fallback. The server doesn't offer other SASL methods. Either way, pine can't do what I want it to today, without my changing the code, which I have done (2 lines). If I had control over the imap server (it is a 1.6.x Cyrus server), then perhaps I could do something about it, but I don't. Mark Crispin wrote: > In conclusion, either Eric has configured Pine not to fallback to plaintext > (by using /secure), or his server is configured not to permit fallback to > plaintext (by not offering the LOGIN and/or PLAIN SASL mechanisms). Either > way, Pine can not override this configuration. If you think about it, you'd > understand why it can't. > > -- Mark -- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:09:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LJ9aD16821 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:09:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 21 12:09:34 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LJ9Yu20778; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:09:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LJ9Gp33106; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:09:16 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LJ7Q068662 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:07:26 -0700 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (thwang@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LJ7Ps07698 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:07:26 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 11:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext In-Reply-To: <3B31DDC2.78A93238@MorganStanley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Sender: Mark Crispin X-To: Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 07:42:58 -0400, Eric Hagberg wrote: > I haven't configured pine not to fallback. The server doesn't offer other > SASL methods. If the server does not offer a plaintext SASL method, then someone made the decision not to allow plaintext authentication with a SASL-capable client. That someone may be the server management, the guy who built the server, or the server vendor. The important point is that there *IS* a way in the SASL protocol for the server to declare a policy of fallthough to plaintext authentication if secure authentication fails. This is distinct from the way to declare a policy of fallthrough to pre-SASL authentication if the client does not support any of the SASL methods. For whatever reason, the server is doing the latter policy but not the former policy. Pine is doing its job by properly implementing the server's declared policy. > Either way, pine can't do what I want it to today, without my changing the > code, which I have done (2 lines).' In effect, you have deliberately introduced a bug into Pine to ignore the server's declared policy. You need to be aware that you have done this; and that if the issue of Pine's non-compliance with policy comes up, it is because of your local change. Please remember to change the version number of Pine to have the "L" suffix, in accordance with the the Pine license, so that it is clear that this version of Pine has been locally modified. Such labelling is particularly important when sites tamper with security policy. When security incidents occur, people have a tendency to forget that it happened because they disabled a security facility that would have prevented it. "Convenience" is the cause of a great many security incidents, and it's also a cause of amnesia when talk turn on "who to blame". > If I had control over the imap server (it is a 1.6.x > Cyrus server), then perhaps I could do something about it, but I don't. If you don't have control over the server, then perhaps you aren't authorized to override a policy that was decided by the server's management? If the server's management isn't aware that they have done this, perhaps you need to discuss this with them? From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:42:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LJgLD31461 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:42:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 21 12:42:20 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LJgJu22122; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:42:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LJg3X07808; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:42:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LJfI0109084 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:41:18 -0700 Received: from hqvsbh1.ms.com (hqvsbh1-x0.ms.com [205.228.12.101]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LJfIs16766 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:41:18 -0700 Received: from hqvsbh1-idmz.ms.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hqvsbh1.ms.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A22820485; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sasmh4.ms.com (unknown [144.14.193.5]) by hqvsbh1-idmz.ms.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED69204A6; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from morganstanley.com (saitpc925.morgan.com [144.14.15.211]) by sasmh4.ms.com (8.8.5/imap+ldap v2.4) with ESMTP id PAA29965; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:41:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3B324DDE.709568FF@morganstanley.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:41:18 -0400 Reply-To: Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eric Hagberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Mark Crispin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en,ja X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Strange that if I compiled pine with no kerberos support, then it would just use plain text login. But you are saying that if I have compiled in kerberos support and cause failure of that SASL method to fall back to a non-SASL method, then I am doing something wrong. Given the fact that a non-SASL-aware IMAP client can happily use the non-SASL method for authentication, I don't see what is so wrong about allowing such fallthough after the usable SASL methods have been exhausted. Mark Crispin wrote: > In effect, you have deliberately introduced a bug into Pine to ignore the > server's declared policy. You need to be aware that you have done this; and > that if the issue of Pine's non-compliance with policy comes up, it is because > of your local change. