From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 1 11:04:11 1999 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:04:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA02246 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA23421; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:04:08 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA22996; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:03:23 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA45142 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:58:44 -0800 Received: from sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu29955@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.136]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA31433 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:58:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (wc214@localhost) by sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA03111; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:58:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:58:31 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Wendy Cincotta To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Block sender In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: wc214@columbia.edu X-To: Jessica Rasku X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a feature on Pine to block unwanted mail from a sender? On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > > > Sounds like a feature. :) Does disable-keymenu disable the bottom two > > lines that tell you what to press? I would think you wouldn't want > > ignorant users (like most the 40,000+ Pine users here at the UW are) > > disabling that and not knowing what to do... > > If you really think that it is something that you don't want > changed, you can put it in the pine.conf.fixed file, and make it not > configurable. I would say that it's not something worth making not > configurable. People who want to do it, can get quite irate when certian > features are no longer avalable... > > Jessica > > -- > Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, > LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. > > List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca > send command help ---- To get help with majordomo > or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. > > WWW: > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 1 11:08:39 1999 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:08:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA00121 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA23564; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:08:35 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA23351; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:08:14 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA47314 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:58:59 -0800 Received: from sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu29955@sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.136]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA31491; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 10:58:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (wc214@localhost) by sawasdee.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA03265; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:58:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:58:57 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Wendy Cincotta To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disable-keymenu ... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: wc214@columbia.edu X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a feature on Pine to block unwanted mail from a sender? On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > Sounds like a feature. :) Does disable-keymenu disable the bottom two > lines that tell you what to press? I would think you wouldn't want > ignorant users (like most the 40,000+ Pine users here at the UW are) > disabling that and not knowing what to do... > > -- > Scott Leibrand > leibrand@u.washington.edu > * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * > * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * > > On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > > > ... is no longer listed in the Pine Configuration Screen feature-list. > > It does work if you add it manually to your pinerc so it seems to have > > become a hidden feature. Is this a bug or feature? > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 1 11:14:46 1999 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:14:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA27569 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA23799; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:14:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA03534; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:13:39 -0800 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA33216 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:01:58 -0800 Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA20358 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:01:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA58202 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:01:56 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:01:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: mail blocking In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Wendy Cincotta wrote: > > Is there a feature on Pine to block unwanted mail from a sender? > Not in Pine. You have to use another program like procmail or mailfilt. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 1 11:20:59 1999 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:20:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA02139 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA02351; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:20:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA05009; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:19:36 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA33094 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:11:10 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA07648 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 11:11:10 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-mod-for-majordomo) with ESMTP id OAA16264; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:11:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:11:02 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Block sender In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Wendy Cincotta X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Wendy Cincotta wrote: > Is there a feature on Pine to block unwanted mail from a sender? man procmail Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:51:26 -0500 From: Ken Woods Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: email blocking On Tue, 29 Dec 1998, naftali wrote: > I am using pine regularly, and so I want a script for filtering out users > incorporated with pine and not external. > Basically it should work like that : > I compile a list of domains and users I want not to be able to send email > to me, and it either deletes them as soon as it gets the mail from them or > doesn't let the message get through the mail port at all. > Is there such pine option or script? > if so tell me how to make it or give me a copy of one. > thanks in advance OK folks, here it is. o This is a procmail file, or recipe. o This is how to filter mail. o You put this file in your home directory. o This is used to filter email. o This file is called ".procmailrc" o One could use this to filter email. o Do not use the "'s o Filtering email is the art of putting things in different places for the ease of reading them. o This is from one of my machines. You cannot simply cut and past everything from my machine to yours and expect it to work. o People use things JUST LIKE THIS ONE to filter email. o You have to do some research on YOUR system to make this work correctly on YOUR system. The dotted line is not included in the file. Remove the dotted line. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - PATH=$HOME/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb:/bin:/opt/local/bin:. MAILDIR=/where/you/want/your/mail/stored DEFAULT=/where/incoming/mail/is/stored LOGFILE=/home/username/logfile :0: * ^From:.*nameofperson@their.isp.com /home/kwoods/mail/nameoffolderwhereyouwanttheirmailtogo :0: * ^From:.*somebodythat@you.do.not.want.to.get.mail.from.com /dev/null - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Press the delete key until there are no more "-" in the line above. Again, remove the dotted line. Set MAILDIR to wherever your want your mail stored. You CAN _NOT_ use the ~username/mail syntax. The full path MUST be spelled out, ie, /home/kwoods/mail Set DEFAULT to wherever the incoming mail is stored. most likely, /var/mail/username, or /var/spool/mail/username The LOGFILE is a log, or record, of what procmail is doing with the mail. Useful for troubleshooting. Again, spell out the full path. This file will get VERY BIG, VERY quickly. Remember to delete is every once in a while. Now, if you've gotten this far, and you still need help, go to http:///www.r-t-f-m.com and go fuck yourself. I've helped you as much as I can. -- Ken Woods kwoods@kens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 1 12:16:44 1999 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:16:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA27911 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:16:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA04185; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:16:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA28422; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:16:19 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA13056 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:11:59 -0800 Received: from physis.viper.net (IDENT:stick@physis.viper.net [207.13.5.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA11939 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 12:11:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (stick@localhost) by physis.viper.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id OAA02693; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:07:15 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 14:07:13 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris MacLeod To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Block sender In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Wendy Cincotta X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: stick@physis.viper.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Check out procmail it rocks the house for doing any sort of preprocessing of mail if you don't have access to your mail server. Stick On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Wendy Cincotta wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 13:58:31 -0500 (EST) > From: Wendy Cincotta > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Block sender > > > Is there a feature on Pine to block unwanted mail from a sender? > > > On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > > On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > > > > > Sounds like a feature. :) Does disable-keymenu disable the bottom two > > > lines that tell you what to press? I would think you wouldn't want > > > ignorant users (like most the 40,000+ Pine users here at the UW are) > > > disabling that and not knowing what to do... > > > > If you really think that it is something that you don't want > > changed, you can put it in the pine.conf.fixed file, and make it not > > configurable. I would say that it's not something worth making not > > configurable. People who want to do it, can get quite irate when certian > > features are no longer avalable... > > > > Jessica > > > > -- > > Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, > > LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. > > > > List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca > > send command help ---- To get help with majordomo > > or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. > > > > WWW: > > > > > > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ stick@physis.viper.net Chris MacLeod Web Systems Administrator www.miscellaneous.net With blue, uncertain, stumbling buzz, Between the light and me, And then the windows failed, and then I could not see to see. -Emily Dickenson "I Heard A Fly Buzz When I Died" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Beware the penguins..." -Morphy GNUpgp Public key Available - finger physis@miscellaneous.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Apr 1 15:18:30 1999 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:18:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA02875 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:18:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA09317; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:18:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA09614; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:17:46 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA33272 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:11:40 -0800 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA03357 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:11:40 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA19079; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 23:15:53 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Thu, 1 Apr 99 15:15 PST Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA20550; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:02:38 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:02:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Block sender In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chris MacLeod X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Chris MacLeod wrote: > Check out procmail it rocks the house for doing any sort of preprocessing > of mail if you don't have access to your mail server. And if you have access to the mail server? Is there a reason not to use procmail? Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 2 01:46:34 1999 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:46:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA15672 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:46:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA20498; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:46:28 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id BAA10316; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:46:09 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA14972 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:41:42 -0800 Received: from mail.iex.net (mail.iex.net [192.156.196.5]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA26503 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 01:41:38 -0800 Received: from janeway.plaidranch.org (IDENT:root@plaidranch.org [209.151.69.19]) by mail.iex.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA27473 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 02:35:47 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:manuka@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by janeway.plaidranch.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27357 for ; Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:38:38 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 19:38:37 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ian Hall-Beyer To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Block sender In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: manuka@janeway.plaidranch.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > And if you have access to the mail server? Is there a reason not > to use procmail? Well, you can always block it at the MTA if you have access to it. :) But you can still use procmail if you wish, we're certainly not going to stop you. I've found that my spam went way down once I implemented RBL and some other spam measures, added some additional anti-spam stuff in procmail, and lastly, unsubscribed from linux-kernel :) My spam levels are now near zero. -Ian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 2 17:23:43 1999 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:23:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA32243 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:23:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA08050; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:23:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA23387; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:23:16 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA16752 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:18:08 -0800 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA14230 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:18:07 -0800 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1751"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9KJKEAY8U0022T9@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:17:56 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:16:53 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: print error msg suggestion MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@mail1.new-york.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In Unix Pine if you type % to print and then decide you don't want to print, you get this message: [Print cancelled] In PC-Pine you get this message: [Error starting print job: User canceled] It's not really an "error" that you decided not to print so I suggest changing the PC-Pine message to be the same as the Unix Pine message. Thanks, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 2 17:40:25 1999 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:40:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA28738 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA26911; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:40:21 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA24747; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:40:07 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA39888 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:35:49 -0800 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA22281 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 17:35:48 -0800 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1755"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9KK7A44BY0022T9@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:35:37 -0500 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 20:34:34 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pruned folder suggestion MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@mail1.new-york.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The pruned-folder variable does two things: 1] Pine will offer to move the contents of the folder to a new folder of the same name but with the previous month's date appended. 2] Pine will then look for any such date-appended folder names created for a previous month, and offer each one it finds for deletion. (this is excerpted from the Pine help) It would be great if there were a way to do #1 but not do #2. -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Apr 2 22:06:37 1999 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:06:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA01870 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:06:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA11892; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:06:32 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA00672; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:06:13 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA36600 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:02:23 -0800 Received: from sos.sos.net (root@sos.net [209.20.224.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA21800 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:02:23 -0800 Received: from 386 (sos-dialup70.nwlink.com [209.20.225.70]) by sos.sos.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA19617 for ; Fri, 2 Apr 1999 22:02:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 21:55:52 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pruned folder suggestion MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: leibrand@leibrand.deskmail.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yeah, add my vote for this feature, too. It's especially annoying that I have to reject the delete-old-folders thing on every copy of Pine or PC-Pine I use. Thanks, -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On 2 Apr 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > The pruned-folder variable does two things: > > 1] Pine will offer to move the contents of the folder to a new folder > of the same name but with the previous month's date appended. > > 2] Pine will then look for any such date-appended folder names created > for a previous month, and offer each one it finds for deletion. > > (this is excerpted from the Pine help) > > > It would be great if there were a way to do #1 but not do #2. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 5 06:07:42 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:07:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA04791 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA20646; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:07:39 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id GAA20425; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:07:18 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA13296 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:03:00 -0700 Received: from physis.viper.net (IDENT:stick@physis.viper.net [207.13.5.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA26122 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 06:02:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (stick@localhost) by physis.viper.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id HAA00048; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 07:58:22 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris MacLeod To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Block sender In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jessica Rasku X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: stick@physis.viper.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Depends, procmail will let you do things at the user level so you or your users can customize. But also the best you can do is preprocess spam and throw it away (a recipe moving it to /dev/null). On the mailserver (sendmail at least) you can have it send a response back to the user saying 550 error and some message or some things like that. There is just a little more control at the mailserver level as far as spam goes. Plus if you filter it out at the MTA it never hits your machine wheras procmail has to receive it first then do something with it. STick On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:02:37 -0800 (PST) > From: Jessica Rasku > To: Chris MacLeod > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: Block sender > > On Thu, 1 Apr 1999, Chris MacLeod wrote: > > > Check out procmail it rocks the house for doing any sort of preprocessing > > of mail if you don't have access to your mail server. > > And if you have access to the mail server? Is there a reason not > to use procmail? > > Jessica > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ stick@physis.viper.net Chris MacLeod Web Systems Administrator www.miscellaneous.net With blue, uncertain, stumbling buzz, Between the light and me, And then the windows failed, and then I could not see to see. -Emily Dickenson "I Heard A Fly Buzz When I Died" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Beware the penguins..." -Morphy GNUpgp Public key Available - finger physis@miscellaneous.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 5 11:35:26 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:35:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA05566 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:35:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA29150; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:35:22 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA16768; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:34:00 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA13478 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:29:51 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA09029 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:29:50 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1297"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9OEADSKSI002946@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:29:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:28:23 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: moving from folder list to collection list MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@mail1.new-york.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In my Pine feature list, I've got these settings (along with a lot of other settings): [ ] single-column-folder-list [X] vertical-folder-list [X] enable-arrow-navigation [X] enable-arrow-navigation-relaxed I'm happy to be able to use the left and right arrow keys to move around my folder list so I don't want to change these settings. Unfortunately, I'm now so used to moving through the Pine screens using the left and right arrows that it drives me nuts when I try to use LEFT to move from a folder list to my collection list and it doesn't work. To me, it is unintuitive and painful to type less-than (<) or comma (,) to do this. My request is that some variation of the left arrow key also work to move me from a folder list to my collection list -- maybe SHIFT-LEFT, CTRL-LEFT, or CTRL-SHIFT-LEFT. This would be more intuitive and easier to type since usually my finger is already on the LEFT key (from just having tried to use it). Another request is that typing L on a folder list screen would move me to my collection list screen. Right now when I type L on a folder list screen I get this message: [Command "l" not defined for this screen. Use ? for help] Since typing L on the main menu, moves me to the collection list screen, it seems reasonable to expect it to do the same throughout Pine. Thanks, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 5 12:09:24 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA11935 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:09:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA30225; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:09:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA17971; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:58:07 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA13332 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:54:02 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA04569 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 11:54:01 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1302"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9OF4MGIBW002AM3@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:53:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 14:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: in point of, concerning, about MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@mail1.new-york.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When a message arrives in either the inbox or the current folder, Pine displays a status message that says something lie: [New mail! From NAME concerning SUBJECT] [Mail saved to folder "FOLDER-NAME" From NAME in point of SUBJECT] What I'm wondering is what is the logic behind the use of the words concerning in point of about etc. And why do you need to distinguish between "New mail!" and "Mail saved..." For someone who uses procmail (like me), a lot of the time that I get the "Mail saved..." message it is in fact for *new* mail. It seems to me that they should all use the same wording. My suggestion is to use something like this: [Msg saved to FOLDER-NAME From NAME about SUBJECT] For example: [Msg saved to in-pine-info From Nancy McGough about in point of, concerning, about] Another Example: [Msg saved to INBOX From Spammer about Make Money] Just some suggestions.... Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 5 12:31:53 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA11143 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA30962; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:31:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA19886; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:31:29 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA36454 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:27:36 -0700 Received: from ciao.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu29955@ciao.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.11]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA17994 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:27:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (wc214@localhost) by ciao.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA22456 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:27:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Wendy Cincotta To: Pine Discussion Forum In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: wc214@columbia.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > > Kindly remove my name from the Pine discussion forum list. I have received an answer to my question and do not wish to be receiving ongoing mail from this forum. > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 5 12:44:06 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:44:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA13669 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:44:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA15972; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:44:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA17683; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:42:41 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA38236 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:38:10 -0700 Received: from bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu29955@bonjour.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.59.133]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA32682 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:38:09 -0700 Received: from localhost (wc214@localhost) by bonjour.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA02417 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:38:08 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Wendy Cincotta To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: wc214@columbia.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > > > Kindly remove my name from the Pine discussion forum list. I have > received an answer to my question and do not wish to be receiving ongoing > mail from this forum. > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 5 12:52:11 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:52:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA31384 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:52:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA31611; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:52:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA18440; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:50:46 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA34202 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:44:54 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA00976 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:44:53 -0700 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [209.70.169.2]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3-mod-for-majordomo) with ESMTP id PAA04000; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:44:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:44:50 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Wendy Cincotta X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Look, you stupid bitch, can you not read??? Go to: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ for instructions on how to unsubscribe yourself, and stop sending us the same fucking message over and over. On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Wendy Cincotta wrote: > > > > > > Kindly remove my name from the Pine discussion forum list. I have > > received an answer to my question and do not wish to be receiving ongoing > > mail from this forum. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > -- Ken Woods kwoods@kens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 5 12:57:36 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA13783 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:57:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA31780; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:57:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA21920; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:56:38 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA34708 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:51:45 -0700 Received: from mail.iusb.edu (root@mail.iusb.edu [149.161.1.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA21629 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:51:45 -0700 Received: from oit1.iusb.edu (pmikulak@oit1.iusb.edu [149.161.1.2]) by mail.iusb.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06276 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:51:43 -0500 Received: by oit1.iusb.edu id OAA00806; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:51:43 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:51:43 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Phillip Mikulak To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: .pinerc and imapd MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a (hopefully) simple question regarding using pine as a client to read mail from a unix server running imapd. I would like to somehow send my password along with my username to imap server. I have the following right now: inbox-path={lanmail.iusb.edu:143/user=pmikulak}inbox and this works fine, only prompting me for my password. I have made various attempts to enter the password, but no success. Does anyone know if/how I can also send the password along? Many thanks for any suggestions. Phil Mikulak Indiana University South Bend -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 5 13:03:27 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:03:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA00386 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:03:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA16499; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:03:23 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA19376; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:02:48 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA33524 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:58:57 -0700 Received: from mail.splusnet.com (mail.splusnet.com [216.47.32.26]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA14901 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:58:57 -0700 Received: from splus1.splusnet.com (splus1.splusnet.com [216.47.32.2]) by mail.splusnet.