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:57:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LKvmD25932 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 21 13:57:46 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LKvkC14511; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:57:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LKvGH29920; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:57:16 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LKtn082212 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:55:50 -0700 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (dhack@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LKtns05295 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 13:55:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 12:43:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext In-Reply-To: <3B324DDE.709568FF@morganstanley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII X-Sender: Mark Crispin X-To: Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:41:18 -0400, Eric Hagberg wrote: > Strange that if I compiled pine with no kerberos support, then it would just > use plain text login. As I said in my previous two messages, there are two types of fallback: 1) fallback to pre-SASL LOGIN because the client and server do not have any mutually-recognizable SASL methods. 2) fallback to a SASL plaintext method, because a secure SASL method failed. These are completely independent of each other. There is separate protocol to declare the availability of each type of fallback policy. There is no such thing as "fallback to pre-SASL LOGIN because a secure SASL method failed." If the server policy allows a fallback to plaintext because a secure method failed, it will offer SASL plaintext as per fallback of type (2) above. This provides the functionality of "fallback to plaintext" without the harm of crossing the SASL/pre-SASL barrier. I will demonstrate that harm later in this message. Also as I stated before, your server is declaring that: . fallback of type (1) is permitted, because it does not prohibit the pre-SASL LOGIN command. . fallback of type (2) is not permitted, because no SASL plaintext method is offered. > But you are saying that if I have compiled in kerberos support > and cause failure of that SASL method to fall back to a non-SASL method, > then I am doing something wrong. Yes, I am. That is not a permitted fallback. It is harmful. Here's why. I realize that the following is difficult to follow. It's a lot to absorb, and it summarizes the accumulated wisdom of many years of hard knocks (as in "been there, done that, got the T-shirt"). The reason is that a site may wish to allow the limited use of a known insecure client, and thus not disable pre-SASL LOGIN. Thus, the site allows fallback of type (1). At the same time, the site wishes to require that known secure clients, such as Pine, never transmit plaintext passwords. Thus, the site disallows fallback of type (2). This is a common configuration, particularly in a transition to a fully secure environment which prohibits all use of plaintext passwords. This transitional configuration allows temporary ongoing use of insecure clients while guaranteeing password confidentiality to users of secure clients. Consider what happens if users of BlurdybloopMail are told to switch to Pine because BlurdybloopMail does not have secure authentication. With the hacked Pine, these users may still be using insecure authentication without knowing it. It works for them during the transition period. They think they are fine because they switched to Pine. The trap closes when the server disables plaintext authentication. Suddenly, they're completely cut off. Their opportunity to remedy the problem during the transition was lost; they never knew they had a problem. Similarly, management was deceived into believing that it could complete the transition. Now they have a major disaster on their hands. > Given the fact that a non-SASL-aware IMAP client can happily use the > non-SASL method for authentication, I don't see what is so wrong about > allowing such fallthough after the usable SASL methods have been exhausted. What is wrong is that the hack breaks the guarantee that Pine, set by your site's server policies, that SASL-capable Pine will not transmit a plaintext password. At random, and without server authorization, the hacked Pine will transmit plaintext passwords. There is no way to stop the hacked Pine from transmitting plaintext passwords without disabling all plaintext passwords. This breaks the ability of site management to have a graceful security transition. If you want Pine to be able to transmit plaintext passwords, the change to make is in server policy; allow plaintext SASL methods. The bottom line is that the hack choses short-term convenience over long-term requirements. My advice is to eschew short-term convenience; its benefits are fleeting, and dire punishment awaits those who disregard the long-term. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LLSdD15613 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:28:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 21 14:28:37 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LLSbC15689; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:28:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LLRjX07778; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:27:45 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LLJC0120688 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:19:12 -0700 Received: from hqvsbh2.ms.com (hqvsbh2.ms.com [205.228.12.104]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LLJBX12928 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 14:19:11 -0700 Received: from hqvsbh2-idmz.ms.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hqvsbh2.ms.