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id PAA15039; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 15:58:49 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Stevens To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ken Woods X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Was THAT really necessary? An Amazon.com associate http://www.splusnet.com/~kstevens On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Ken Woods wrote: > > Look, you stupid bitch, can you not read??? > > Go to: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > for instructions on how to unsubscribe yourself, and stop sending us > the same fucking message over and over. > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Wendy Cincotta wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kindly remove my name from the Pine discussion forum list. I have > > > received an answer to my question and do not wish to be receiving ongoing > > > mail from this forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ken Woods > kwoods@kens.com > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 5 13:35:10 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA03263 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA00368; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:35:05 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA24574; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:34:16 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA44248 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:30:12 -0700 Received: from post5.inre.asu.edu (post5.inre.asu.edu [129.219.110.86]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA19736 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:30:11 -0700 Received: from general3.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.1-12 #24133) with ESMTP id <01J9OCADG8NE8YHSMA@asu.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:32:09 MST Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by general3.asu.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA05543; Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:30:03 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 13:30:02 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: jvan@asu.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ken Woods X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: jvanasu@general3.asu.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Look, you loutish oaf, can you not bore? A footman may swear; but he cannot swear like a lord. He can swear as often: but can he swear with equal delicacy, propriety, and judgment? Jonathan Swift (1667-1745), Anglo-Irish satirist. Polite Conversation, Introduction (1738). ____________________________________________________________________________ On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Ken Woods wrote: > > Look, you stupid bitch, can you not read??? > > Go to: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > for instructions on how to unsubscribe yourself, and stop sending us > the same fucking message over and over. > > > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Wendy Cincotta wrote: > > > > > > > > > Kindly remove my name from the Pine discussion forum list. I have > > > received an answer to my question and do not wish to be receiving ongoing > > > mail from this forum. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Ken Woods > kwoods@kens.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Mon Apr 5 14:29:48 1999 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:29:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA31226 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA02089; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:29:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA15554; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:29:16 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA33098 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:25:19 -0700 Received: from vpsyc.psychology.nottingham.ac.uk (vpsyc.psychology.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.31.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA29117 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:25:18 -0700 Received: from port48.ascend.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk (port48.ascend.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk [128.243.201.112]) by vpsyc.psychology.nottingham.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA15761 for ; Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:25:16 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:24:32 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Peebles To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Index Names MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: root@loopback X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've just installed Pine 4.04 to use with Red Hat Linux 5.1 connecting to a remote mail server using a modem. I have changed the From: header so that all outgoing messages contain my remote email address rather than my local computer name and this works fine. However, when I send a message or postpone writing a message, the files are now saved in the or folders with my name rather than the recipient's name (i.e. the value of the To: header) in the index. This makes reviewing old messages very difficult indeed. Can anyone tell me how to solve this problem? Many thanks in advance, David =================================================================== Dr David Peebles Artificial Intelligence Group, Department of Psychology, University of Nottingham, University Park, Nottingham, NG7 2RD, UK. email: djp@psychology.nottingham.ac.uk tel: 0 115 951 5308 fax: 0 115 951 5324 international: +44 115 951 ---- url: http://www.psychology.nottingham.ac.uk/staff/David.Peebles/ =================================================================== -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 04:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA28306 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 04:59:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA17860; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 04:59:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id EAA12222; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 04:58:18 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA33680 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 04:54:13 -0700 Received: from sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir ([194.225.42.50]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA32412 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 04:53:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (majid@localhost) by sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA00883 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:25:24 +0430 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:25:24 +0430 (IDT) Reply-To: majid@bol.sharif.ac.ir Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Majid Tajamolian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP connection timeout MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir: majid owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear LIST: I have a problem while trying to define a new folder in Incoming-Folders collection using IMAP. I receive the following error message from PINE ver 4.10 after about 25 seconds: [[CLOSED] IMAP connection broken (server response)] The server is located out of our LAN and it seems a timeout occurs due to our slowish connection line to the internet. Any suggestions to overcome this problem? -- THX in advance, M. 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But also the best you can do is preprocess spam and > throw it away (a recipe moving it to /dev/null). On the mailserver > (sendmail at least) you can have it send a response back to the user > saying 550 error and some message or some things like that. There is just > a little more control at the mailserver level as far as spam goes. Plus > if you filter it out at the MTA it never hits your machine wheras procmail > has to receive it first then do something with it. Ah, I can see what you are saying (specifically in respect to the bouncing an error back). You can do that through procmail also, it's just a little more difficult. I just haven't seen how to setup sendmail to block senders. As for ``never hitting my machine'' sendmail, and procmail are sitting on the same machine, but that's not always the case, probably won't be the case when I expand services, whenever that is... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. 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WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:45:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA06415 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA15176; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:45:41 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA16622; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:45:14 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA08864 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:39:20 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA23202 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:39:19 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA14992 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:39:19 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA18628; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:38:38 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:38:38 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: make default save folder dependent on incoming folder MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Here's a suggestion for a feature that I would like to have. When I save a message from one of my incoming folders, I would like it to default to the corresponding Mail box. The feature is *almost* already available. When leaving an incoming folder, pine prompts me by asking if I want to save the messages from that incoming folder in the corresponding Mail folder. I want to extend that functionality so that when I use the 's' command to save a message from an incoming folder, it will default to the corresponding mail folder instead of to the usual default (for me it's saved-messages). Good idea? Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:50:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA07454 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:50:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA15276; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:50:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA16990; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:50:23 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA31280 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:41:55 -0700 Received: from physis.viper.net (physis.viper.net [207.13.5.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA23594 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 14:41:50 -0700 Received: from localhost (stick@localhost) by physis.viper.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id QAA15420; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:36:49 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:36:49 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris MacLeod To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Block sender In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jessica Rasku X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: stick@physis.viper.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well using sendmail 8.9.2+ you have an access database. Any address or partial address listed their can be relayed, denyed or denied with a message. Whereas with procmail you accept the message then funnel it to /dev/null with almost the same effect just slightly different. On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 13:29:27 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jessica Rasku > To: Chris MacLeod > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: Block sender > > On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Chris MacLeod wrote: > > > Depends, procmail will let you do things at the user level so you or your > > users can customize. But also the best you can do is preprocess spam and > > throw it away (a recipe moving it to /dev/null). On the mailserver > > (sendmail at least) you can have it send a response back to the user > > saying 550 error and some message or some things like that. There is just > > a little more control at the mailserver level as far as spam goes. Plus > > if you filter it out at the MTA it never hits your machine wheras procmail > > has to receive it first then do something with it. > > Ah, I can see what you are saying (specifically in respect to the > bouncing an error back). You can do that through procmail also, it's just > a little more difficult. I just haven't seen how to setup sendmail to > block senders. As for ``never hitting my machine'' sendmail, and procmail > are sitting on the same machine, but that's not always the case, probably > won't be the case when I expand services, whenever that is... > > Jessica > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ stick@physis.viper.net Chris MacLeod Web Systems Administrator www.miscellaneous.net With blue, uncertain, stumbling buzz, Between the light and me, And then the windows failed, and then I could not see to see. -Emily Dickenson "I Heard A Fly Buzz When I Died" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Beware the penguins..." -Morphy GNUpgp Public key Available - finger physis@miscellaneous.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA07673 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:07:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA01203; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:07:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA17795; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:07:24 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA37710 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:02:05 -0700 Received: from library.berkeley.edu (library.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.224.55]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA27201 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:02:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (nlin@localhost) by library.berkeley.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA29714; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 15:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy Lin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: make default save folder dependent on incoming folder In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It's already configurable, under the variable default-saved-msg-folder. -- Nancy On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > Here's a suggestion for a feature that I would like to have. When I > save a message from one of my incoming folders, I would like it to > default to the corresponding Mail box. The feature is *almost* > already available. When leaving an incoming folder, pine prompts me > by asking if I want to save the messages from that incoming folder in > the corresponding Mail folder. I want to extend that functionality so > that when I use the 's' command to save a message from an incoming > folder, it will default to the corresponding mail folder instead of to > the usual default (for me it's saved-messages). > > Good idea? > > Mike > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA05983 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA03075; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:06:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA25211; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:06:09 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA41980 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:02:19 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA04402 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:02:19 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA17271 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:02:18 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA18884; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:01:38 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 18:01:38 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: make default save folder dependent on incoming folder In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Nancy Lin wrote: > It's already configurable, under the variable default-saved-msg-folder. I don't think it is, quite, or I'm not able to figure out how to do it. I have the following settings: default-saved-msg-folder = saved-messages saved-msg-name-rule = Set Rule Values --- ---------------------- ( ) by-from ( ) by-nick-of-from ( ) by-nick-of-from-then-from ( ) by-fcc-of-from ( ) by-fcc-of-from-then-from ( ) by-sender ( ) by-nick-of-sender ( ) by-nick-of-sender-then-sender ( ) by-fcc-of-sender ( ) by-fcc-of-sender-then-sender ( ) by-recipient ( ) by-nick-of-recip ( ) by-nick-of-recip-then-recip ( ) by-fcc-of-recip ( ) by-fcc-of-recip-then-recip ( ) last-folder-used (*) default-folder Pine will default to saved-messages *always* for regular saves. I don't think any of the "by-" rules apply to what I want. I want it to save based on the folder I'm saving from (the Incoming folder). What do I have to do to achieve that? I want it to save to a corresponding Mail folder from the Incoming folder, but when I'm not in an Incoming folder I want saves to go to saved-messages. Please let me know if Pine can do this already. Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > > > Here's a suggestion for a feature that I would like to have. When I > > save a message from one of my incoming folders, I would like it to > > default to the corresponding Mail box. The feature is *almost* > > already available. When leaving an incoming folder, pine prompts me > > by asking if I want to save the messages from that incoming folder in > > the corresponding Mail folder. I want to extend that functionality so > > that when I use the 's' command to save a message from an incoming > > folder, it will default to the corresponding mail folder instead of to > > the usual default (for me it's saved-messages). > > > > Good idea? > > > > Mike > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA10698 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA19391; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:24:02 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA29252; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:23:33 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA16720 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:19:08 -0700 Received: from olive.cac.washington.edu (olive.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.99]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA17209 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:19:07 -0700 Received: from ldsl135.sttl.uswest.net by olive.cac.washington.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/UW-NDC Revision: 2.21 ) id AA02286; Tue, 6 Apr 99 17:19:05 PDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 17:19:05 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: make default save folder dependent on incoming folder In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Mike, Perhaps the "incoming-archive-folders" feature might work for you. It doesn't affect the default for Saves, but it specifies where any read-but-not-deleted messages will end up when you exit the incoming folder. Also, I find the "by-recipient" rule to be useful, especially when the incoming folder contains messages filtered by destination, e.g. the name of an email list of newsgroup. -teg On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Nancy Lin wrote: > > > It's already configurable, under the variable default-saved-msg-folder. > > > I don't think it is, quite, or I'm not able to figure out how to do it. I > have the following settings: > > > default-saved-msg-folder = saved-messages > > saved-msg-name-rule = > Set Rule Values > --- ---------------------- > ( ) by-from > ( ) by-nick-of-from > ( ) by-nick-of-from-then-from > ( ) by-fcc-of-from > ( ) by-fcc-of-from-then-from > ( ) by-sender > ( ) by-nick-of-sender > ( ) by-nick-of-sender-then-sender > ( ) by-fcc-of-sender > ( ) by-fcc-of-sender-then-sender > ( ) by-recipient > ( ) by-nick-of-recip > ( ) by-nick-of-recip-then-recip > ( ) by-fcc-of-recip > ( ) by-fcc-of-recip-then-recip > ( ) last-folder-used > (*) default-folder > > Pine will default to saved-messages *always* for regular saves. I don't > think any of the "by-" rules apply to what I want. I want it to save > based on the folder I'm saving from (the Incoming folder). What do I have > to do to achieve that? I want it to save to a corresponding Mail folder > from the Incoming folder, but when I'm not in an Incoming folder I want > saves to go to saved-messages. > > Please let me know if Pine can do this already. > > Mike > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA12363 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA08702; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:07:13 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA25095; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:06:54 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA33606 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:03:08 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA07466 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:03:07 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA22949 for ; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 21:03:07 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA20934; Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:02:27 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 23:02:27 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: make default save folder dependent on incoming folder In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 6 Apr 1999, Terry Gray wrote: > Perhaps the "incoming-archive-folders" feature might work for you. > It doesn't affect the default for Saves, but it specifies where any > read-but-not-deleted messages will end up when you exit the incoming > folder. I use that feature. Your terminology makes clear what I want pine to do for me. You said that the "incoming-archive-folders" feature "doesn't affect the default for Saves." I think it would be best if "incoming-archive-folders" *did* affect the default for Saves. Or, at least, that should be an option we can choose. Thanks very much for your reply. I think my suggestion is probably clear now. Doesn't it make sense that the default for Saves should be the same as the place where unread messages will go? Regards, Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 05:32:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA20857 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 05:32:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA16672; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 05:32:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id FAA13347; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 05:32:12 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA32492 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 05:27:58 -0700 Received: from equake.geol.vt.edu (equake.geol.vt.edu [128.173.184.42]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id FAA08936 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 05:27:58 -0700 Received: from localhost (snoke@localhost) by equake.geol.vt.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id IAA03842 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:27:55 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:27:55 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Arthur Snoke To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Where do "saves" go? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: snoke@equake X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN A feature I would like is for the default for S or E to go to the folder/directory the previous one went to. It is not unusual for me to have a sequence of messages I want to put in the same place. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA24761 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA00578; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:08:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA23579; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:08:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA49936 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:03:20 -0700 Received: from sos.sos.net (root@sos.net [209.20.224.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA23378 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:03:19 -0700 Received: from ACER (sos-dialup165.nwlink.com [209.20.225.165]) by sos.sos.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA02790 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:03:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 08:03:35 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Where do "saves" go? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: leibrand@leibrand.deskmail.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 7 Apr 1999, Arthur Snoke wrote: > A feature I would like is for the default for S or E to go to the > folder/directory the previous one went to. It is not unusual for me to > have a sequence of messages I want to put in the same place. > That's how saves already work if you have saved-msg-name-rule set to last-folder-used. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:57:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA26354 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:57:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA03326; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:57:34 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA01128; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:57:01 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA13068 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:51:33 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA07689 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:51:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA08456 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:51:31 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 09:51:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: disable-keymenu ... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It's a bug. Will be fixed in next Pine. Thanks. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 31 Mar 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > ... is no longer listed in the Pine Configuration Screen feature-list. > It does work if you add it manually to your pinerc so it seems to have > become a hidden feature. Is this a bug or feature? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA29993 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:49:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA28256; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:49:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA01052; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:49:09 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA40060 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:44:43 -0700 Received: from inet16.us.oracle.com (inet16.us.oracle.com [192.86.155.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA02971 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:44:43 -0700 Received: from usmail07 (usmail07.us.oracle.com [144.25.88.190]) by inet16.us.oracle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA10909 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:44:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us.oracle.com by usmail07 with ESMTP (8.8.8+Sun/37.9) id MAA12568; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 12:44:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <370BB5A4.D063E843@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 12:44:36 -0700 Reply-To: vnimani@us.oracle.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Visar Nimani To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: prompted for uname/password over and over again MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: vnimani@us.oracle.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi to all of you and thanks for taking a look at my problem. I run pine 4.10 on solaris; using IMAP. My problem is that during a single pine session, I have to enter my username/password multiple times. Every time I change folders or ask for my folder listing from the IMAP server, pine asks me for my user name and password all over again. Is there any way to have pine memorize the info during a session (i.e. I start pine, I enter username and password, and then am not asked for the info again until I quit and start pine again)? Also, as part of my setup I was trying to enter my correct username to the IMAP server (i.e. using the following syntax -- {:/user=/service=}). Unfortunately my username (vnimani/mail09) contains a "/" which seems to confuse pine. Do you buy any chance know a workaround? Well, to anyone that can help me or that tried to help, my sincere thanks. Visar Nimani -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA01499 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA14256; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:16:40 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA15484; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:16:16 -0700 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA16538 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:11:05 -0700 Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA37830 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:11:04 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA28838 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:11:04 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 16:11:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: prompted for uname/password over and over again In-Reply-To: <370BB5A4.D063E843@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Have you tried using the \/ key combination? I can't test it, but I would suspect that might work. Alternately, you might try surrounding the username with quotes... -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Visar Nimani wrote: > Hi to all of you and thanks for taking a look at my problem. I run > pine 4.10 on solaris; using IMAP. > My problem is that during a single pine session, I have to enter my > username/password multiple times. Every time I change folders or ask > for my folder listing from the IMAP server, pine asks me for my user > name and password all over again. Is there any way to have pine > memorize the info during a session (i.e. I start pine, I enter > username and password, and then am not asked for the info again until > I quit and > start pine again)? > Also, as part of my setup I was trying to enter my correct username > to the IMAP server (i.e. using the following syntax -- > {:/user=/service=}). > Unfortunately my username (vnimani/mail09) contains a "/" which seems > to confuse pine. Do you buy any chance know a workaround? > Well, to anyone that can help me or that tried to help, my sincere > thanks. > > Visar Nimani > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:54:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA01222 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:54:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA04300; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:54:11 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA04426; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:53:47 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA09094 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:48:48 -0700 Received: from inet16.us.oracle.com (inet16.us.oracle.com [192.86.155.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA17951 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:48:48 -0700 Received: from usmail07 (usmail07.us.oracle.com [144.25.88.190]) by inet16.us.oracle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA00736 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from us.oracle.com by usmail07 with ESMTP (8.8.8+Sun/37.9) id RAA08045; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 17:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <370BFCEF.6DD69C65@us.oracle.com> Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 17:48:47 -0700 Reply-To: vnimani@us.oracle.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Visar Nimani To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: prompted for uname/password over and over again References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: vnimani@us.oracle.