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 4EB1F1B0F; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sasmh4.ms.com (unknown [144.14.193.5]) by hqvsbh2-idmz.ms.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F95A18A0; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from morganstanley.com (saitpc925.morgan.com [144.14.15.211]) by sasmh4.ms.com (8.8.5/imap+ldap v2.4) with ESMTP id RAA25920; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:19:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3B3264CD.1F514A8E@morganstanley.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:19:09 -0400 Reply-To: Eric.Hagberg@morganstanley.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eric Hagberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------1902F354210201288DD54470" X-To: Mark Crispin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en,ja X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1902F354210201288DD54470 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark Crispin wrote: > What is wrong is that the hack breaks the guarantee that Pine, set by your > site's server policies, that SASL-capable Pine will not transmit a plaintext > password. At random, and without server authorization, the hacked Pine will > transmit plaintext passwords. There is no way to stop the hacked Pine from > transmitting plaintext passwords without disabling all plaintext passwords. > This breaks the ability of site management to have a graceful security > transition. > > If you want Pine to be able to transmit plaintext passwords, the change to > make is in server policy; allow plaintext SASL methods. The people who run the server have no intention of recompiling it or making changes to it at this time, which would be necessary to change the server policy. Since the group that runs the server in fact asked me to "fix" pine so that it would work for people even if kerberos auth failed, I feel that my change is a reasonable solution. When the new server is being tested, I will be the one they'll come to to "fix" pine again so that it works smoothly with their new backend, at which time I'll try to make sure they make the right decisions regarding the authentication setup. Thanks, -Eric --------------1902F354210201288DD54470 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="Eric.Hagberg.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Eric Hagberg Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Eric.Hagberg.vcf" begin:vcard n:Hagberg;Eric x-mozilla-html:FALSE org:Morgan Stanley;Information Technology adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:Eric.Hagberg@MorganStanley.com title:Vice President fn:Eric C. Hagberg end:vcard --------------1902F354210201288DD54470-- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:11:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LMBVD12853 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 21 15:11:20 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LMBKu28186; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:11:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5LMB4p27108; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:11:04 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LM8A0122786 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:08:11 -0700 Received: from Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (tbl@tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.58]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5LM8As26951 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:08:10 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 15:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mark Crispin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: fail back from auth method to plaintext In-Reply-To: <3B3264CD.1F514A8E@morganstanley.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eric Hagberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It really does sound like you have no choice. But do yourself (or your successor) a favor and keep good notes about what you did and why, as well as the information I gave you. Hopefully it'll be as you say, and you'll get to straighten things out and do the right thing while it's all fresh in your mind. But hacks have a way of lasting longer than anyone intended... [Sad experience here] Good luck! -- Mark -- http://staff.washington.edu/mrc Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:43:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5M0h6D14418 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 21 17:43:05 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5M0h4u00944; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:43:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5M0glE10180; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:42:48 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5M0fq042012 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:41:52 -0700 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (IDENT:root@nimbus.anzio.com [204.201.253.34]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5M0fpK03664 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:41:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5M0e4819528 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:40:04 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 17:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Problem with display filters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In Pine on Unix (up through 4.22), if I have a display filter set up, and I print to "attached-to-ansi", I get some extra garbage in my print job. Further analysis reveals that the "dfilter" routine does a ClearScreen both before and after running the filter. But the printer is already open, so the codes to clear screen end up going to the printer. This is bad. It would appear that this would be fixed by not doing a ClearScreen (it is not done in the Windows version), but what else would this break? Any examples of uses of display filters? Regards, ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5M1nFD20519 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Thu Jun 21 18:49:14 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5M1nDC24148; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:49:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5M1muE14646; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:48:56 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5M1mC0114762 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:48:13 -0700 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (IDENT:root@nimbus.anzio.com [204.201.253.34]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5M1mCs12522 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:48:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f5M1kPE19951 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:46:25 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2001 18:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Multilingual (Unicode) Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have succeeded in making Pine (on Unix) output various charsets of incoming messages as Unicode UTF-8, and am offering this description for others who might be interested. This technique makes use of the "iconv" utility, which is included in many Linux distributions, and freely available. For our purposes, it will take data in a variety of charsets and translate it to UTF-8. Here are the steps: 1. In Pine's configuration, set up display-filters for various charsets, such as: _charset(big5)_ ~/viewutf8 big5 2. In your home directory, create a shell script "viewutf8" with the single line: iconv --from-code=$1 --to-code=utf-8 3. As per my earlier-today message, a display filter interferes with "attached" printing. You can solve this by using an outside program to handle passthrough printing. My 'passthru' program (available on web site below) will do this, but you must tell it to send its output to /dev/tty, so it doesn't go back into Pine. Create a printer (in Pine) with the command passthru > /dev/tty This combination succeeds in outputting both display data and passthrough print data in UTF-8, so accents, Russian, Chinese, etc. are correct. Assuming your display/printing device can handle this. Some Linux consoles, and some Xterm programs, can display data received as UTF-8. We also have a Windows telnet client (Anzio Lite and AnzioWin) that can display data received in UTF-8. AnzioWin can also passthru-print such data. See web site for details. Regards, ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:46:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5MBIWD24882 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 04:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 22 02:47:26 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5M9lQu12196; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:47:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5M9kxE30548; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:47:00 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5M9j9081750 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:45:09 -0700 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5M9j9K06360 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:45:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@shell13.ba.best.com [206.184.139.144]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id CAA08578; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 02:44:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2001 10:47:36 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: PINE 4.33, Exchange, and IMAP logins not matching From/Return address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Jay Libove X-X-Sender: nancy@imap.iecc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 20 Jun 2001 Jay Libove (libove@felines.org) wrote: > Ahhh, I see - it REALLY is hidden -- that is, the configuration > wizard in PINE itself won't show it. I manually added it to > the feature list in the PC PINE pinerc file, added a From: > header to the custom headers list, restarted PINE, and away I > go, happy. > > (I got some help from the pine-info archive, where one single > message obliquely mentioned this feature without providing > directions as to its use). > > [ deleted ] > >> From: Emil Isberg [mailto:emil.isberg@mds.mdh.se] >> The hidden feature allow-changing-from changes so that you may set your >> From: line again. >> >> You just have to open your pinerc to add that line... >> And then ofcourse add "From: Name " to customized-hdrs. The problems you had figuring this out are related to my #1 and #2 Pine wishes, which you can read here: In the latest Pine (4.33), allow-changing-from defaults to on so users no longer have to manually add that to their feature-list (unless their sys admin has set it default to off) but I'd still like to see my wish #1 and #2 incorporated into Pine. The first thing I do when I walk someone through setting up a new Pine is run it once so it creates a pinerc file and then close pine and open the pinerc file with a text editor and change this feature-list= to this feature-list=expose-hidden-config Then I fire up Pine again and go to Main> Setup> Config (MSC) and walk the person through all the configuration settings, including the hidden ones! If I'm setting a new Pine up for myself, I just copy my pine.conf, pinerc, and pinercex files and edit the pinercex file so it is correct for the current system. I talk about this at my "Compartmentalizing and Sharing Your Pine Settings", which is here: ^X, Nancy posted & cc'd Infinite Ink (ii) Main Pine Page: -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink =Sent via Pine 4.39.9: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/Mac OS X= From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:29:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5MJTCD27755 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Fri Jun 22 12:29:06 2001 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5MJT5C18129; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:29:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5MJSiH07774; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:28:44 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5MJRu046246 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:27:56 -0700 Received: from alpha.marmoset.net (root@alpha.marmoset.net [204.255.229.162]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5MJRuX17174 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 12:27:56 -0700 Received: (from devo-x@localhost) by alpha.marmoset.