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Scott, thanks for the suggestions. I did try them but no luck. I even tried them in combination and they did not work. Do you by any chance have any suggestions related to the first part of my initial question -- how to make pine remember the authentication information during the current session. See, that is my biggest problem -- having to authenticate over and over again during a single pine session. Scott, once again thank you. Visar Scott Leibrand wrote: > Have you tried using the \/ key combination? I can't test it, but I would > suspect that might work. Alternately, you might try surrounding the > username with quotes... > > -- > Scott Leibrand > leibrand@u.washington.edu > * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * > * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * > > On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Visar Nimani wrote: > > > Hi to all of you and thanks for taking a look at my problem. I run > > pine 4.10 on solaris; using IMAP. > > My problem is that during a single pine session, I have to enter my > > username/password multiple times. Every time I change folders or ask > > for my folder listing from the IMAP server, pine asks me for my user > > name and password all over again. Is there any way to have pine > > memorize the info during a session (i.e. I start pine, I enter > > username and password, and then am not asked for the info again until > > I quit and > > start pine again)? > > Also, as part of my setup I was trying to enter my correct username > > to the IMAP server (i.e. using the following syntax -- > > {:/user=/service=}). > > Unfortunately my username (vnimani/mail09) contains a "/" which seems > > to confuse pine. Do you buy any chance know a workaround? > > Well, to anyone that can help me or that tried to help, my sincere > > thanks. > > > > Visar Nimani > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:34:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA02985 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:34:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA05149; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:34:37 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA06611; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:34:11 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA42464 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:30:01 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA22391 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:30:00 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1148"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9RLJ58982002M5A@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 07 Apr 1999 21:29:10 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: prompted for uname/password over and over again In-Reply-To: <370BB5A4.D063E843@us.oracle.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Visar Nimani X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@mail1.new-york.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 7 Apr 1999, Visar Nimani wrote: > My problem is that during a single pine session, I have to enter my > username/password multiple times. Every time I change folders or ask > for my folder listing from the IMAP server, pine asks me for my user > name and password all over again. Is there any way to have pine > memorize the info during a session (i.e. I start pine, I enter > username and password, and then am not asked for the info again until > I quit and > start pine again)? > Also, as part of my setup I was trying to enter my correct username > to the IMAP server (i.e. using the following syntax -- > {:/user=/service=}). > Unfortunately my username (vnimani/mail09) contains a "/" which seems > to confuse pine. Do you buy any chance know a workaround? I've also been through this constant prompting on a Unix system and it's very painful. Here are some possibilities for making the situation a little better. 1] Recompile Pine so that your password is stored in the filed defined by PASSFILE. This is described at: http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes.4.10/installation.html 2] Figure out how to get your user name into your server specification (I know you're trying to do this!) so that you at least won't be prompted for your user name. If you are using IMAP and the port number is 143, you don't need to specify those (because those are the default). All you need to specify is: {your.imap.server/user=your-user-name} Maybe try all kinds of quotes, e.g.: {your.imap.server/user="vnimani/mail09"} {your.imap.server/user='vnimani/mail09'} {your.imap.server/user=`vnimani/mail09`} Or double and triple slashes: {your.imap.server/user=vnimani//mail09} {your.imap.server/user=vnimani///mail09} Or try just vnimani as your user name. Or ask your admins if they know of a solution or can give you a better user name. 3] Set up Pine so that as many files as possible are local rather than on the IMAP server. This includes your address book, your postponed folder, your default fcc and saved folders, etc. etc. Let us know what the solution to this is. Good luck, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA03125 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA05642; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:02:25 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA07329; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:01:48 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA48112 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:57:55 -0700 Received: from sos.sos.net (root@sos.net [209.20.224.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA19400 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:57:55 -0700 Received: from wingate (ip046.skt-d4.nwlink.com [209.20.226.46]) by sos.sos.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA19002; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:56:37 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: prompted for uname/password over and over again In-Reply-To: <370BFCEF.6DD69C65@us.oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Visar Nimani X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: leibrand@bp12.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I had that problem when I tried to use two different e-mail accounts from the same instance of Pine. They had different user names, so it would never remember which user name to use. Once I stuck a /user=leibrand on all the appropriate servers and /user=sleib on all the others, it started remembering everything. Are you setting it up to use more than one account? Or is your user name on your e-mail account different than your logon name on the machine you're running Pine from? If so, you'll need to figure out how to get the /user= tag to work... Hope that helps, -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On 7 Apr 1999, Visar Nimani wrote: > > Scott, thanks for the suggestions. I did try them but no luck. I even > tried them in combination and they did not work. > Do you by any chance have any suggestions related to the first part of my > initial question -- how to make pine remember the authentication information > during the current session. See, that is my biggest problem -- having to > authenticate over and over again during a single pine session. > Scott, once again thank you. > > Visar > > > Scott Leibrand wrote: > > > Have you tried using the \/ key combination? I can't test it, but I would > > suspect that might work. Alternately, you might try surrounding the > > username with quotes... > > > > -- > > Scott Leibrand > > leibrand@u.washington.edu > > * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * > > * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * > > > > On Wed, 7 Apr 1999, Visar Nimani wrote: > > > > > Hi to all of you and thanks for taking a look at my problem. I run > > > pine 4.10 on solaris; using IMAP. > > > My problem is that during a single pine session, I have to enter my > > > username/password multiple times. Every time I change folders or ask > > > for my folder listing from the IMAP server, pine asks me for my user > > > name and password all over again. Is there any way to have pine > > > memorize the info during a session (i.e. I start pine, I enter > > > username and password, and then am not asked for the info again until > > > I quit and > > > start pine again)? > > > Also, as part of my setup I was trying to enter my correct username > > > to the IMAP server (i.e. using the following syntax -- > > > {:/user=/service=}). > > > Unfortunately my username (vnimani/mail09) contains a "/" which seems > > > to confuse pine. Do you buy any chance know a workaround? > > > Well, to anyone that can help me or that tried to help, my sincere > > > thanks. > > > > > > Visar Nimani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA03391 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA17730; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:05:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA08067; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:05:09 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA44538 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:00:38 -0700 Received: from sos.sos.net (root@sos.net [209.20.224.2]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA19675 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:00:38 -0700 Received: from wingate (ip046.skt-d4.nwlink.com [209.20.226.46]) by sos.sos.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA19271 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 19:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 Apr 1999 18:59:24 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: prompted for uname/password over and over again In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: leibrand@bp12.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 7 Apr 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > On 7 Apr 1999, Visar Nimani wrote: > > My problem is that during a single pine session, I have to enter my > > username/password multiple times. Every time I change folders or ask > > for my folder listing from the IMAP server, pine asks me for my user > > name and password all over again. Is there any way to have pine > > memorize the info during a session (i.e. I start pine, I enter > > username and password, and then am not asked for the info again until > > I quit and > > start pine again)? > > Also, as part of my setup I was trying to enter my correct username > > to the IMAP server (i.e. using the following syntax -- > > {:/user=/service=}). > > Unfortunately my username (vnimani/mail09) contains a "/" which seems > > to confuse pine. Do you buy any chance know a workaround? > > > I've also been through this constant prompting on a Unix system and > it's very painful. Here are some possibilities for making the > situation a little better. > > 1] Recompile Pine so that your password is stored in the filed defined > by PASSFILE. This is described at: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes.4.10/installation.html > You can try it, but I don't think this will help. I tried using pine.pwd in PC-Pine when using multiple user names (multiple mail servers) and it still didn't save until I put the /user= flag in. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu How to contact me: http://students.washington.edu/leibrand/howtocontactme.html * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:21:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA04580 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:21:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA19781; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:21:32 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA12666; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:20:49 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA45894 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:16:53 -0700 Received: from ew.mimos.my (ew.mimos.my [192.228.129.34]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA07357 for ; Wed, 7 Apr 1999 21:16:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (sazli@localhost) by ew.mimos.my (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA23105 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:16:47 +0800 (MYT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:16:47 +0800 (MYT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Syahrul Sazli Shaharir To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: quotactl undefined (Solaris 2.6) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: ew.mimos.my: sazli owned process doing -bs X-Sender: sazli@ew X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Having problems linking pine+USE_QUOTAS in Solaris 2.6 with gcc 2.8.1 (build gs5) ld error occured right here:- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Making Pine. make CC=gcc -f makefile.gs5 echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c echo "char hoststamp[]="\"`uname -n`\"";" >> date.c gcc -g -DDEBUG -DSV4 -DSYSTYPE=\"GSO\" -DMOUSE -o pine addrbook.o adrbkcmd.o adrbklib.o args.o bldaddr.o context.o filter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o strings.o takeaddr.o os.o date.c ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -ltermlib `cat ../c-client/LDFLAGS` Undefined first referenced symbol in file quotactl os.o ld: fatal: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to pine make: *** [pine] Error 1 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Which library has quotactl()? Thanks.. Sazli sazli@mimos.my -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA15611 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:16:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA31478; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:16:04 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA25337; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:15:00 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA21542 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:09:25 -0700 Received: from watsol.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu789@watsol.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.139]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA31068 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 09:09:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (bino@localhost) by watsol.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA28573 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:09:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:09:22 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bino Gopal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.10 Save Command MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bino@watsun.cc.columbia.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all, Just subscribed to the pine-info list for the first time. I've been using Pine for 6 years now, and was pretty familiar with it; but this was b/c the most reason version installed on our servers was 3.95 (I understood the behavior very well, was thoroughly versed in all the options I could set, had procmail set up, xbuffy going, and life was good! :). Now, 4.10 was just installed Tuesday, and a lot of things have changed--mostly for the better. I like the web browsing feature, and nested folder collections have been my biggest wish (now answered). I think I've pretty much figured out all the behaviors that have ben confusing me, except for one thing, which for the life of me looks like a bug: When I save a message in Pine 3.95, say if it starts in Folder Collection 1 (FC1), and I need to save it to FC2, I find the easiest method is to use ^T and go to folder collections screen, browse around, find the right folder, hit enter to select it, then hit enter once more to confirm the save, and then the message is saved to the new location. Well, this is how it always was in Pine, up to 3.95 AFAIK. But now in 4.10, after using ^T, the FC being saved to doesn't change; it only selects the name of the folder, but not the FC that that folder is in! This seems intuitively wrong--unless all folders in all your FC's had corresponding names, then why wouldn't it also pick the FC that that folder is in? What's more, I think this behavior is actually dangerous, b/c if you're saving a message to your Friends FC, to the folder John, and you're in the Enemies FC where someone is also named John, you can save the message in the completely wrong folder and not even know it! Now, I've checked the list message archives on the website, and I haven't seen anything on this subject. Maybe I'm just missing a configuration option, but I've gone through the setup/config with a fine-toothed comb, and read all the help pages in there (as I did long ago for 3.95), and I could find no setting, nor even a mention of this behavior being a new feature or anything of the sort. So I was hoping that someone could enlighten me as to what is going on here, and, hopefully, how to fix it (Im really hoping that it can be fixed, as this is a truly annoying feature; or lack of one I should say). Well, I hope someone out there can help me figure this out. Thank you very much. BINO P.S. One other thing I've noticed, and must be a definite bug: there's no option to turn on the keymenu at the bottom of the screen. Now I've always had it off once i figured out what I was doing, but when 4.10 was installed, I was desperately wishing for it to be back on, and there was no setup/config for that; I had to go edit the .pinerc manually and rem out the line on the old-growth-feature-set which was disabling it. This is most likely a huge drawback for any newbies; relative or complete (as I found out). I'm assuming that this is a bug? --- Bino Gopal Network Analyst Academic Information Systems Columbia University bino@columbia.edu -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA20030 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:29:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA26273; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:29:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA01139; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:28:43 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA30236 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:22:08 -0700 Received: from morrison.matrox.com (morrison.matrox.com [204.50.136.19]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA26630 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 12:22:07 -0700 Received: (from mtxmail@localhost) by morrison.matrox.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA14453 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:22:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.matrox.com(138.11.0.5) by morrison-250 via smap (V2.0) id xma014160; Thu, 8 Apr 99 15:21:13 -0400 Received: from pluton.matrox.com (pluton.matrox.com [138.11.0.2]) by venus.matrox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA02388 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:21:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pluton.matrox.com (pluton.matrox.com [192.168.145.6]) by pluton.matrox.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA21634 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 15:21:10 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Maxime Rousseau To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all, This is my first post here so please be indulgent :) I have seen a message regarding Outlook and how it is possible to make it export his eMails in a format readable by pine but no answer was ever posted. ( I didnt see it in the archives anyhow. ) So I was wondering if anyone has EVER done something to actually make the "Outlook -> PINE" mail migration work? Thanks, ------------------------------- Maxime Rousseau, SQA Multimedia Matrox Graphics Inc. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA19673 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA00447; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:56:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA20818; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:56:31 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA10152 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:50:56 -0700 Received: from ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA07937 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 16:50:54 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:50:48 +0800 Message-Id: <000701be821a$98440df0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:50:34 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Maxime Rousseau" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Maxime, > Hello all, This is my first post here so please be indulgent :) > > I have seen a message regarding Outlook and how it is possible to make it > export his eMails in a format readable by pine but no answer was ever > posted. ( I didnt see it in the archives anyhow. ) > > So I was wondering if anyone has EVER done something to actually make the > "Outlook -> PINE" mail migration work? Outlook98 speakes IMAP4, Pine speakes IMAP4. Place messages from Outlook98 folder into a folder on the server. Retrieve messages from folder on server with pine. Done? Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:08:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA25373 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA01984; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:08:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA02373; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:07:35 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA33044 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:02:40 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA26454 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:02:38 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA12838 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:06:33 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Thu, 8 Apr 99 16:06 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA07154 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:53:56 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 17:53:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.10 Save Command In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Bino Gopal wrote: > When I save a message in Pine 3.95, say if it starts in Folder Collection > 1 (FC1), and I need to save it to FC2, I find the easiest method is to use > ^T and go to folder collections screen, browse around, find the right > folder, hit enter to select it, then hit enter once more to confirm the > save, and then the message is saved to the new location. Well, this is > how it always was in Pine, up to 3.95 AFAIK. Okay, I just checked my Pine 3.96 and I see what you are talking about, I never used this feature (or rarely), myself. So, I don't remeber how it worked. I always used the arrow keys (up and down) to chose the collection, and then simply typed (ussualy with Tab completion), the folder name I was looking for. > But now in 4.10, after using ^T, the FC being saved to doesn't change; it > only selects the name of the folder, but not the FC that that folder is > in! In 4.05 the behaviour is typical of all folder etc. browsing. You can go up and down with < and > (or is that down and up?). So it will present the ``default for saves'' folder, but you can back up to the folder list using <. > This seems intuitively wrong--unless all folders in all your FC's had > corresponding names, then why wouldn't it also pick the FC that that > folder is in? What's more, I think this behavior is actually dangerous, > b/c if you're saving a message to your Friends FC, to the folder John, > and you're in the Enemies FC where someone is also named John, you can > save the message in the completely wrong folder and not even know it! Here may be a problem related to the one that I had. I didn't name my folders in 3.96, as I could tell by the command line what they were without naming them, so no big deal. Then, when I moved to 4.05, I found I couldn't ``change'' the folder collection the same way, so something must be wrong there. In truth, nothing was wrong, just that the behaviour had changed so that unnamed folders all looked the same. Wasn't a big deal under 3.96, but is under 4.05 > P.S. One other thing I've noticed, and must be a definite bug: there's no > option to turn on the keymenu at the bottom of the screen. Now I've > always had it off once i figured out what I was doing, but when 4.10 was > installed, I was desperately wishing for it to be back on, and there was > no setup/config for that; I had to go edit the .pinerc manually and rem > out the line on the old-growth-feature-set which was disabling it. This > is most likely a huge drawback for any newbies; relative or complete (as I > found out). I'm assuming that this is a bug? Yes, this is a bug, someone recently asked about it, and indeed it is a bug. It is being fixed (will be fixed with the next release was what we were told). Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:17:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA26026 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA02123; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:16:57 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA02616; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:16:44 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA29212 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:11:49 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA27566 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:11:47 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 2242"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9SZ6LLMQG002G1W@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 21:11:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:09:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: URL problema MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: NULL@news2.new-york.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just posted a message with a valid URL to comp.mail.pine, but when I view the message in Pine only part of the URL is turned into a link. Since it's a valid URL, it would be nice if it worked. Thanks, N ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 00:39:57 GMT Subject: Re: newsgroups with pine? -- Addition [ deleted ] http://www.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=434087592 -- For Pine info and links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Posted via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:56:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA26194 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:55:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA02835; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:55:57 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA24563; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:55:35 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA26994 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:49:48 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA21157 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:49:48 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA12565 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 18:49:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA04868; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:49:05 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:49:05 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: URL problema In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > I just posted a message with a valid URL to comp.mail.pine, but when I > view the message in Pine only part of the URL is turned into a link. > Since it's a valid URL, it would be nice if it worked. I've had the same problem--many times. Shouldn't the URL always continue until a space or newline is reached? Brackets shouldn't mark the end. --Mike > [ deleted ] > > http://www.dejanews.com/[ST_rn=ps]/getdoc.xp?AN=434087592 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA26364 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA03316; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:25:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA04303; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:25:01 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA09058 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:19:07 -0700 Received: from unik.net (rewt@cpu182.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com [207.236.226.186]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA01489 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:19:06 -0700 Received: from localhost (fallen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unik.net (8.9.3/evil) with SMTP id WAA06381 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:17:15 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:17:15 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Prince Of Angels Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Prince Of Angels To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: <000701be821a$98440df0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: masial@unik.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Ed Greshko wrote: > Maxime, > > > Hello all, This is my first post here so please be indulgent :) > > > > I have seen a message regarding Outlook and how it is possible to makeit > > export his eMails in a format readable by pine but no answer was ever > > posted. ( I didnt see it in the archives anyhow. ) > > > > So I was wondering if anyone has EVER done something to actually make the > > "Outlook -> PINE" mail migration work? > > Outlook98 speakes IMAP4, Pine speakes IMAP4. > > Place messages from Outlook98 folder into a folder on the server. > Retrieve messages from folder on server with pine. > > Done? Not quite... Maybe I dont understand what you are trying to tell me but, taking a outlook folder and ftping it onto my linux machine ( I took the file sample.mbx ) will not work as expected. Instead, I see one big Message: [Part 1, Application/OCTET-STREAM (Name: "sample.mbx") 242KB] [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file] Also, if the size of the file is too large, PINE dies on me like this: Problem detected: "Out of free storage". Pine Exiting. IOT trap/Abort (core dumped) But in neither of thoses cases do I find the solution to my problem.. Observing further into the .mbx file I noticed that every eMail has its "From:" -key- field crippled somehow. The field: From: "Microsoft Outlook Express Team" Shows as : JMF6^C So PINE does not see it properly. Any Ideas as what this thing is? I noticed that the line does not show as the same thing depending if I use pico or more to view it.. (??) Thanks, Max > Ed > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA25283 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:56:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA13637; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:56:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA05809; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:56:36 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA21632 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:51:34 -0700 Received: from ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA00720 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:51:31 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:51:22 +0800 Message-Id: <000601be8233$d29a40a0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:51:10 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Prince Of Angels" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > Outlook98 speakes IMAP4, Pine speakes IMAP4. > > > > Place messages from Outlook98 folder into a folder on the server. > > Retrieve messages from folder on server with pine. > > > > Done? > > Not quite... Maybe I dont understand what you are trying to tell me but, > taking a outlook folder and ftping it onto my linux machine ( I took the > file sample.mbx ) will not work as expected. I don't recall ever using the phrase "ftp". > Instead, I see one big Message: > > [Part 1, Application/OCTET-STREAM (Name: "sample.mbx") 242KB] > [Cannot display this part. Press "V" then "S" to save in a file] > > Also, if the size of the file is too large, PINE dies on me like this: > > Problem detected: "Out of free storage". > Pine Exiting. > IOT trap/Abort (core dumped) That is what I would have expected. > But in neither of thoses cases do I find the solution to my problem.. OK. First, let me say that I use both pine and Outlook98. My understanding is that you want to move messages from a "local" folder on Outlook98 to a "local" folder in pine. So, the process is like so: 1. In Outlook, right click on the top level of the IMAP server. Choose "New Folder". Go through the process of creating a new folder on the server. Call it what you will...."Transit Stop" comes to mind. 2. In Outlook, highlight the messages you want to move to the "local" folder in pine. Perform the "Move to Folder" or "Copy to Folder" depending on your desire. Choose the destination you created in step #1. ....The messages are now on the server....then (I leave the details to you) do the reverse operation in pine. Move/copy them from the server to the local folder. No FTP, no RCP, no CP, no samba..... OK, it is more than a single step....but it works. Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA13824 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:01:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA13723; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:01:35 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA06053; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:01:22 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA35930 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:51:56 -0700 Received: from watsol.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu789@watsol.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.139]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA26853 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 19:51:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (bino@localhost) by watsol.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA10024 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:51:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:51:53 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bino Gopal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine 4.10 Save Command In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bino@watsun.cc.columbia.