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f5MJSCQ22853; Fri, 22 Jun 2001 15:28:12 -0400 Message-Id: <200106221928.f5MJSCQ22853@alpha.marmoset.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jun 101 15:28:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: DIGITAL UNIX USER To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: --TECHNICAL DIFFERENCES-- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Cc: devo-x@alpha.marmoset.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN 06.22.2001 A Quick Question: What are the "Technical" distinctions between Kreberos & SSH? Thanks--Any advice is appreicated. NOSPAM: -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:35:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5O3ZBD13734 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sat Jun 23 20:35:10 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5O3Z9u03355; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:35:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5O3YSE23362; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:34:28 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5O3WU0109232 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:32:30 -0700 Received: from mx0.gmx.net (mx0.gmx.net [213.165.64.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5O3WTs23446 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:32:30 -0700 Received: (qmail 15552 invoked by uid 0); 24 Jun 2001 03:32:28 -0000 Message-Id: <5575.993353548@www20.gmx.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 05:32:28 +0200 (MEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Marc Owen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 'sender'-checks by mailservers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Authenticated-Sender: #0001550623@gmx.net X-Authenticated-IP: [213.132.151.1] X-Flags: 0001 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN 'lo, I've had many bounces ('unresolvable host', etc) from several servers, and after tracing the problem, it seemed those mailservers checked the existance of the domain in the 'sender'-tag. This field is set by pine to the default system domain, and is readonly; not customized header can be set for it. This makes it impossible to send mails for me (and others, I presume) to several servers from home, since I don't have a domainname or static internet connection. I understand the moral issue behind the idea not allowing the tag to be changed, but still I think maybe this should be reconsidered; users are only left with 3 choices: - I can set my (fictious) domainname to something that actually exist, thereby 'hijacking' somebody's domain and making it look like the mail originated from that domain; this will make sending possible, but totally defeats the point of making the variable read-only. - I can ignore it, and try to live that more and more mailsystems bounce my mail because of my fictious domain name. - I can rewrite the code and patch it, so the sender-tag won't be added /isn't readonly anymore. I chose this option (I have some programming knowledge, but most people don't). Maybe it's wise to include a compile-time option (alot like allow-changing-local-from) that allows this for dailup (dynamic ip) users, and to mention this in the documentation somewhere (it took a while for me to know the exact cause). Night, Marc. -- Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:34:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5P4YND20991 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Sun Jun 24 21:34:22 2001 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5P4YLC17843; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:34:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5P4XVp20164; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:33:31 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5P4UP038382 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:30:25 -0700 Received: from khan.peak.org (IDENT:root@khan.peak.org [198.88.144.26]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5P4UOs30556 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:30:24 -0700 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by khan.peak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA13452 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:30:24 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 00:30:17 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Timothy Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 'sender'-checks by mailservers In-Reply-To: <5575.993353548@www20.gmx.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: luomat@peak.org X-NOTE: Plussed address but NOT set to remail X-Note: tjl-rma X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Marc Owen wrote: > I've had many bounces ('unresolvable host', etc) from several servers, and > after tracing the problem, it seemed those mailservers checked the existance > of the domain in the 'sender'-tag. This field is set by pine to the default > system domain, and is readonly; not customized header can be set for it. This > makes it impossible to send mails for me (and others, I presume) to several > servers from home, since I don't have a domainname or static internet > connection. If this is the case, it is a really bad misuse of the 'Sender' field... not that THAT's anything new, since people have been abusing that field for some time now. > - I can rewrite the code and patch it, so the sender-tag won't be added > /isn't readonly anymore. I chose this option (I have some programming knowledge, > but most people don't). Yup, that's what I've been doing since around 3.96 or so, when I started having problems with the Sender: field for various reasons. It's a problem with PC-PINE though, since there's no code to hack. TjL From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:58:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5PBwQD20163 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:58:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx2.