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for your response Jessica. Comments in-line. On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Bino Gopal wrote: > > > When I save a message in Pine 3.95, say if it starts in Folder Collection > > 1 (FC1), and I need to save it to FC2, I find the easiest method is to use > > ^T and go to folder collections screen, browse around, find the right > > folder, hit enter to select it, then hit enter once more to confirm the > > save, and then the message is saved to the new location. Well, this is > > how it always was in Pine, up to 3.95 AFAIK. > > But now in 4.10, after using ^T, the FC being saved to doesn't change; it > > only selects the name of the folder, but not the FC that that folder is > > in! > > In 4.05 the behaviour is typical of all folder etc. browsing. You > can go up and down with < and > (or is that down and up?). So it will > present the ``default for saves'' folder, but you can back up to the > folder list using <. I use the expand all folders and subdirs on view option, so when I go see my FC's they're all expanded. Also the < and > don't work when I'm saving, either b/c of the expanded view, or b/c it's not supported during saves... > > This seems intuitively wrong--unless all folders in all your FC's had > > corresponding names, then why wouldn't it also pick the FC that that > > folder is in? What's more, I think this behavior is actually dangerous, > > b/c if you're saving a message to your Friends FC, to the folder John, > > and you're in the Enemies FC where someone is also named John, you can > > save the message in the completely wrong folder and not even know it! > > Here may be a problem related to the one that I had. I didn't > name my folders in 3.96, as I could tell by the command line what they > were without naming them, so no big deal. Then, when I moved to 4.05, I > found I couldn't ``change'' the folder collection the same way, so > something must be wrong there. In truth, nothing was wrong, just that the > behaviour had changed so that unnamed folders all looked the same. Wasn't > a big deal under 3.96, but is under 4.05 (Um, I don't understand how you would do this...?) My point is just that if you use CTRL-T to point to a folder to save a message, why doesn't it also pick the Folder Collection that that folder is in? Why is the FC assumed to be the same as the folder you're saving the message from?! That just doesn't make any sense...I'd like to hear the reason (if there is one) for it to default to this behavior, and if it's a mistake/bug, I'm hoping it'll be fixed. The behavior I was used to in Pine 3.95 made perfect sense--this doesn't. Comments from anyone else who can enlighten me on this? Thanks in advance to everyone for their help! :) BINO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:52:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA27171 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA04770; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:52:49 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA08350; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:52:36 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA27030 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:46:52 -0700 Received: from unik.net (cpu182.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com [207.236.226.186]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA31731 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:46:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (fallen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unik.net (8.9.3/evil) with SMTP id XAA06558 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:44:58 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:44:58 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Prince Of Angels To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: <000601be8233$d29a40a0$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: masial@unik.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please forgive me for making this thread so long and beign so stupid but I seem to ( yet again ) fail to gasp a vital point here... >1. In Outlook, right click on the top level of the IMAP server. Choose >"New Folder". Go through the process of creating a new folder on the >server. Call it what you will...."Transit Stop" comes to mind. Alright, I just created the magic "Transit" folder who now displays just below the "drafts" and is of the same level as Inbox directly under "Local Folders". One thing, whats with the IMAP server? AFAIK this does not uses IMAP because my server does not runs IMAPd. I get eMail using POP3. >2. In Outlook, highlight the messages you want to move to the "local" >folder in pine. Perform the "Move to Folder" or "Copy to Folder" >depending on your desire. Choose the destination you created in step #1. No problem here. >....The messages are now on the server....then (I leave the details to you) >do the reverse operation in pine. Move/copy them from the server to the >local folder. >No FTP, no RCP, no CP, no samba..... OK, it is more than a single >step....but it works. Now this one kills me.. I am here on my Desktop PC with my "Transit" outlook folder. How can the messages be on the mail server if I dont ftp the folder.mbx file, samba it or something? I mean, whats the magic something thats supposed to happen to make this folder be on my mail server? Thank you very much for helping me with this as I know many others will be interested in knowing the how-to of this. Best Thanks, Dumb-Max From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:57:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA27057 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:57:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA04837; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:57:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA28928; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:57:35 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA30972 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:52:32 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (pb106.warszawa.ppp.tpnet.pl [212.160.53.106]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA32500 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 20:52:29 -0700 Received: (from news@localhost) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA10108 for Pine Discussion Forum ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:52:07 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:51:59 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Trace: qrnik.knm.org.pl 923629921 10106 127.0.0.1 (9 Apr 1999 03:52:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@qrnik.knm.org.pl X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Maxime Rousseau pisze: > I have seen a message regarding Outlook and how it is possible to make it > export his eMails in a format readable by pine but no answer was ever > posted. ( I didnt see it in the archives anyhow. ) Outlook Express? Try this (giving *.mbx as arguments): #!/usr/bin/perl $ENV{LC_ALL} = "C"; $data = `date`; chomp $data; foreach (@ARGV) { open IN, $_; open OUT, ">$ENV{HOME}/mail/$_"; sysseek IN, 0x5C, 0; while (sysread IN, $dlugosc_raw, 8) { $dlugosc = unpack "I", $dlugosc_raw; sysread IN, $_, $dlugosc - 8; s/\0.*$//s; s/\r//g; print OUT "From $ENV{USER}\@localhost $data\n$_\n"; } } -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://kki.net.pl/qrczak/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a22 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ ^^ W++ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t QRCZAK 5? X- R tv-- b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:35:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA29099 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:35:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA06744; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:35:44 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA11522; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:35:24 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA27054 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:30:29 -0700 Received: from ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA18886 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:30:24 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:30:17 +0800 Message-Id: <000e01be824a$05fbc750$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:30:05 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Prince Of Angels" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Alright, I just created the magic "Transit" folder who now displays just > below the "drafts" and is of the same level as Inbox directly under "Local > Folders". One thing, whats with the IMAP server? AFAIK this does not uses > IMAP because my server does not runs IMAPd. I get eMail using POP3. Well...you've just pointed out the problem. POP3 v.s. IMAP4. I should have thought of that earlier. But who, in their right mind, would want to use POP3. :-) :-) Regards, Ed P.S. Glad to hear you got it working..... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA20865 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA16616; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:01:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id XAA11368; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 23:00:46 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA33502 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:55:57 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA16241 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:55:57 -0700 Received: from ww184.netaddress.usa.net (ww184.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.84]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA07030 for ; Thu, 8 Apr 1999 22:55:57 -0700 Received: (qmail 21735 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Apr 1999 05:55:56 -0000 Received: from 204.68.24.84 by ww184 via web-mailer(M3.0.0.60) on Fri Apr 9 05:55:56 GMT 1999 Message-Id: <19990409055556.21734.qmail@ww184.netaddress.usa.net> Date: 9 Apr 99 01:55:56 EDT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: VirtualBalls To: Pine Discussion Forum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I need someone to email me about a problem. I have NO IDEA why, I can't TRUST my ISP, but I seemingly can't. I would like to know if there is a way to set my PINE account so MY ISP= doesn't read my DEVELOPER info, that they have NEVER seen before. :) I actually am kind of doumbfounded. I just receintly REALIZED that the= y = were doing this. Thanks, JEn ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webm= ail.netscape.com. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA00080 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA11344; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:00:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id EAA17280; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 04:00:33 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA33284 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:56:25 -0700 Received: from comet.connix.com (root@comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA26194 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 03:56:24 -0700 Received: from 35.ct6.dyn.connix.net (35.ct6.dyn.connix.net [209.66.144.170]) by comet.connix.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA21271 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:56:22 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:52:36 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: dizzy73@connix.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Color pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dizzy73@Serina.dizzy73 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN HI all Im new to this list. One of my primairy interests is to get pine to run in color. Im using pine 4.02 on a suse LInux system Ive read *almost* all the FAQs and scowered pines site, also posted to my suse list and I cant find really anyone who has done this. I have see, read, and attempted to install the *patch* from this page http://www.softwolves.pp.se/pine.shtml But with no luck- Either the patch breaks pine or errors with "hunk failed at 636.." "patch next file...?" I read alot of mail per day and I *like* pine however the monotone black and white is hard on my eyes. HAs anyone done this and if so could give me some pointers? Thanks rob Linux Homepage http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm S.u.S.E Linux 5.3 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA03052 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA12345; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:04:47 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id FAA08529; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:04:34 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA33466 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:00:30 -0700 Received: from morrison.matrox.com (morrison.matrox.com [204.50.136.19]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA29270 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 05:00:29 -0700 Received: (from mtxmail@localhost) by morrison.matrox.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA25029 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:00:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.matrox.com(138.11.0.5) by morrison-250 via smap (V2.0) id xma025014; Fri, 9 Apr 99 08:00:01 -0400 Received: from pluton.matrox.com (pluton.matrox.com [138.11.0.2]) by venus.matrox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA26887 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 08:00:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pluton.matrox.com (pluton.matrox.com [192.168.145.6]) by pluton.matrox.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA19063 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:59:58 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Maxime Rousseau To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to make outlook grab your pine mail (answer to ruben) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ruben, The best way IMHO to do this neatly and have outlook not even know he's being feeded with old crappy mail (heh) is to select your folder of mail and just append it to your spool mail file, then click 'get mail' from outlook.. $ cd $ cd mail $ cat my-old-mail >> /var/spool/mail/$USER Of course, replace $USER with your username and my-old-mail with the pine folder you wana move to outlook... That works fine for me, but if I'm being evil please someone tell me. Maxime Rousseau, SQA Multimedia Matrox Graphics Inc. On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, ruben wrote: > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 1999 13:44:57 -0600 (MDT) > From: ruben > To: Maxime Rousseau > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? > > My question is just the opposite, if you have mail saved in various > foldesr under Pine, is there a way to import those folders into Outlook? > > > On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Maxime Rousseau wrote: > > > > > Hello all, This is my first post here so please be indulgent :) > > > > I have seen a message regarding Outlook and how it is possible to make it > > export his eMails in a format readable by pine but no answer was ever > > posted. ( I didnt see it in the archives anyhow. ) > > > > So I was wondering if anyone has EVER done something to actually make the > > "Outlook -> PINE" mail migration work? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > ------------------------------- > > Maxime Rousseau, SQA Multimedia > > Matrox Graphics Inc. > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA03258 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:23:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA23006; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:23:48 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id GAA19199; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:23:35 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA35394 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:19:42 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA01177 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:19:40 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1061"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9TOM0ICKC002KZ0@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:19:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:18:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: URL problema In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@shell13.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 8 Apr 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > I've had the same problem--many times. Shouldn't the URL always > continue until a space or newline is reached? Brackets shouldn't mark > the end. --Mike Unfortunately the algorithm for delimiting a URL can't be that simple. Some people surround URLs with angle brackets and if a URL is in a sentence, it is sometimes followed immediately by a period or comma. It seems to me that the algorithm should look something like this: URL begins at "protocol://" (where protocol is http, mailto, imap, ftp, news, gopher, etc.) Move to the right until you hit a space or end of line Now move back from the suspected end of URL and see if there are any characters that URLs can't (or rarely) end with such as > . , ] Remove any trailing character that a URL shouldn't end with I'm sure it's a harder problem to solve than this though. Maybe some day there will be a standard way to put URLs in messages (hah!). -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:37:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA01658 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:37:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA23212; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:37:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id GAA19960; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:36:45 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA44412 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:32:48 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA13071 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 06:32:46 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1098"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9TP29QNAA002KZ0@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 09:31:41 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: <000e01be824a$05fbc750$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@shell13.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 9 Apr 1999, Ed Greshko wrote: > > Alright, I just created the magic "Transit" folder who now displays just > > below the "drafts" and is of the same level as Inbox directly under "Local > > Folders". One thing, whats with the IMAP server? AFAIK this does not uses > > IMAP because my server does not runs IMAPd. I get eMail using POP3. > > Well...you've just pointed out the problem. POP3 v.s. IMAP4. > > I should have thought of that earlier. But who, in their right mind, would > want to use POP3. :-) :-) Unfortunately there are still some ISPs who haven't yet jumped on the IMAP bandwagon. Once they start losing customers though they should jump on! I like Ed's technique for converting message folders and if you want to use it and don't have access to an IMAP server, you can get a free IMAP account at www.operamail.com or www.mailandnews.com MailandNews limits you to 10 meg of space so if your folder is bigger than 10 meg, you'll have to split it up. I don't know if operamail has a space limit (does anyone know?). Also, does anyone know of any other free IMAP accounts -- I'd like to add them to my "Changing Your From Header in Pine" page. Thanks, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:11:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA04552 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA14217; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:11:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA07119; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:11:30 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA50094 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:08:07 -0700 Received: from ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA04917 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:08:05 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:08:00 +0800 Message-Id: <000301be8292$579cc300$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 22:07:45 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Also, does anyone know of any other > free IMAP accounts -- I'd like to add them to my "Changing Your From > Header in Pine" page. http://intrastore.cdc.com Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:47:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA31963 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA24711; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:47:48 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA22478; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:47:36 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA44116 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:43:33 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA19783 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:43:33 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA24538 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 07:43:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA07765; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:42:48 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 09:42:48 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: URL problem In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > Unfortunately the algorithm for delimiting a URL can't be that simple. > Some people surround URLs with angle brackets and if a URL is in a > sentence, it is sometimes followed immediately by a period or comma. I agree. People should avoid doing that. There is no way to deal with that problem except to assume that the trailing period or comma is not part of the URL (because it almost always was added by the author of the message). When a URL does end with a period, there will be nothing we can do about it. > It seems to me that the algorithm should look something like this: > > URL begins at "protocol://" (where protocol is http, mailto, imap, > ftp, news, gopher, etc.) But we have to deal with the mailto: and news: that don't have // in them. It is tricky! > Move to the right until you hit a space or end of line > Now move back from the suspected end of URL and see if there are > any characters that URLs can't (or rarely) end with such as > . , ] > Remove any trailing character that a URL shouldn't end with I see that this is a tricky problem. They must not have written it this way though because some URLs are chopped in half. I hope they are taking note of your suggestion. If most of the URL is sent to the browser, I can add the rest. If it's chopped in half, I have to go back and copy the other half and then paste it in. So I hope they take you up on this. Thanks, Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:12:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA09578 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA19569; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:12:44 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA21367; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:12:21 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA35468 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:07:54 -0700 Received: from ruby (ruby.co.clark.nv.us [198.200.132.17]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA08706 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:07:54 -0700 Received: by ruby; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA23147; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:07:17 -0700 Received: from pyrite.co.clark.nv.us by mailhub.co.clark.nv.us (PMDF V5.1-12 #29712) with SMTP id <01J9TQAP74VQ000E29@mailhub.co.clark.nv.us>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:07:15 PDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:07:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joseph Scanlan To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: File privacy In-Reply-To: <19990409055556.21734.qmail@ww184.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-To: VirtualBalls X-Cc: n7xsd@qsl.net, Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, VirtualBalls wrote: > I would like to know if there is a way to set my PINE > account so MY ISP doesn't read my DEVELOPER info, that > they have NEVER seen before. :) Some methods for keeping your files private. o Encrypt them with the very best algorithms available. Gaurd the keys jelously (but *don't* forget them). Of course, you're limited to the tools your ISP provides. o Keep your files on a system that you administer and can keep secure (a laptop in a safe, perhaps). Lock your backups away. Access may be a little les conveinent this way. o Hide in the crowd. Use an ISP with *lots* of customers and try not to draw attention to yourself. Use a service such as MailAndNews for persenal e-mail instead of the systems at work. Pick a user name that doesn't draw attention to yourself. o Trust No One... It all depends on how much effort you're willing to go to and how much trouble you'll have to deal with if your files are compromised. ------------- My opinions are mine alone, and that fact ------------- ------------- provides intense relief for my coworkers. ------------- Joe Scanlan Clark County CEIT Systems Programmer fax 702 455-4932 n7xsd@qsl.net (not work) PO Box 551761 jps@co.clark.nv.us (work) Las Vegas, NV, 89155-1761, USA -------------------- http://www.co.clark.nv.us/ --------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA06143 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA29295; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:30:52 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA17492; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:30:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA12318 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:25:44 -0700 Received: from poison.slackinc.com (poison.slackinc.com [206.0.70.40]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA05618 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:25:44 -0700 Received: by POISON with Internet Mail Service (5.5.1960.3) id <235WAYKH>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:29:08 -0400 Message-Id: <0089B6FA4F0DD211AD4E0001FA7E5055B844D0@POISON> Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:29:01 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: George Gallen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: File privacy MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-To: "'Joseph Scanlan'" , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How would encrypting files help, if the ISP gets the unencrypted files first then forwards them to the pine reader? If the ISP has backups of all mail incoming/outgoing, they can read it in plain english, unless of course you are sending/receiving encrypted emails. George -----Original Message----- From: Joseph Scanlan [mailto:jps@co.clark.nv.us] Sent: Friday, April 09, 1999 1:07 PM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: File privacy On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, VirtualBalls wrote: > I would like to know if there is a way to set my PINE > account so MY ISP doesn't read my DEVELOPER info, that > they have NEVER seen before. :) Some methods for keeping your files private. o Encrypt them with the very best algorithms available. Gaurd the keys jelously (but *don't* forget them). Of course, you're limited to the tools your ISP provides. o Keep your files on a system that you administer and can keep secure (a laptop in a safe, perhaps). Lock your backups away. Access may be a little les conveinent this way. o Hide in the crowd. Use an ISP with *lots* of customers and try not to draw attention to yourself. Use a service such as MailAndNews for persenal e-mail instead of the systems at work. Pick a user name that doesn't draw attention to yourself. o Trust No One... It all depends on how much effort you're willing to go to and how much trouble you'll have to deal with if your files are compromised. ------------- My opinions are mine alone, and that fact ------------- ------------- provides intense relief for my coworkers. ------------- Joe Scanlan Clark County CEIT Systems Programmer fax 702 455-4932 n7xsd@qsl.net (not work) PO Box 551761 jps@co.clark.nv.us (work) Las Vegas, NV, 89155-1761, USA -------------------- http://www.co.clark.nv.us/ --------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:40:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA10540 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA20491; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:40:44 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA02762; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:40:33 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA21722 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:36:14 -0700 Received: from ruby (ruby.co.clark.nv.us [198.200.132.17]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA13162 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:36:14 -0700 Received: by ruby; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA25361; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:36:09 -0700 Received: from pyrite.co.clark.nv.us by mailhub.co.clark.nv.us (PMDF V5.1-12 #29712) with SMTP id <01J9TRAIWXPW000FER@mailhub.co.clark.nv.us>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:36:07 PDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 10:36:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joseph Scanlan To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > Also, does anyone know of any other free IMAP accounts -- > I'd like to add them to my "Changing Your From Header in > Pine" page. http://www.telebot.net/ ------------- My opinions are mine alone, and that fact ------------- ------------- provides intense relief for my coworkers. ------------- Joe Scanlan Clark County CEIT Systems Programmer fax 702 455-4932 n7xsd@qsl.net (not work) PO Box 551761 jps@co.clark.nv.us (work) Las Vegas, NV, 89155-1761, USA -------------------- http://www.co.clark.nv.us/ --------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:02:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA02524 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA30298; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:02:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA03396; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:02:31 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA46208 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:58:29 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA10955 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 10:58:26 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1361"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9TYCJIZRK002H4G@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:57:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 13:57:13 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: request for another quell feature MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@shell13.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I'm using PC-Pine to read a Unix mbox-style folder that I've transferred to my PC, I periodically get notices that say: [New mailbox modification time but apparently no changes] It would be great if I could tell Pine to quell these messages! Thanks, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA11235 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA21939; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:25:19 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA05189; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:24:43 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA22264 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:19:30 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA10097 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:19:27 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1386"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9TZ2WGY0M002H4G@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:19:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:18:25 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Joseph Scanlan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@shell13.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 9 Apr 1999, Joseph Scanlan wrote: > > Also, does anyone know of any other free IMAP accounts -- > > I'd like to add them to my "Changing Your From Header in > > Pine" page. > > http://www.telebot.net/ According to http://www.telebot.net/details.htm they use POP. Do they also use IMAP and just aren't putting that on their web page? Ob Pine comment: It's great to be able to use Pine to access free email accounts! -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:38:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA11862 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA31338; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:38:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA06333; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:37:51 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA42184 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:33:35 -0700 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA10007 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:33:34 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id LAA09848 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faculty.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25631; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:33:33 PDT Received: from l2122.usc.edu by faculty.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23093; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:33:32 PDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:32:49 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: adding multiple addresses into one distribution list Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I am trying to figure out if Pine supports taking multiple email addresses and putting them into an addressbook distribution list, regardless of whether the emails are found in CC or the text email (the handy Pine select command would work great here). If not, this is my request that this feature be added so that users can take multiple addresses they receive and put them in a list, instead of one address at a time. Thanks, Robert ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:00:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA12108 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA31986; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:00:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA27427; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:58:56 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA29336 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:53:51 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA19993 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:53:50 -0700 Received: from spike by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA17507; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:57:41 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:58:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: adding multiple addresses into one distribution list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@spike X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Open message with the email addresses you want to add. T (Take) L (Listmode) <-- A (SetAll) <-- T (Take) again <-- Enter the name of your distro list. -- Shawn Jeffries ujefsh81@vetri.com On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > >Hi, > I am trying to figure out if Pine supports taking multiple email >addresses and putting them into an addressbook distribution list, >regardless of whether the emails are found in CC or the text email (the >handy Pine select command would work great here). If not, this is my >request that this feature be added so that users can take multiple >addresses they receive and put them in a list, instead of one address at a >time. > >Thanks, > >Robert > > > >``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` >` Robert Larmon ` >` PC Systems Analyst ` >` USC Law School Computing Services ` >` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` >''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:04:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA08392 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA23057; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:04:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA07564; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:03:47 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA37848 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:53:58 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA20008 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 11:53:55 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1430"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9U0AHD6WC002H4G@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: adding multiple addresses into one distribution list In-Reply-To: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@shell13.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When you are on the Take Address screen, type L to go into List Mode, X the addresses you want to put in the distribution list, type T to take these and you're on your way. -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA12793 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA24464; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:53:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA00663; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:52:40 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA36780 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:48:19 -0700 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA01583 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:48:19 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id MAA09969 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:48:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faculty.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26230; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:48:18 PDT Received: from l2122.usc.edu by faculty.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24329; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:48:17 PDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:48:13 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: adding multiple addresses into one distribution list In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Doh! I remember reading about this once, but it was a while ago. Anyone know where the docs for it are? I couldn't find it on the web site...Thanks to all who replied. RCL On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Jeff wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > I am trying to figure out if Pine supports taking multiple email > > addresses and putting them into an addressbook distribution list, > > T (take) > L (list mode) > > -jeff > -- .~. L > Jeff Schaller | Voice: (316) 946-7255 /V\ I > UNIX System Administrator | Fax: (316) 946-2809 // \\ N > I do not speak for the Bombardier Aerospace Group. /( )\ U > -- <`~'> X > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:04:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA13233 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:04:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA00940; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:04:20 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA01580; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:04:11 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA34236 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:58:13 -0700 Received: from hq.capu.net (hq.capu.net [205.252.27.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA03151 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:58:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.capu.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26777; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:58:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:58:07 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Death's Angel" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: adding multiple addresses into one distribution list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Larmon X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: highway@hq.capu.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > Doh! I remember reading about this once, but it was a while ago. Anyone > know where the docs for it are? I couldn't find it on the web > site...Thanks to all who replied. Keystrokes are: T (take) - L (list) - (X) select - (T) take selected names and save to addressbook. > > RCL > > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Jeff wrote: > > > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > I am trying to figure out if Pine supports taking multiple email > > > addresses and putting them into an addressbook distribution list, > > > > T (take) > > L (list mode) > > > > -jeff > > -- .~. L > > Jeff Schaller | Voice: (316) 946-7255 /V\ I > > UNIX System Administrator | Fax: (316) 946-2809 // \\ N > > I do not speak for the Bombardier Aerospace Group. /( )\ U > > -- <`~'> X > > > > > > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` > ` Robert Larmon ` > ` PC Systems Analyst ` > ` USC Law School Computing Services ` > ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` > ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' > > -- John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net http://www.vni.net/~highway/APhiO Welcome to the RIM The Central Perk Coffee House http://www.vni.net/~highway http://www.vni.net/~highway/Friends -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ICQ: 7644401**highway@the-dixiechicks.com**IM: JohnHwyWu (w)/JohnHwy (h)] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA12852 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA01095; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:10:04 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA12295; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:09:38 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA34146 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:58:56 -0700 Received: from hq.capu.net (hq.capu.net [205.252.27.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA03302 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 12:58:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (highway@localhost) by hq.capu.net (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA26839; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:58:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Death's Angel" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: adding multiple addresses into one distribution list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Larmon X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: highway@hq.capu.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My Apologies... didn't see the response to originating post. Sorry. -- John "Highway" Tze-Chang Wu Alpha Phi Omega Nat'l Svc Fraternity highway@vni.net http://www.vni.net/~highway/APhiO Welcome to the RIM The Central Perk Coffee House http://www.vni.net/~highway http://www.vni.net/~highway/Friends -------------------------------------------------------------------------- [ICQ: 7644401**highway@the-dixiechicks.com**IM: JohnHwyWu (w)/JohnHwy (h)] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:54:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA13985 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:54:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA26314; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:54:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id NAA13948; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:54:01 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA36490 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:46:14 -0700 Received: from gw.learjet.com (firewall-user@gw.learjet.com [192.206.89.4]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA00849 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:46:13 -0700 Received: by gw.learjet.com; id PAA13262; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:46:08 -0500 (CDT) Received: from hs8.learjet.com(172.18.126.238) by gw.learjet.com via smap (4.1) id xma013142; Fri, 9 Apr 99 15:45:29 -0500 Received: from hx02.learjet.com (schaller@hx02.learjet.com [172.18.126.91]) by hs8.learjet.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA27858; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:45:27 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (schaller@localhost) by hx02.learjet.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA26727; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:45:26 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:45:26 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: adding multiple addresses into one distribution list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Robert Larmon X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , webmaster@www.washington.edu, help@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: hx02.learjet.com: schaller owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > Doh! I remember reading about this once, but it was a while ago. Anyone > know where the docs for it are? I couldn't find it on the web > site...Thanks to all who replied. I found it just looking at the online pine help; the online version appears broken: http://www.washington.edu/computing/docs/pine.html to http://www.washington.edu/computing/docs/paddress.html results in (even after reload): URL Not Found http://www.washington.edu/computing/docs/paddress.html was not found or is no longer on this server. Please check the URL (misspellings, capitalization, etc.) and try again, or if you came to this page via a link, you might try using your browser's Reload (or Refresh) button on that page in case the link has changed. If you are still getting this error after a reload, please notify the maintainer of that page notifying them of the invalid link. There was no owner set for http://www.washington.edu/computing/docs/pine.html so I'm sending this also to any possible webmaster and also an address listed on that page. A little more exploring resulted in success: http://www.washington.edu/pine/tutorial.4/index.html#Addressbook under "Using the addressbook". -jeff -- .~. L Jeff Schaller | Voice: (316) 946-7255 /V\ I UNIX System Administrator | Fax: (316) 946-2809 // \\ N I do not speak for the Bombardier Aerospace Group. /( )\ U -- <`~'> X From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:05:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA13563 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:05:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA26670; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:05:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA15462; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:05:25 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA09098 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:00:45 -0700 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA07071 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:00:45 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id OAA10261; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faculty.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26790; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:00:28 PDT Received: from l2122.usc.edu by faculty.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25496; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:00:27 PDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:00:23 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: adding multiple addresses into one distribution list In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jeff X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Cool, thanks. I will never forget list mode now :) RCL On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Jeff wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Robert Larmon wrote: > > > > > Doh! I remember reading about this once, but it was a while ago. Anyone > > know where the docs for it are? I couldn't find it on the web > > site...Thanks to all who replied. > > I found it just looking at the online pine help; the online version > appears broken: > http://www.washington.edu/computing/docs/pine.html > to > http://www.washington.edu/computing/docs/paddress.html > > results in (even after reload): > URL Not Found > > http://www.washington.edu/computing/docs/paddress.html was not > found or is no longer on this server. > > Please check the URL (misspellings, capitalization, etc.) and try > again, or if you came to this page via a link, you might try using > your browser's Reload (or Refresh) button on that page in case the > link has changed. If you are still getting this error after a > reload, please notify the maintainer of that page notifying them of > the invalid link. > > There was no owner set for > http://www.washington.edu/computing/docs/pine.html > so I'm sending this also to any possible webmaster and also an > address listed on that page. > > A little more exploring resulted in success: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/tutorial.4/index.html#Addressbook > under "Using the addressbook". > > -jeff > -- .~. L > Jeff Schaller | Voice: (316) 946-7255 /V\ I > UNIX System Administrator | Fax: (316) 946-2809 // \\ N > I do not speak for the Bombardier Aerospace Group. /( )\ U > -- <`~'> X > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA06346 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA03715; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:53:41 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA17727; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:53:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA36690 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:49:27 -0700 Received: from ruby (ruby.co.clark.nv.us [198.200.132.17]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA14656 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:49:26 -0700 Received: by ruby; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA09529; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:49:18 -0700 Received: from pyrite.co.clark.nv.us by mailhub.co.clark.nv.us (PMDF V5.1-12 #29712) with SMTP id <01J9U05D2I8C000F18@mailhub.co.clark.nv.us>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 14:49:16 PDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 14:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Joseph Scanlan Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joseph Scanlan To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: How to make outlook spit thoses eaten emails? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-To: Nancy McGough X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Nancy McGough wrote: > According to > > http://www.telebot.net/details.htm > > they use POP. Do they also use IMAP and just aren't > putting that on their web page? Yes, they have an IMAP server. I found them on a list of free e-mail providers with Web clients. The comments mentioned IMAP. I've used both Telebot and MailAndNews and have settled on MailAndNews. Not that Telebot was bad, I just liked MailAndNews better. It is nice having all my inboxes available from Pine. Our GroupWise server is set up for IMAP4 now. I've had some trouble with 3.95 and GroupWise that I've learned to work around. Pine 4.10 was a llittle more dificult to deal with (but the Roles feature is great). I read on this list that I should recompile it with the beta IMAP libraries but I haven't taken the time to do it yet. ------------- My opinions are mine alone, and that fact ------------- ------------- provides intense relief for my coworkers. ------------- Joe Scanlan Clark County CEIT Systems Programmer fax 702 455-4932 n7xsd@qsl.net (not work) PO Box 551761 jps@co.clark.nv.us (work) Las Vegas, NV, 89155-1761, USA -------------------- http://www.co.clark.nv.us/ --------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA09856 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:12:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA04200; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:12:51 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA19121; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:12:45 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id PAA14246 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:08:50 -0700 Received: from ruby (ruby.co.clark.nv.us [198.200.132.17]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id PAA23101 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:08:49 -0700 Received: by ruby; (5.65v3.2/1.3/10May95) id AA10787; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:08:46 -0700 Received: from pyrite.co.clark.nv.us by mailhub.co.clark.nv.us (PMDF V5.1-12 #29712) with SMTP id <01J9U0TG4WCO000CV9@mailhub.co.clark.nv.us>; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 15:08:41 PDT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 15:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joseph Scanlan To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: File privacy In-Reply-To: <0089B6FA4F0DD211AD4E0001FA7E5055B844D0@POISON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT X-To: George Gallen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, George Gallen wrote: > How would encrypting files help, if the ISP gets the > unencrypted files first then forwards them to the pine > reader? If the ISP has backups of all mail > incoming/outgoing, they can read it in plain english, > unless of course you are sending/receiving encrypted > emails. Agreed. The files must remain encrypted the entire time they are on the ISP's system. I expect I've overlooked a lot of other points. I don't do the encryption thing myself. I don't say anything in my e-mail that others would want to read... err.. perhaps I should say "that I mind strangers reading". ;-) ------------- My opinions are mine alone, and that fact ------------- ------------- provides intense relief for my coworkers. ------------- Joe Scanlan Clark County CEIT Systems Programmer fax 702 455-4932 n7xsd@qsl.net (not work) PO Box 551761 jps@co.clark.nv.us (work) Las Vegas, NV, 89155-1761, USA -------------------- http://www.co.clark.nv.us/ --------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:35:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA16276 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA30994; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:35:34 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA13097; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:35:23 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA14272 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:31:04 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA20767 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:31:01 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA26113 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 21:34:55 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Fri, 9 Apr 99 14:34 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA14714 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:28:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 16:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Intresting Feature... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can someone confirm this for me. I just created a ``mailbox'' which is a symbolic link to /dev/null, and it does not show up in my folder list. Can anyone explain why this is happening? It's an intresting feature, and seems to be entirely linked to the fact that the folder points to /dev/null. As any other combination I have tried, seems to put the folder up. Thanks a lot... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:46:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA04124 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:46:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA07597; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:46:02 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA15944; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:45:56 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA40490 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:41:50 -0700 Received: from mail1.csun.edu (mail1.csun.edu [130.166.1.23]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA32534 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:41:49 -0700 Received: from csun.edu (s011n078.csun.edu [130.166.11.78]) by mail1.csun.edu (2.0.3/SMS 2.0.3) with ESMTP id RAA50852 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 17:45:17 -0700 Message-Id: <370E9E5C.BA813B04@csun.edu> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 17:42:04 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ovanes Manucharyan To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: interrupted composition MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Our users are reporting problems with pine 3.96's interrupted composition feature..... We are running pine on HP UX 10.20 operating system Sometimes the feature works, yet other times it doesn't work. After a system hickup(reboot), our users complain that their interrupted compositions are not there anymore. I suspect this is because the /tmp directory got cleaned. Am I right? What about during other times... Why doesn't this feature work consistently... Users are dialing over modem. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:30:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA29037 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:30:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA01057; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:30:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA28704; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:30:22 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA33968 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:26:18 -0700 Received: from sos.sos.net (root@sos.net [209.20.224.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA12609 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:26:17 -0700 Received: from [209.20.225.204] (sos-dialup204.nwlink.com [209.20.225.204]) by sos.sos.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA25882; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:26:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:25:51 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: interrupted composition In-Reply-To: <370E9E5C.BA813B04@csun.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ovanes Manucharyan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: leibrand@bp12.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I noticed that with Pine 4.05 we had some similar problems with interrupted messages here at the UW. The machines we're running Pine on are only rebooted when they freeze, which occurs very seldom, so I don't know about the reboot thing you're experiencing. What did seem to be happening was that if a user was connected via telnet composing a message and was disconnected (either because the modem lost its connection or if we purposefully closed the telnet program), Pine would only write the interrupted message file some of the time. (The interrupted message file, whose name I don't remember, was stored by default in the user's home directory.) What I noticed was that if the message was bigger than about 3-4 k (as measured by the size of the interrupted-message file), it wouldn't save it. If this is similar to what you're experiencing, I may be able to find out from our Pine people what the problem was. In any event, upgrading to Pine 4.10 fixed it. Hope that sheds some light on your problem... -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On 9 Apr 1999, Ovanes Manucharyan wrote: > Our users are reporting problems with pine 3.96's interrupted > composition feature..... > We are running pine on HP UX 10.20 operating system > > Sometimes the feature works, yet other times it doesn't work. > > After a system hickup(reboot), our users complain that their interrupted > compositions > are not there anymore. I suspect this is because the /tmp directory got > cleaned. > Am I right? > > What about during other times... Why doesn't this feature work > consistently... > > Users are dialing over modem. > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 03:30:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA25007 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 03:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA15209 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 03:30:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id DAA08817; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 03:27:21 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA41884 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 03:22:33 -0700 Received: from kleopatra.acc.umu.se (root@kleopatra.acc.umu.se [130.239.18.150]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA26472 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 03:22:32 -0700 Received: from vasa.acc.umu.se (tao@vasa.acc.umu.se [130.239.18.136]) by kleopatra.acc.umu.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA24508; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:22:18 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:22:18 +0200 (MET_DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Weinehall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Intresting Feature... In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jessica Rasku X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > Can someone confirm this for me. I just created a ``mailbox'' > which is a symbolic link to /dev/null, and it does not show up in my > folder list. Can anyone explain why this is happening? It's an > intresting feature, and seems to be entirely linked to the fact that the > folder points to /dev/null. As any other combination I have tried, seems > to put the folder up. Thanks a lot... It couldn't be that you've selected "Don't show empty folders", have you? /David Weinehall _ _ // David Weinehall /> Northern lights wander \\ // Project MCA Linux hacker // Dance across the winter sky // \> http://www.acc.umu.se/~tao/ Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 05:58:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA28225 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 05:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA09312 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 05:58:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id FAA10424; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 05:56:34 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA14302 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 05:51:50 -0700 Received: from wanadoo.fr (root@smtp-out-001.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.68]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA09026 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 05:51:48 -0700 Received: from tnttls20-253.abo.wanadoo.fr [164.138.93.253] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:51:21 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:52:40 +0200 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Junichi Saito To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: start-up slowness MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: junichi@saito X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When invoked, while I am connected to the net, pine seems to be very slow to be loaded. I have a vague impression that this may have something to do with name look-up. Could some knowledgeable people tell me what exactly can cause this slowness and how I can fix this, if ever possible ? I usually experience this slowness, when I run pine in xterm. mails are downloaded by fechmail. I don't read them on-line. The version is 4.10, and the system, a linux with glibc 2.1. junichi -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:10:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA27829 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:10:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA20142 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:10:37 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA15181; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:08:24 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA10736 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:03:40 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA20831 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:03:40 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA20058 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:03:39 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA16143; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:02:54 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:02:54 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: no mouse in "to folders" for fcc and save MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm using Pine 4.10 under Solaris 2.6 in an xterm window with Pine configured to allow me to use the mouse. I just discovered two places where it should allow me to use the mouse, but it doesn't. One is in fcc when I go "to folders (^T)". The other is when I save a message and go "to folders (^T)". In both cases, a click of the select button (left button) does not move the cursor to the appropriate folder, it is interpreted as a 'return' and the default folder is selected. This has to be a bug. The mouse works great in other situations. Thanks much for pine! Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA29711 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:16:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA12378 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:16:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA04150; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:14:25 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA08668 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:09:55 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA25123 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:09:55 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA12306 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:09:54 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA16178; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:09:09 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:09:09 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: multiple folders in fcc? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN A feature I could use in pine: a comma delimited list of folders in fcc. I often save messages by date in one folder and by topic in several other folders. Sometimes a message is saved in three places. So it would be good for me if I could enter three folders in fcc. As it stands, it seems to allow only one folder. Good idea, maybe? Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA06366 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:22:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA12454 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:22:11 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA04343; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:20:13 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA46706 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:16:00 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA25462 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:16:00 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA12369 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:15:59 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA16207; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:15:14 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:15:14 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: TAB filename completion in fcc? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN One last idea: Allow TAB to complete folder names in fcc. In pine we can configure so that TAB will complete a filename. That works great when using save or goto or when inserting a file. It seems not to work in fcc. Having TAB completion in fcc is definitely a feature I could use. Thanks again for a great product! Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA30719 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:23:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA14054 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:23:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA19001; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:21:34 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA48568 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:17:07 -0700 Received: from qrnik.knm.org.pl (pb207.warszawa.ppp.tpnet.pl [212.160.53.207]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA28570 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:17:05 -0700 Received: (from news@localhost) by qrnik.knm.org.pl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07029 for Pine Discussion Forum ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:50:54 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:50:48 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Marcin 'Qrczak' Kowalczyk" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: TAB filename completion in fcc? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Trace: qrnik.knm.org.pl 923770249 7027 127.0.0.1 (10 Apr 1999 18:50:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@qrnik.knm.org.pl X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Mike Miller pisze: > One last idea: Allow TAB to complete folder names in fcc. And another: as nicknames can contain 8bit chars and there is an fcc-name-rule of by-nickname, entering Fcc by hand should allow 8bit chars as well. -- __("< Marcin Kowalczyk * qrczak@knm.org.pl http://kki.net.pl/qrczak/ \__/ GCS/M d- s+:-- a22 C+++>+++$ UL++>++++$ P+++ L++>++++$ E->++ ^^ W++ N+++ o? K? w(---) O? M- V? PS-- PE++ Y? PGP->+ t QRCZAK 5? X- R tv-- b+>++ DI D- G+ e>++++ h! r--%>++ y- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA00404 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:48:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA19840; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:48:51 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA29736; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:48:42 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA24042 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:44:16 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA23449 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:44:13 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA09540; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:48:00 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Sat, 10 Apr 99 17:48 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22669; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:32:23 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:32:21 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Intresting Feature... In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David Weinehall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, David Weinehall wrote: > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > > Can someone confirm this for me. I just created a ``mailbox'' > > which is a symbolic link to /dev/null, and it does not show up in my > > folder list. Can anyone explain why this is happening? It's an > > intresting feature, and seems to be entirely linked to the fact that the > > folder points to /dev/null. As any other combination I have tried, seems > > to put the folder up. Thanks a lot... > > It couldn't be that you've selected "Don't show empty folders", have you? I don't think so... It shows empty folders (cat /dev/null > folder is shown). That feature of course would be a bit of a benifit, but not really.... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:52:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA00309 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:52:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA27252; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:52:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA29905; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:52:41 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA43634 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:44:28 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA23452 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:44:24 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id AAA09544; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 00:48:03 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Sat, 10 Apr 99 17:48 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA22690; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:38:24 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:38:23 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: start-up slowness In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Junichi Saito X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Junichi Saito wrote: > When invoked, while I am connected to the net, pine seems to be very slow > to be loaded. I have a vague impression that this may have something to do > with name look-up. Could some knowledgeable people tell me what exactly > can cause this slowness and how I can fix this, if ever possible ? My feeling (and this may be confirmed by others), is that this is related to pine being removed from your buffers, or possibly from there being page swaping in the case of using X. I suspect, that your problem could be fixed by adding more RAM to your system. At least, based on my experience, I think that is what may help me with the slow loading of Pine in some situations. I COULD be way off base though. Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:15:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA01382 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA28234; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:15:37 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA17525; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:15:31 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA34692 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:11:42 -0700 Received: from acacia.datacomm.com (ted@acacia.datacomm.com [205.147.65.193]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA27983 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:11:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (ted@localhost) by acacia.datacomm.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA14896 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:11:37 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ted Rolle To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine and PGP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Has anyone simply and effectively interfaced PGP 5.0 with pine 4+? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:57:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA28737 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:57:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA28761; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:57:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA03020; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:56:55 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA20526 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:53:17 -0700 Received: from quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca [198.164.200.18]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA21412 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:53:17 -0700 Received: from fedracbsd.nbtel.net ([207.179.139.236]) by quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 607-54382U75000L75000S0V35) with ESMTP id AAA28909; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:53:16 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 02:41:37 -0300 (ADT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Marco Shaw To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and PGP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ted Rolle X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: marco@fedracbsd.nbtel.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN http://www.freebsdzine.org/199902/features/pgp.shtml Marco On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Ted Rolle wrote: > Has anyone simply and effectively interfaced PGP 5.0 with pine 4+? > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA01468 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:23:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA21803; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:23:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA19123; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:23:05 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA35538 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:19:19 -0700 Received: from acacia.datacomm.com (ted@acacia.datacomm.com [205.147.65.193]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA14332 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:19:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (ted@localhost) by acacia.datacomm.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA21085; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:19:10 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:19:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ted Rolle To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and PGP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Marco Shaw X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thank you for the pointer! I read the article and wrote to the author about a problem: I couldn't find the pgp scripts that were mentioned in the article: pgpencrypt, pgpdecode, and pgpsign. Ted On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Marco Shaw wrote: > > http://www.freebsdzine.org/199902/features/pgp.shtml > > Marco > > On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Ted Rolle wrote: > > > Has anyone simply and effectively interfaced PGP 5.0 with pine 4+? > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA29009 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA22019; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:41:58 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA19358; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:41:55 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA12526 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:38:15 -0700 Received: from unik.net (rewt@cpu182.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com [207.236.226.186]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA28758 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:38:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (fallen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unik.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA10859; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:36:20 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:36:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Prince Of Angels To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and PGP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Ted Rolle X-Sender: masial@unik.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:19:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Ted Rolle > > Thank you for the pointer! I read the article and wrote to the author > about a problem: I couldn't find the pgp scripts that were mentioned in > the article: pgpencrypt, pgpdecode, and pgpsign. I think this might help: punk:~$ pgp PGP is now invoked from different executables for different operations: pgpe Encrypt (including Encrypt/Sign) pgps Sign pgpv Verify/Decrypt pgpk Key management pgpo PGP 2.6.2 command-line simulator (not yet implemented) See each application's respective man page or the general PGP documentation for more information. So you might wana try pgpe and pgps :) Cheers, Masial > Ted > > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Marco Shaw wrote: > > > > > http://www.freebsdzine.org/199902/features/pgp.shtml > > > > Marco > > > > On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Ted Rolle wrote: > > > > > Has anyone simply and effectively interfaced PGP 5.0 with pine 4+? > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:55:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA01854 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:55:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA22193; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:55:16 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA04375; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:55:04 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA48452 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:51:34 -0700 Received: from acacia.datacomm.com (ted@acacia.datacomm.com [205.147.65.193]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA29339 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:51:32 -0700 Received: from localhost (ted@localhost) by acacia.datacomm.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA21140; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:51:16 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:51:16 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ted Rolle To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and PGP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Prince Of Angels X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well, it seems that the sending filter (mailpart.c, lines 4145-4255) replaces only the first occurrence of _TMPFILE_ (a bug, IMNSHO). The command I want to execute is: /usr/local/bin/pgpe -tar _RECIPIENTS_ _TMPFILE_ -o _TMPFILE_ I wrote a script PGPE that has this: pgpe $1 $2 -o $2 it seems to work. But, I'd rather use an 'approved' method -- if it exists. Ted On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Prince Of Angels wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 22:19:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ted Rolle > > > > Thank you for the pointer! I read the article and wrote to the author > > about a problem: I couldn't find the pgp scripts that were mentioned in > > the article: pgpencrypt, pgpdecode, and pgpsign. > > I think this might help: > > punk:~$ pgp > PGP is now invoked from different executables for different operations: > > pgpe Encrypt (including Encrypt/Sign) > pgps Sign > pgpv Verify/Decrypt > pgpk Key management > pgpo PGP 2.6.2 command-line simulator (not yet implemented) > > See each application's respective man page or the general PGP > documentation > for more information. > > So you might wana try pgpe and pgps :) > > Cheers, > Masial > > > Ted > > > > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Marco Shaw wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.freebsdzine.org/199902/features/pgp.shtml > > > > > > Marco > > > > > > On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Ted Rolle wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone simply and effectively interfaced PGP 5.0 with pine 4+? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:23:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA07014 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:23:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA00128; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:23:25 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id DAA06936; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:23:12 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA35996 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:19:03 -0700 Received: from wanadoo.fr (root@smtp-out-002.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.69]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA09760 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 03:19:02 -0700 Received: from tnttls16-5.abo.wanadoo.fr [164.138.202.5] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:18:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 12:20:32 +0200 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Junichi Saito To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: start-up slowness In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: junichi@saito X-To: Jessica Rasku X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: >On Sat, 10 Apr 1999, Junichi Saito wrote: > >> When invoked, while I am connected to the net, pine seems to be very slow >> to be loaded. I have a vague impression that this may have something to do >> with name look-up. Could some knowledgeable people tell me what exactly >> can cause this slowness and how I can fix this, if ever possible ? > > My feeling (and this may be confirmed by others), is that this is >related to pine being removed from your buffers, or possibly from there >being page swaping in the case of using X. I suspect, that your problem >could be fixed by adding more RAM to your system. At least, based on my >experience, I think that is what may help me with the slow loading of Pine >in some situations. I COULD be way off base though. > > > Jessica > >-- >Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, >LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. It wasn't exact when I wrote in my initial mail that I experienced the problem mentioned usually under X. In fact, whether I invoke pine from console or under X, there is a long delay (some ten's seconds) before it comes up if I am connected. As for the amount of ram, my machine has 64 megs. Although this isn't a huge amount nowadays, may be sufficient, as I am the unique user. junichi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA01954 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:33:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA26607; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:33:35 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id EAA08433; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:33:24 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA16394 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:29:28 -0700 Received: from quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (mailserv.nbnet.nb.ca [198.164.200.18]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA08302 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 04:29:27 -0700 Received: from fedracbsd.nbtel.net ([207.179.190.249]) by quartz.nbnet.nb.ca (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 607-54382U75000L75000S0V35) with ESMTP id AAA23818; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 08:29:26 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:17:48 -0300 (ADT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Marco Shaw To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and PGP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ted Rolle X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: marco@fedracbsd.nbtel.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Thank you for the pointer! I read the article and wrote to the author > about a problem: I couldn't find the pgp scripts that were mentioned in > the article: pgpencrypt, pgpdecode, and pgpsign. What are you running and how did you get Pine? I didn't have those files either with RedHat 5.2, but have them with FreeBSD 3.1. Marco From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:38:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA06255 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:38:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA04813; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:38:39 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA12375; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:38:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA45170 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:34:39 -0700 Received: from acacia.datacomm.com (ted@acacia.datacomm.com [205.147.65.193]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA21927 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:34:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (ted@localhost) by acacia.datacomm.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA22081; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:34:15 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:34:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ted Rolle To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and PGP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Marco Shaw X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN AHA! The article is in FreeBSDzine, and could be expected to have those files. I am running a home-grown-what-WAS-RH5.0-but-now-has-kernel-2.2.3-in-it version of Linux. Can you send me the files? On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Marco Shaw wrote: > > > Thank you for the pointer! I read the article and wrote to the author > > about a problem: I couldn't find the pgp scripts that were mentioned in > > the article: pgpencrypt, pgpdecode, and pgpsign. > > What are you running and how did you get Pine? I didn't have those files > either with RedHat 5.2, but have them with FreeBSD 3.1. > > Marco > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:46:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA11894 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:46:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA30284; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:46:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA29023; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:46:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA34210 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:42:25 -0700 Received: from acacia.datacomm.com (ted@acacia.datacomm.com [205.147.65.193]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA07066 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:42:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (ted@localhost) by acacia.datacomm.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA22104 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:42:14 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:42:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ted Rolle To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and PGP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I got pine from u.washington.edu -- where it's written. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA11839 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA30422; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:58:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA01626; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:58:36 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA31990 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:54:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA17669 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:54:48 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA05010 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 09:54:48 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA23326; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:54:01 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 11:54:01 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: format of .addressbook MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm trying to understand the format of the .addressbook file that pine produces. I've written some scripts that can grab lines out of the file for me, but they don't always work correctly. What is being used to delimit a record? I wanted to be able to search for a string in the comment field and show every matching record. What I've done (below) usually works well for me, but it misses some records. It seems that the Comments are usually on a second line beginning with three spaces, but sometimes they are at the end of the first line of the record preceeded by two tabs. It seems like this is determined by the length of strings in the name and address fields. Any help will be appreciated! Regards, Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To grab records with some string in the comment field: #!/usr/local/bin/tcsh -f foreach N ( `egrep -n "$1" ~/.addressbook | egrep ': ' | awk -F: '{print $1 - 1}'` ) tail +$N ~/.addressbook | head -2 | fmt -w 75 echo "" end ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To grab records with some string in another (non-comment) field: #!/usr/local/bin/tcsh -f foreach N ( `egrep -n "$1" ~/.addressbook | egrep -v ': ' | awk -F: '{print $1}'` ) tail +$N ~/.addressbook | head -1 | fmt -w 75 tail +$N ~/.addressbook | tail +2 | head -1 | egrep '^ ' | fmt -w 75 echo "" end -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:47:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA11908 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA08624; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:47:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA06317; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:46:36 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA23878 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:42:18 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA06713 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:42:15 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA18602; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:45:52 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Sun, 11 Apr 99 12:45 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28637; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:36:50 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: start-up slowness In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Junichi Saito X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Junichi Saito wrote: > It wasn't exact when I wrote in my initial mail that I experienced the > problem mentioned usually under X. In fact, whether I invoke pine from > console or under X, there is a long delay (some ten's seconds) before it > comes up if I am connected. Is this every time you enter Pine? Or is this only the first time. Sounds like an attempt to make a connection, but you have indicated that Pine should not be doing that. For me it may be around 10 seconds or so when I start up when it is slow. But, if I startup, and then quit and return, it is almost imidiate responce... > As for the amount of ram, my machine has 64 megs. Although this isn't a > huge amount nowadays, may be sufficient, as I am the unique user. Now, this probably isn't the problem but some mother boards are not capable of handeling ``large'' amounts of memory. But, ussualy Linux complains bitterly if this is the case. 64 Meg for Linux should be plently unless you are running big applications or have multiple users on at a time (as in more than about 4 before you MAY start to see some sort of performance hit). Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:56:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA13079 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA01376; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:56:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA06528; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:55:58 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA34752 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:52:21 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA09839 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:52:17 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA18668; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 19:56:03 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Sun, 11 Apr 99 12:56 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA28731; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:48:16 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 14:48:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: format of .addressbook In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > I'm trying to understand the format of the .addressbook file that pine > produces. I've written some scripts that can grab lines out of the > file for me, but they don't always work correctly. What is being used > to delimit a record? This is what I have figured out nickname^Ifullname^Iaddresses^Ifcc^Icomment If it is longer than 1 line it seems to be split with the next line begining with white space (spaces). Address lists are indicated by parenthisis. It would be good if you could parse all fields out for your basic parser. That way you can maximise your capabilities.... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:44:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA09080 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:44:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA06662; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:44:40 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA16116; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:29:12 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA16422 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:09:55 -0700 Received: from numen.elon.edu (numen.elon.edu [152.33.3.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA21541 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:08:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (rose@localhost) by numen.elon.edu (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id XAA10345 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:05:37 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tony Rose To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Record Locks & Permissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In researching another problem today, my vendor found that the permissions were wrong on my /var/mail directory. I had been allowing write permissions for other and they removed it. /var/mail was drwxrwxrwx /var/mail now drwxrwxr-x However, now when users go into Pine, they get an error message saying that a lock cannot be established on var/mail/xxx. Operation seems to be fine sending and receiving mail. But this error is annoying. Why does Pine need this lock, and can it do it somewhere else other than /var/mail? My vendor says that the permissions on /var/mail should stay as they have left them. How do others get arround this? ________________________________ Tony Rose Elon College Unix/Email Administrator E: rose@elon.edu V: (336)538-6815 F: (336)584-2447 2400 Campus Box Elon College, NC 27244 ________________________________ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA17708 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:41:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA08064; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:41:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA29484; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:26:45 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA34594 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:05:11 -0700 Received: from olive.cac.washington.edu (olive.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.99]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA23094 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:24:00 -0700 Received: from ldsl233.sttl.uswest.net by olive.cac.washington.edu (NeXT-1.0 (From Sendmail 5.52)/UW-NDC Revision: 2.21 ) id AA04500; Sun, 11 Apr 99 20:23:59 PDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:24:01 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: start-up slowness In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Running "pine -d 9" and examining the resulting .pine-debug1 file should yield some insight into what is taking so long. -teg > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Junichi Saito wrote: > > > It wasn't exact when I wrote in my initial mail that I experienced the > > problem mentioned usually under X. In fact, whether I invoke pine from > > console or under X, there is a long delay (some ten's seconds) before it > > comes up if I am connected. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:06:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA11111 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:06:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA08492; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:06:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA15403; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:05:14 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA45158 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:47:56 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA22637 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:19:34 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA05881 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:19:34 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA04065; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:18:46 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:18:46 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: format of .addressbooky In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: JR> On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Mike Miller wrote: JR> JR> > I'm trying to understand the format of the .addressbook file JR> > that pine produces. I've written some scripts that can grab JR> > lines out of the file for me, but they don't always work JR> > correctly. What is being used to delimit a record? JR> JR> This is what I have figured out JR> JR> nickname^Ifullname^Iaddresses^Ifcc^Icomment JR> JR> If it is longer than 1 line it seems to be split with the next line JR> begining with white space (spaces). Address lists are indicated by JR> parenthisis. It would be good if you could parse all fields out for your JR> basic parser. That way you can maximise your capabilities.... Thanks for looking into this. It seems to me that .addressbook is using two kinds of field separators: a simple tab, or a tab-newline-SPACE-SPACE-SPACE combination. With this mixed format, records may be on one line, or two lines or three lines depending on several unimportant things like the number of characters in the e-mail address. Is there a good reason for this choice of format? If not, I would greatly prefer to have one line per record, tab delimited. Then we could easily use programs like awk to work with our .addressbook file. It is a pretty useful thing to be able to store lots of stuff in there and easily access it. On the other hand, I'm not an awk wizard and I don't know if awk can handle the file as it is. If anyone can figure it out, I'd love to hear about it. Regards, Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA11601 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA08875; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:28:21 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA29771; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:27:31 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA08594 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:58:13 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA20429 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:56:29 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id DAA21765; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:00:04 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Sun, 11 Apr 99 20:00 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA30932; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:50:17 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:50:15 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tony Rose X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Tony Rose wrote: > > In researching another problem today, my vendor found that the permissions > were wrong on my /var/mail directory. I had been allowing write > permissions for other and they removed it. > > /var/mail was drwxrwxrwx > /var/mail now drwxrwxr-x > > However, now when users go into Pine, they get an error message saying > that a lock cannot be established on var/mail/xxx. Operation seems to be > fine sending and receiving mail. But this error is annoying. Why does Pine > need this lock, and can it do it somewhere else other than /var/mail? My > vendor says that the permissions on /var/mail should stay as they have > left them. How do others get arround this? Your vendor is wrong. The permisions should be: armispian:~$ ls -ld ~mail drwxrwxrwt 2 root mail 1024 Apr 11 21:00 /var/spool/mail/ I believe (I could be mistaken here), that is 1777. I also believe that Pine probably complains if your mail spool is 0777 as you had it setup, but I could be mistaken. I KNOW that I read this somewhere, it is in the release notes, if you do a ``wheris'' for lock, it will come up, with a fairly thorough explanation in the ``what system managers should know about file locking''. Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA18366 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id XAA09469; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:04:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA18584; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:48:59 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA08518 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:37:18 -0700 Received: from unik.net (rewt@cpu182.adsl.qc.bellglobal.com [207.236.226.186]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA30473 for ; Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:40:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (fallen@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by unik.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA13734; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:32:18 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:32:17 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Prince Of Angels To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tony Rose X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: masial@unik.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Tony Rose wrote: > > In researching another problem today, my vendor found that the permissions > were wrong on my /var/mail directory. I had been allowing write > permissions for other and they removed it. > > /var/mail was drwxrwxrwx > /var/mail now drwxrwxr-x As far as I know a world writable mail directory isnt a problem, as long as individual mail files arent. At worst you can get some stupid user ( then again, why would you have that ) to put some garbage in the directory.. > However, now when users go into Pine, they get an error message saying > that a lock cannot be established on var/mail/xxx. Operation seems to be > fine sending and receiving mail. But this error is annoying. Why does Pine > need this lock, and can it do it somewhere else other than /var/mail? My > vendor says that the permissions on /var/mail should stay as they have > left them. How do others get arround this? You would obviously get this error as pine tries to make a lock file and cannot. You need this lock to ensure that no mailbox corruption occurs when multiple processes try to access the file. Other dont go around it we live with it. As far as I'm concerned I never had a problem with this particular thing. You might also wana disable the locking (really evil) if you think its the right thing to do... I belive you might find the Pine FAQ interesting if you look at section 7.5 and folowing concerning lock files regarding this subject. ( I would paste you the info but at this time washinton.edu seems to be cut off by the verio.net pseudo-network ) As I remember tho they do adress this particular issue. Best Regards Masial From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA19065 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA00331; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:51:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id AAA02198; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:51:20 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA23978 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:46:10 -0700 Received: from wanadoo.fr (root@smtp-out-006.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.98]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id AAA00342 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:46:09 -0700 Received: from tls9-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [164.138.70.250] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:45:47 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:47:34 +0200 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Junichi Saito To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: start-up slowness In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: junichi@saito X-To: Jessica Rasku X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: >> It wasn't exact when I wrote in my initial mail that I experienced the >> problem mentioned usually under X. In fact, whether I invoke pine from >> console or under X, there is a long delay (some ten's seconds) before it >> comes up if I am connected. > > Is this every time you enter Pine? Or is this only the first >time. Sounds like an attempt to make a connection, but you have indicated >that Pine should not be doing that. For me it may be around 10 seconds or >so when I start up when it is slow. But, if I startup, and then quit and >return, it is almost imidiate responce... This happens each time I invoke pine, but only if I am connected. Otherwise, it starts immediately. I get mails using pop server, but IIRC pop support isn't implemented in pine yet. What I can tell is that there is a clear difference in behaviour whether I am connected or not. junichi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:32:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA20737 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:32:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA01184; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:32:22 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id BAA19065; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:32:13 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA45066 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:26:53 -0700 Received: from wanadoo.fr (root@smtp-out-003.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.78]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA02323 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:26:52 -0700 Received: from tnttls16-17.abo.wanadoo.fr [164.138.202.17] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:26:31 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:28:18 +0200 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Junichi Saito To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: start-up slowness In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: junichi@saito X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Terry Gray wrote: >Running "pine -d 9" and examining the resulting .pine-debug1 file should >yield some insight into what is taking so long. > >-teg I tried your suggestion and noticed this : About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" busy_alarm(1, Opening "INBOX", (nil), 1) q_status_message(Opening "INBOX" ) output_message(Opening "INBOX" ) STATUS cmd:120, max:1, min0 Done with IMAP critical on /var/mail/junichi <--- === mm_exists(1,/var/mail/junichi) called === Done with IMAP critical on /var/mail/junichi <--- These two lines are missing from the debug output, when pine is invoked while I am off-line. Is this a default behaviour and can it explain the slowness I experience ? junichi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA21066 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:57:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA13340; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:57:27 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id BAA19491; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:57:17 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA15958 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:52:12 -0700 Received: from gluon.zag.si (gluon.zag.si [193.2.24.5]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA03894 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 01:52:05 -0700 Received: from charm.zag.si (charm.zag.si [193.2.24.11]) by gluon.zag.si (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA15640 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:51:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:47:49 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jan Kalin To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: start-up slowness In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: jank@charm.zag.si X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Junichi Saito wrote: > > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > >> It wasn't exact when I wrote in my initial mail that I experienced the > >> problem mentioned usually under X. In fact, whether I invoke pine from > >> console or under X, there is a long delay (some ten's seconds) before it > >> comes up if I am connected. > > > > Is this every time you enter Pine? Or is this only the first > >time. Sounds like an attempt to make a connection, but you have indicated > >that Pine should not be doing that. For me it may be around 10 seconds or > >so when I start up when it is slow. But, if I startup, and then quit and > >return, it is almost imidiate responce... > > This happens each time I invoke pine, but only if I am connected. > Otherwise, it starts immediately. > > I get mails using pop server, but IIRC pop support isn't implemented in > pine yet. > > What I can tell is that there is a clear difference in behaviour whether I > am connected or not. Maybe the problem is that Pine is trying to use rsh. Find the line "rsh-open-timeout" in ".pinerc" and set the value to 0 (thereby disabling the rsh mode). Cheers, Jan -- Jan Kalin (male, preferred languages: Slovene, English) contact information From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA22693 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA02543; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:49:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id CAA20484; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:49:23 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA11792 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:44:38 -0700 Received: from wanadoo.fr (root@smtp-out-003.wanadoo.fr [193.252.19.78]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA06613 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:44:30 -0700 Received: from tls15-83.abo.wanadoo.fr [164.138.129.83] by wanadoo.fr for Paris Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:44:10 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:45:56 +0200 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Junichi Saito To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: start-up slowness In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: junichi@saito X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Jan Kalin wrote: >> What I can tell is that there is a clear difference in behaviour whether I >> am connected or not. > >Maybe the problem is that Pine is trying to use rsh. Find the line >"rsh-open-timeout" in ".pinerc" and set the value to 0 (thereby disabling >the rsh mode). The value was left blank, but with it set to 0, there subsists a noticeable delay when I am connected. Moreover the delay seems to have something to do with the number of mails available in my INBOX. Again, if invoked off-line, pine starts instantaneously. junichi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:53:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA12333 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:53:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA04273; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:53:55 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id EAA07046; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:53:38 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA14468 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:48:48 -0700 Received: from sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir ([194.225.42.50]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA10326 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 04:43:30 -0700 Received: from localhost (majid@localhost) by sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id QAA00190 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:14:28 +0430 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:14:26 +0430 (IDT) Reply-To: majid@bol.sharif.ac.ir Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Majid Tajamolian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Please help: IMAP connection timeout (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir: majid owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is this mailing list beneficial?! I am not sure! This is 3rd time that I send this mail to the list, but no answers as yet. Do someone receive my mails? Please reply even with no solution! -- I'm await, M. Tajamolian ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:25:24 +0430 (IDT) From: Majid Tajamolian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: IMAP connection timeout Dear LIST: I have a problem while trying to define a new folder in Incoming-Folders collection using IMAP. I receive the following error message from PINE ver 4.10 after about 25 seconds: [[CLOSED] IMAP connection broken (server response)] The server is located out of our LAN and it seems a timeout occurs due to our slowish connection line to the internet. Any suggestions to overcome this problem? -- THX in advance, M. Tajamolian -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA26631 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA04901; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:42:51 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id FAA07824; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:42:40 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA25926 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:38:32 -0700 Received: from morrison.matrox.com (morrison.matrox.com [204.50.136.19]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA24481 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:38:31 -0700 Received: (from mtxmail@localhost) by morrison.matrox.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA22980; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:38:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from venus.matrox.com(138.11.0.5) by morrison-250 via smap (V2.0) id xma022952; Mon, 12 Apr 99 08:38:04 -0400 Received: from pluton.matrox.com (pluton.matrox.com [138.11.0.2]) by venus.matrox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA24362; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:38:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pluton.matrox.com (pluton.matrox.com [192.168.145.6]) by pluton.matrox.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA23059; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:37:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Maxime Rousseau To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Please help: IMAP connection timeout (fwd) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Majid Tajamolian X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Majid Tajamolian wrote: > Is this mailing list beneficial?! I am not sure! This is 3rd time that I > send this mail to the list, but no answers as yet. Do someone receive my > mails? Please reply even with no solution! > > -- I'm await, > M. Tajamolian > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Tue, 6 Apr 1999 16:25:24 +0430 (IDT) > From: Majid Tajamolian > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: IMAP connection timeout > > Dear LIST: > I have a problem while trying to define a new folder in Incoming-Folders > collection using IMAP. I receive the following error message from PINE > ver 4.10 after about 25 seconds: > > [[CLOSED] IMAP connection broken (server response)] > > The server is located out of our LAN and it seems a timeout occurs due to > our slowish connection line to the internet. > Any suggestions to overcome this problem? > > -- THX in advance, > M. Tajamolian I am not sure if your error message if a local timeout or a server timeout ( or not a timeout at all for that matter ) but what I would recommend is to see if you do have pine's assume-slow-link enabled, and if that dosent solve it, go increase the timeouts on IMAP. If that -still- dosent fix it then you might wana get a new line (duh) or look for an error on the IMAP server's side. Of course you realise that this is a pine list and that if this last senario is what affects you then you would get more luck asking for help on a IMAP list. IMAP list info: http://www.washington.edu/imap/c-client-list.html IMAP newsgroup: comp.mail.imap Best luck to you, ------------------------------- Maxime Rousseau, SQA Multimedia Matrox Graphics Inc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA22527 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA05023; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:51:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id FAA25001; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:51:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA14508 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:47:50 -0700 Received: from localhost.localdomain (IDENT:richarde@kenn1227.bossig.com [208.26.241.227]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id FAA25014 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:47:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (richarde@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA00458; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:46:58 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 05:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: richarde@tricity.wsu.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: start-up slowness In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jan Kalin X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: richarde owned process doing -bs X-Sender: richarde@localhost.localdomain X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Try specifiying the imap port in your inbox path, ala {mail.whereever.com:143}INBOX. On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Jan Kalin wrote: > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Junichi Saito wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > > > >> It wasn't exact when I wrote in my initial mail that I experienced the > > >> problem mentioned usually under X. In fact, whether I invoke pine from > > >> console or under X, there is a long delay (some ten's seconds) before it > > >> comes up if I am connected. > > > > > > Is this every time you enter Pine? Or is this only the first > > >time. Sounds like an attempt to make a connection, but you have indicated > > >that Pine should not be doing that. For me it may be around 10 seconds or > > >so when I start up when it is slow. But, if I startup, and then quit and > > >return, it is almost imidiate responce... > > > > This happens each time I invoke pine, but only if I am connected. > > Otherwise, it starts immediately. > > > > I get mails using pop server, but IIRC pop support isn't implemented in > > pine yet. > > > > What I can tell is that there is a clear difference in behaviour whether I > > am connected or not. > > Maybe the problem is that Pine is trying to use rsh. Find the line > "rsh-open-timeout" in ".pinerc" and set the value to 0 (thereby disabling > the rsh mode). > > Cheers, Jan > > -- Richard Eisenman Supervisor, Computing and Telecommunications W.S.U. Tri-Cities, CIC 225E Office (509) 372-7381 Fax (509) 372-7281 richarde@tricity.wsu.edu http://www.tricity.wsu.edu/~richarde http:///www2.tricity.wsu.edu/ctc From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:18:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA28246 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:18:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA19393; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:18:09 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA27438; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:17:49 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA30968 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:13:29 -0700 Received: from monet.artisan.calpoly.edu (gwestlu@monet.artisan.calpoly.edu [129.65.60.33]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA26991 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:13:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (gwestlu@localhost) by monet.artisan.calpoly.edu (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id IAA18958; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:13:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:13:20 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: gwestlun@calpoly.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: gwestlu@polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tony Rose X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: monet.artisan.calpoly.edu: gwestlu owned process doing -bs X-Sender: gwestlu@monet.artisan.calpoly.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Tony Rose wrote: > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:05:37 -0400 (EDT) > From: Tony Rose > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Record Locks & Permissions > > In researching another problem today, my vendor found that the permissions > were wrong on my /var/mail directory. I had been allowing write > permissions for other and they removed it. > > /var/mail was drwxrwxrwx > /var/mail now drwxrwxr-x > > However, now when users go into Pine, they get an error message saying > that a lock cannot be established on var/mail/xxx. Operation seems to be > fine sending and receiving mail. But this error is annoying. Why does Pine > need this lock, and can it do it somewhere else other than /var/mail? My > vendor says that the permissions on /var/mail should stay as they have > left them. How do others get arround this? > > ________________________________ > Tony Rose Pine will stop complaining with /var/spool/mail or /var/mail, depending on your system, set as its supposed to if you make the pine executible SGID with a group of "mail". With many systems, daemon doesn't run as root and needs for all fo the files set to group write with a group of mail, the SGID with a group of mail for pine works with this. George L. Westlund || Internet: gwestlun@calpoly.edu ITS-UNIX/Distributed Systems || UNIX System:gwestlu@polymail.calpoly.edu Cal Poly || Phone/FAX: (805)756-6543/(805)756-1536 San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 || Web Page: http://www.calpoly.edu/~gwestlu/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:38:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA31928 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA11749; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:38:44 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA20298; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:38:09 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA34790 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:33:36 -0700 Received: from mail1.new-york.net (SYSTEM@mail1.new-york.net [165.254.2.54]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA16616 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:33:35 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1555"@aleph.ii.com) by mail1.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22885) with ESMTP id <01J9Y4D37WU6002CGT@mail1.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:33:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:32:10 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: top and bottom everywhere MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@mail1.new-york.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a lot of folder collections it would be great if I could quickly go to the top or bottom of these lists when Pine prompts me to choose one. Right now I get a prompt like this: GOTO folder in : ^G Help ^P Prev Collection TAB Complete ^C Cancel Ret Accept ^N Next Collection ^X ListMatches But it would be great to get a prompt like this: GOTO folder in : ^G Help ^P Prev Cltn ^Y Top Cltn TAB Complete ^C Cancel Ret Accept ^N Next Cltn ^V Bottom Cltn ^X ListMatches I also have a lot of roles and currently get a prompt like this when I compose a message: Compose using role "comp.mail.pine" ? ? Help Y [Yes] ^P Prev Role ^C Cancel N No ^N Next Role It would be nicer to get a prompt like this: Compose using role "comp.mail.pine" ? ? Help Y [Yes] ^P Prev Role ^Y Top Role ^C Cancel N No ^N Next Role ^V Bottom Role And actually it would be nice to have the option of choosing the top or bottom everywhere it makes sense. Thanks! -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA31279 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA25629; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:17:55 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA11722; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:17:25 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA37736 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:11:39 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA23496 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:11:37 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA29501; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:15:04 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Mon, 12 Apr 99 09:15 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02042; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:08:14 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: gwestlun@calpoly.edu X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 gwestlu@polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu wrote: > Pine will stop complaining with /var/spool/mail or /var/mail, depending on > your system, set as its supposed to if you make the pine executible SGID > with a group of "mail". With many systems, daemon doesn't run as root and > needs for all fo the files set to group write with a group of mail, the > SGID with a group of mail for pine works with this. This is NOT advisable. Pine is designed as a user level program that is not intended to be SGID or SUID to run. To do so introduces security problems. This is in the release notes. If you MUST do it, than do it, but it is much better to follow the sugestions that are provided by the Pine development team, and set the spool dir permisions to 1777. This is NOT a security risk (well, the posibility of users putting ``random files'' into the spool dir). Or, preferably, spooling the mail in the user's home directory (for security reason's at least). Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA31373 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA25788; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:23:15 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA25941; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:22:53 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA24104 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:11:32 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA23475 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:11:31 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA29497; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:15:03 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Mon, 12 Apr 99 09:15 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA02021; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:03:05 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 11:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: format of .addressbooky In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Mike Miller wrote: > Thanks for looking into this. It seems to me that .addressbook is using > two kinds of field separators: a simple tab, or a > tab-newline-SPACE-SPACE-SPACE combination. With this mixed format, > records may be on one line, or two lines or three lines depending on > several unimportant things like the number of characters in the e-mail > address. I would say that my estimation is that the newline-space-space-space is NOT part of the delimiter. My feeling is that the reasoning behind the insertion of it is to get Pine to get the address book to fit into 80 columns. So, if you wish to make it one line, I would think that you could strip the LF-SPACE-SPACE-SPACE from the file (at least for parsing), without any problem... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:15:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA02239 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:15:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA01989; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:15:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA27676; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:14:55 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA22530 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:10:14 -0700 Received: from barrierb241.nike.com (barrierb241.nike.com [198.107.239.105]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA06182 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:10:13 -0700 Received: from barrierb241.nike.com (root@localhost) by barrierb241.nike.com with ESMTP id QAA02070 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:10:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailscan2.nike.com (mailscan2.nike.com [146.197.241.11]) by barrierb241.nike.com with SMTP id QAA02054 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 146.197.1.183 by mailscan2.nike.com with SMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v3.2 SR1); Mon, 12 Apr 99 16:10:11 -0700 Received: from beavertn-svr-a0.nike.com (exchange.nike.com [146.197.251.36]) by cammail1.nike.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA10754 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exchange.nike.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2HHVPQW7>; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:10:10 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:10:00 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Poland, David" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine MIMI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Server-Uuid: 638eccb6-fc93-11d1-bbdd-00805f9f3fd5 X-WSS-ID: 1B0CA2D9278000-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I hope you can help or send me in the correct direction to get help. I have been trying to information on how to run PINE within a shell script. I have not been able to find the information on the WEB. I need to send an email with a file attachment(MIMI) from a shell script. What I want to do #!/bin/sh pine david.poland@nike.com subject /full/path/attached.file Is this possible? If so can you send the needed information on how to get this to work? All help is greatly appreciated. Thank you, David W. Poland 503-671-2585 david.poland@nike.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:43:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA05069 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA21896; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:43:13 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA00472; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:42:46 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA48558 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:38:47 -0700 Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA26418 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:38:47 -0700 Received: from rano.demon.co.uk ([158.152.194.10] helo=localhost) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 10WqHq-0000sP-0B; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:38:42 +0000 Received: from ege by localhost with local (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 10Wpb7-0002TT-00; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:54:33 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:54:33 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: edmundo@rano.demon.co.uk To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions In-Reply-To: (message from Prince Of Angels on Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:32:17 -0400 (EDT)) X-Sender: Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS X-To: masial@masial.ca X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > /var/mail was drwxrwxrwx > > /var/mail now drwxrwxr-x > > As far as I know a world writable mail directory isnt a problem, as long > as individual mail files arent. At worst you can get some stupid user ( > then again, why would you have that ) to put some garbage in the > directory.. Or delete other people's mail files. That's why you really want the +t. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:04:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA06113 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:04:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA23560; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:04:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA02608; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:03:58 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA46192 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:59:31 -0700 Received: from imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg (imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg [137.132.14.60]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA20574 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:59:30 -0700 Received: by imc01.ex.nus.edu.sg with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2YKHML8M>; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:00:10 +0800 Message-Id: <762388C091FAD01180FF00A024621378C650EC@exs01.ex.nus.edu.sg> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:00:07 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yeo Eng Hee To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Record Locks & Permissions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I had diferent kind of problem with locks on Pine 4.10. Due to an NFS problem, my mbox file was 'corrupted' and pine 4.10 complained that my mail was locked as read-only. I could not find the lock and there was no other pine running. Finally, I rnamed my mbox and created an empty mbox. That got the lock problem solved. I opened my original mbox with emacs and found that I could manually retrieve the contents. I still have not processed all the files in the old mbox to date, but I have not seen anything resembling a lock in the mbox contents. Regards, Eng Hee. -----Original Message----- From: edmundo@rano.demon.co.uk [mailto:edmundo@rano.demon.