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 25 04:58:25 2001 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5PBwJC25872; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:58:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5PBvjE17072; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:57:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5PBt50114838 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:55:09 -0700 Received: from panther4c.felines.org ([209.124.87.82]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5PBssF19161 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 04:55:04 -0700 Received: from reset.felines.org (reset.felines.org [209.124.87.83]) by panther4c.felines.org (8.11.2/8.8.7) with ESMTP id f5PBsrR13370 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:54:53 -0400 Received: by reset.felines.org with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:54:53 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:54:41 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jay Libove To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: 'sender'-checks by mailservers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am using PC PINE 4.33 with the allow-changing-from feature enabled and the From: header customized, and my copy of PC PINE (stock, downloaded from U Washington) does not set a Sender: header. PINE 4.33 on Linux (RedHat RPM) also does not set a Sender: header for me, not even when I set a different Reply-To: header. So please pardon my ignorance, but when does PINE forcibly set a Sender: header? Thanks -Jay -----Original Message----- From: Timothy Luoma [mailto:luomat+lists+pine@peak.org] Sent: Monday, June 25, 2001 12:30 AM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 'sender'-checks by mailservers On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Marc Owen wrote: > I've had many bounces ('unresolvable host', etc) from several servers, and > after tracing the problem, it seemed those mailservers checked the existance > of the domain in the 'sender'-tag. This field is set by pine to the default > system domain, and is readonly; not customized header can be set for it. This > makes it impossible to send mails for me (and others, I presume) to several > servers from home, since I don't have a domainname or static internet > connection. If this is the case, it is a really bad misuse of the 'Sender' field... not that THAT's anything new, since people have been abusing that field for some time now. > - I can rewrite the code and patch it, so the sender-tag won't be added > /isn't readonly anymore. I chose this option (I have some programming knowledge, > but most people don't). Yup, that's what I've been doing since around 3.96 or so, when I started having problems with the Sender: field for various reasons. It's a problem with PC-PINE though, since there's no code to hack. TjL From pinedev@shivax.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(12) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from newman.cac.washington.edu (newman.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.4]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5PEgvD14980 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: FROM mx1.cac.washington.edu BY newman.cac.washington.edu ; Mon Jun 25 07:42:55 2001 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5PEgsu09056; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:42:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with SMTP id f5PEgLX08024; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:42:21 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5PEeD086436 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:40:13 -0700 Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (root@proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.11.2+UW01.01/8.11.2+UW01.04) with ESMTP id f5PEe9F07293 for ; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:40:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@shell13.ba.best.com [206.184.139.144]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with ESMTP id HAA12796; Mon, 25 Jun 2001 07:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:42:24 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: 'sender'-checks by mailservers In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Jay Libove X-X-Sender: nm@operamail.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If you uncheck this feature in your feature list [ ] use-sender-not-x-sender Pine will not put a Sender header in messages you send. Instead Unix Pine will use an X-Sender header and PC-Pine will use an X-X-Sender header. Unfortunately, some spammers grab addresses from these headers so the only way to protect yourself is to patch the source. I have a link to TjL's no-sender patch on my main Pine page and if I find out about any other ways to get around this, I'll post the info on my site. As TjL said, PC-Pine users are out of luck and w.r.t. removing *Sender headers. You can kind of get around it by doing the following three things: 1] put bogus info in your default From header and always use a role when composing a message 2] set your default inbox-path to a throwaway account (e.g., I use my operamail.com account which gets only spam). 3] whenever you post to a public forum, make sure the currently open mailbox is a throwaway account The Sender, X-Sender, and X-X-Sender headers seem to be constructed from your currently open mailbox or your default From header so that's why doing these 3 things can help to prevent your real private email address from being posted to a public forum. The problem is that inevitably I post to a public forum with one of my private addresses showing up in my X-X-Sender header so this is not a very good solution for me. Another solution for PC users is to use Cygwin Pine and patch the source. ^X, Nancy ii Main Pine Page: -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink = Sent via Pine 4.39.9: IMAP, NNTP & ESMTP for Unix/Win/Mac OS X =