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 6:55 AM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions > > /var/mail was drwxrwxrwx > > /var/mail now drwxrwxr-x > > As far as I know a world writable mail directory isnt a problem, as long > as individual mail files arent. At worst you can get some stupid user ( > then again, why would you have that ) to put some garbage in the > directory.. Or delete other people's mail files. That's why you really want the +t. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA07049 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:58:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA05677; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:58:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA04652; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:58:04 -0700 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA17830 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:53:52 -0700 Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA24142 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:53:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA25976 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:53:50 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:53:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: start-up slowness In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Didn't he say he used POP? Typical WSU... :) -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 richarde@tricity.wsu.edu wrote: > > Try specifiying the imap port in your inbox path, ala > {mail.whereever.com:143}INBOX. > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Jan Kalin wrote: > > > On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Junichi Saito wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > > > > > >> It wasn't exact when I wrote in my initial mail that I experienced the > > > >> problem mentioned usually under X. In fact, whether I invoke pine from > > > >> console or under X, there is a long delay (some ten's seconds) before it > > > >> comes up if I am connected. > > > > > > > > Is this every time you enter Pine? Or is this only the first > > > >time. Sounds like an attempt to make a connection, but you have indicated > > > >that Pine should not be doing that. For me it may be around 10 seconds or > > > >so when I start up when it is slow. But, if I startup, and then quit and > > > >return, it is almost imidiate responce... > > > > > > This happens each time I invoke pine, but only if I am connected. > > > Otherwise, it starts immediately. > > > > > > I get mails using pop server, but IIRC pop support isn't implemented in > > > pine yet. > > > > > > What I can tell is that there is a clear difference in behaviour whether I > > > am connected or not. > > > > Maybe the problem is that Pine is trying to use rsh. Find the line > > "rsh-open-timeout" in ".pinerc" and set the value to 0 (thereby disabling > > the rsh mode). > > > > Cheers, Jan > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:03:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA03203 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:03:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA05762; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:03:55 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA05186; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:03:41 -0700 Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA46214 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:56:56 -0700 Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA37396 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:56:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA25818 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:56:55 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 18:56:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sounds like you ran into the power outage that brought down a good part of our network (and a few dorms) for a few hours. Sorry about that. :) -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Prince Of Angels wrote: > On Sun, 11 Apr 1999, Tony Rose wrote: > > > ( I would paste you the info but at this time washinton.edu seems to be > cut off by the verio.net pseudo-network ) > > > Best Regards > Masial > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA07470 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:23:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA24868; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:23:44 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA21956; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:22:48 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA34714 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:18:59 -0700 Received: from 1stpc.org (a147.ccgnv.net [207.141.129.147]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA12907 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:18:59 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org [207.141.129.65] by 1stpc.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.04) id AAB72209053C; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:23:51 EST Received: by luomat.peak.org (8.9.3/8.9.0) id WAA09742; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:18:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904130218.WAA09742@ocalhost> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:18:48 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine MIMI In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: "Poland, David" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Image-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/luomat@peak.org.tiff X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Replying to message of Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:10:00 -0700 from "Poland, David" regarding ``Pine MIMI'' > I need to send an email with a file attachment(MIMI) from a > shell script. MIMI? Who is Mimi? Do you mean MIME? > What I want to do > > #!/bin/sh > pine david.poland@nike.com subject /full/path/attached.file > > Is this possible? If so can you send the needed information > on how to get this to work? Can't be done with pine try mpack ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/ TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:27:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA06903 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:27:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA24914; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:27:04 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA22112; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:26:47 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA33884 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:19:58 -0700 Received: from numen.elon.edu (numen.elon.edu [152.33.3.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA28791 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:19:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (rose@localhost) by numen.elon.edu (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.8.6) with SMTP id WAA06623; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:17:16 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tony Rose To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: edmundo@rano.demon.co.uk X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yes. This is what I am worried about. What does the t do? > > > /var/mail was drwxrwxrwx > > > /var/mail now drwxrwxr-x > > > > As far as I know a world writable mail directory isnt a problem, as long > > as individual mail files arent. At worst you can get some stupid user ( > > then again, why would you have that ) to put some garbage in the > > directory.. > > Or delete other people's mail files. > > That's why you really want the +t. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:44:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA07779 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:44:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA06430; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:44:30 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA06950; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:44:07 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA33998 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:40:05 -0700 Received: from 1stpc.org (a147.ccgnv.net [207.141.129.147]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA15034 for ; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 19:40:05 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org [207.141.129.89] by 1stpc.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.04) id AFAB3C3404BC; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:44:59 EST Received: by luomat.peak.org (8.9.3/8.9.0) id WAA10642 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:40:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904130240.WAA10642@ocalhost> Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:39:58 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Image-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/luomat@peak.org.tiff X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Yes. This is what I am worried about. What does the t do? This is relatively basic Unix sysadmin stuff..... from: man 2 chmod: If mode S_ISVTX (the `sticky bit') is set on a directory, an unprivileged user may not delete or rename files of other users in that directory. For more details of the properties of the sticky bit, see sticky(8). from: man 8 sticky: A directory whose `sticky bit' is set becomes an append-only directory, or, more accurately, a directory in which the deletion of files is restricted. A file in a sticky directory may only be removed or renamed by a user if the user has write permission for the directory and the user is the owner of the file, the owner of the directory, or the super-user. This feature is usefully applied to directories such as /tmp which must be publicly writable but should deny users the license to arbitrarily delete or rename each others' files. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:22:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA10756 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:22:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA30091; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:22:27 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id BAA17353; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:22:16 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id BAA10568 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:18:17 -0700 Received: from grumpy.vocalis.com (grumpy.vocalis.com [195.152.18.90]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id BAA30042 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 01:18:15 -0700 Received: from rano.demon.co.uk (edmund@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.vocalis.com (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id JAA00110; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:17:10 +0100 Message-Id: <3712FD85.45EC71A1@rano.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:17:09 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: edmund@grumpy.vocalis.com X-To: Tony Rose X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Yes. This is what I am worried about. What does the t do? On a directory it means don't let people delete files that they don't own. It is typically used for public directories like /tmp: bash$ ls -ld /tmp drwxrwxrwt 80 root root 29696 Apr 13 09:05 /tmp (Unix file permissions are a bit counterintuitive at times: sometimes you can delete a file and replace it by a similar one, even when you can't write to the file, and sometimes you can write to a file, or truncate it to zero length, even though you can't delete it.) Edmund From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:21:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA17663 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:21:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA17069; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:21:40 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA08329; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:21:20 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA35380 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:16:32 -0700 Received: from barrierb241.nike.com (barrierb241.nike.com [198.107.239.105]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA17285 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:16:32 -0700 Received: from barrierb241.nike.com (root@localhost) by barrierb241.nike.com with ESMTP id HAA26288 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:16:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailscan2.nike.com (mailscan2.nike.com [146.197.241.11]) by barrierb241.nike.com with SMTP id HAA26283 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:16:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 146.197.1.183 by mailscan2.nike.com with SMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v3.2 SR1); Tue, 13 Apr 99 07:16:31 -0700 Received: from beavertn-svr-a0.nike.com (exchange.nike.com [146.197.251.36]) by cammail1.nike.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id HAA20701 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by exchange.nike.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <2HHVQGLF>; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:16:29 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:16:22 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Poland, David" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Attachements (MIME) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Server-Uuid: 638eccb6-fc93-11d1-bbdd-00805f9f3fd5 X-WSS-ID: 1B0D8E35342974-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I hope you can help or send me in the correct direction to get help. I have been trying to information on how to run PINE within a shell script. I have not been able to find the information on the WEB. I need to send an email with a file attachment(MIME) from a shell script. What I want to do #!/bin/sh pine david.poland@nike.com subject /full/path/attached.file Is this possible? If so can you send the needed information on how to get this to work? All help is greatly appreciated. Thank you, David W. Poland 503-671-2585 david.poland@nike.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:41:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA14073 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:41:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA17404; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:41:15 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA24610; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:40:16 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA29190 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:36:13 -0700 Received: from calypso.view.net.au (calypso.view.net.au [203.30.237.210]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA00257 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:36:11 -0700 Received: from localhost (mtw@localhost) by calypso.view.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA31602; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:05:33 +0930 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 00:05:33 +0930 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Talbot-Wilson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Attachements (MIME) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Poland, David" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Poland, David wrote: > What I want to do > > #!/bin/sh > pine david.poland@nike.com subject /full/path/attached.file Not a job for Pine. Try cat /full/path/file | sendmail david@nike or look at /bin/mail. There is an equivalent low-level mailer in Metamail (forget the name) if you want to add an attached file. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA12905 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:46:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA17524; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:46:09 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA25778; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:45:17 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA29204 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:36:15 -0700 Received: from ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA00267 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:36:13 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:36:04 +0800 Message-Id: <000501be85ba$f4218000$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:36:01 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Attachements (MIME) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Poland, David" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN David, > #!/bin/sh > pine david.poland@nike.com subject /full/path/attached.file > > Is this possible? If so can you send the needed information > on how to get this to work? > > All help is greatly appreciated. It seems the following reply from Timothy J Luoma did not reach you: Replying to message of Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:10:00 -0700 from "Poland, David" regarding ``Pine MIMI'' Can't be done with pine try mpack ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/ TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:47:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA12539 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:47:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA06306; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:47:04 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA01035; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:45:18 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA24996 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:24:45 -0700 Received: from bigred.unl.edu (asolano1@bigred.unl.edu [129.93.1.7]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA02961 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:24:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (asolano1@localhost) by bigred.unl.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA23978 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:28:31 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:28:30 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Ana Solano Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ana Solano To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Could you please.. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN take me out of your list? Thank you -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA20691 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA21266; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:58:04 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA16773; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:57:24 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA31320 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:50:41 -0700 Received: from 1stpc.org (a147.ccgnv.net [207.141.129.147]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA01473 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 09:50:40 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org [207.141.129.118] by 1stpc.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.04) id A7112790298; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:55:45 EST Received: by luomat.peak.org (8.9.3/8.9.0) id MAA09297; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904131650.MAA09297@ocalhost> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:50:27 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Attachements (MIME) In-Reply-To: <000501be85ba$f4218000$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> References: <000501be85ba$f4218000$1511b381@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: "Poland, David" X-Image-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/luomat@peak.org.tiff X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Replying to message of Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:36:01 +0800 from "Ed Greshko" regarding ``RE: Attachements (MIME)'' > It seems the following reply from Timothy J Luoma did not reach you: Perhaps because I did not CC David directly. I did expect that someone asking for help from the list would subscribe to it to hear the responses. That may be an outdated notion these days. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:14:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA20040 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA24086 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:14:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA22493; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:10:05 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA34628 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:05:20 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA12697 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:05:19 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA17574; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:04:13 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 13:04:13 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: format of .addressbook In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jessica Rasku X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > I would say that my estimation is that the > newline-space-space-space is NOT part of the delimiter. My feeling is > that the reasoning behind the insertion of it is to get Pine to get the > address book to fit into 80 columns. So, if you wish to make it one line, > I would think that you could strip the LF-SPACE-SPACE-SPACE from the file > (at least for parsing), without any problem... Well, in effect, it is part of the delimiter because it lies between fields and is not part of the fields on either side. It doesn't cause the addressbook to fit into 80 columns because the comment line can be very long. But you must be right that it has to do with keeping lines short. It just seems haphazard. Thank you for your ideas. I hope one of the pine team will tell us why it is designed this way. Regards, Mike -- Michael B. Miller University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:45:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA22414 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:45:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA25155 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:45:34 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA10168; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:37:50 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA36644 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:32:12 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA25398 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:32:12 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id QAA23502 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:36:08 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Tue, 13 Apr 99 09:36 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA04774 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:25:04 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Attachements (MIME) In-Reply-To: <199904131650.MAA09297@ocalhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Replying to message of Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:36:01 +0800 > from "Ed Greshko" > regarding ``RE: Attachements (MIME)'' > > > It seems the following reply from Timothy J Luoma did not reach you: > > Perhaps because I did not CC David directly. > > I did expect that someone asking for help from the list would subscribe to > it to hear the responses. That may be an outdated notion these days. It may be an outdated notion, but most lists do not allow you to post unless you are subscribed. Maybe the reason that the list is setup with reply to not set is because of allowing people to post without subscribing? Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA24284 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:33:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA10993 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:33:05 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA00254; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:27:23 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA47522 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:23:02 -0700 Received: from eagle.cc.ukans.edu (root@eagle.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.34.3]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA02560 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:23:02 -0700 Received: from falcon.cc.ukans.edu by eagle.cc.ukans.edu (8.8.7/1.1.8.2/12Jan95-0207PM) id OAA0000014555; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:22:59 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:22:56 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Carine Ullom Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Carine Ullom To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: learning 4.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: catlin@ukans.edu, w-hubert@ukans.edu X-Sender: cullom@falcon.cc.ukans.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, We are preparing to upgrade from v. 3.96 to v. 4.10 on a UNIX system. I am trying to prepare some documentation on the new features available. I have read the release notes, the online help, the man pages, and have been to the various Pine-info web sites and still have some questions. I'd be grateful to anyone who can clarify a few things for me: 1) As of 4.0 the release notes list "Basic rendering of message bodies in HTML format" as an improvement. I've tested various methods for combining email and HTML and can't seem to get anything to work. That is, I'm expecting to see messages rendered in HTML, to the extent that is possible in a text-based environment. 2) Remote address books: The help files state that a remote address book on an IMAP server is of a different format than the usual local .addressbook file. Is there any way to convert one's existing .addressbook file to the appropriate format so that it can indeed be used from a different host? If not, I'm not sure of the utility of this feature to seasoned Pine users with large address books, particularly if they can't be used in conjunction with other clients, such as Outlook (which is what I read in the release notes). 3) Global address books. This is related to item #2. Not sure when this became available but again, I'm not sure of the utility of a global address book. If I define one, should it be on an IMAP server? Seems logical, yet how does it then differ from any remote address book that is available from multiple hosts. And if not available from multiple hosts, what is global about it? 4)Hierarchical folders vs. folder collections. I'm confused about the difference between sub-folders created as a result of the ^X Create Directory command at the "Folder name to add: " prompt in the FOLDER LIST and those created from Setup/collectionList/Addcltn/Path:. I realize that the latter shows up in my COLLECTION LIST and that both show up in my FOLDER LIST. And for the life of me I can't save messages into either one of them! If someone has documented these items on a web page somewhere, please show me the way. The release notes are just to cryptic and I haven't found an FAQ current enough to address these items. TIA, Carine Ullom Software Training Specialist Academic Computing Services University of Kansas Computer Center Lawrence, KS 66045 PH: 785-864-0467 FX: 785-864-0485 e-mail: carine@ukans.edu -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:42:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA29172 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA01001 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:42:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA25603; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:21:32 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA32872 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:16:02 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA07729 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:16:01 -0700 Received: from red4.cac.washington.edu (3950@red4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.55.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA16811 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:16:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (sleib@localhost) by red4.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA23567 for ; Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:16:00 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 16:15:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: learning 4.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-Sender: sleib@red4.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Here's the UW's FAQ on item 2. Please note that Dante (or Homer) is the local machine running Pine, and deskmail is an alias to the IMAP server. Title: How can Pine access a remote address book? Question: I have been using Pine and have built up an address book which is important to my correspondence. Now I'd like to try PC-Pine, or may need to run Pine on another computer. Is there a way to access a single address book when using Pine/PC-Pine on different computers? Answer: Pine, beginning with version 4, can be configured to access a remote address book over the network. So, after some initial setup and conversion of your address book contents, you can keep a single address book which can be accessed by Pine on one or more Unix computers and by PC-Pine running on one or more desktop computers. Below are the steps to take if you want to convert an existing Pine address book that is on a Unix computer like Homer or Dante to make it available remotely. The steps also tell how to configure Pine to access the remote address book. You'll want to configure Pine on every system you use the same way. For most people, that will be only PC-Pine on one computer and Pine on the Unix computer. The instructions also suggest that you change Pine's configuration to ignore your old address book. That is so that you will always be dealing with a single instance of the data and won't accidently make updates to the wrong file. Instructions ------------ First change the Pine configuration on the account where your address book already exits: 1. Log in and run Pine 2. In Pine choose "S"etup "A"ddressBooks at the main menu 3. Choose "A"dd Pers Abook 4. Fill in the form like this Server Name : UW_NetID.deskmail.washington.edu Folder Name : ADDRBOOK NickName : Master Addressbook (where you replace "UW_NetID" with your own UW_NetID that you use to log in to the system. You could also pick a different NickName if you wish.) 5. Choose "^X" eXit/Save 6. Exit the Setup screen That completes the configuration of Pine on your Unix account to recognize two address books. Now you need to copy the contents of your existing address book to the new, remote address on the "deskmail" server. Pine will automatically make any needed changes to the format of the data. 7. Still running Pine, select "A"ddress Book at the main menu 8. Choose ">" View your ".addressbook" Personal AddressBook 9. Use ";" Select, then "A"ll to mark all the address book entries 10. Use "A"pply, then "S"ave 11. Choose "S"ave at the next prompt, you should see this Save to which addrbook : .addressbook ^G Help ^P Prev AddrBook ^C Cancel Ret Accept ^N Next AddrBook 12. Use ^N which will show that you are saving to "Master Addressbook" (or whatever you named your new address book.) 13. Choose "Ret" Accept to copy all your address book entries to the new address book. That completes the copying of your original address book to the new one that can be accessed remotely. Now, it would be wise to configure Pine to forget about the old address book so you'll always be working with the new one: 14. Still running Pine on your Unix account, choose "S"etup "A"ddress book again at the main menu 15. Highlight the ".addressbook Personal AddressBook" 16. Choose "D"el Abook 17. Choose "C"onfig 18. Choose "E"xit Setup That completes address book conversion and the set up of Pine on the system where your original address book existed. The final step is to configure Pine on any other system which you want to access this address book. For most people, that means just configuring PC-Pine to access the remote address book. If you installed PC-Pine from the UW Internet Connectivity Kit, part or all of that may be done, but you should check the PC-Pine configuration: 19. Start PC-Pine and repeat steps 2, 3, and 4 above. Note that there is not yet an Internet standard for address book formats or remote access. The methods described here will work for Pine only; not other email client software. Date: 12/98 Author: Ingram/Skiver/Wall Hope that helps, -- Scott Leibrand Student Staff Computing & Communications sleib@cac.washington.edu On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Carine Ullom wrote: > Hello, > We are preparing to upgrade from v. 3.96 to v. 4.10 on a UNIX system. I > am trying to prepare some documentation on the new features available. I > have read the release notes, the online help, the man pages, and have been > to the various Pine-info web sites and still have some questions. I'd be > grateful to anyone who can clarify a few things for me: > > 1) As of 4.0 the release notes list "Basic rendering of message bodies in > HTML format" as an improvement. I've tested various methods for combining > email and HTML and can't seem to get anything to work. That is, I'm > expecting to see messages rendered in HTML, to the extent that is possible > in a text-based environment. > > 2) Remote address books: The help files state that a remote address book > on an IMAP server is of a different format than the usual local > .addressbook file. Is there any way to convert one's existing > .addressbook file to the appropriate format so that it can indeed be used > from a different host? If not, I'm not sure of the utility of this feature > to seasoned Pine users with large address books, particularly if they > can't be used in conjunction with other clients, such as Outlook (which is > what I read in the release notes). > > 3) Global address books. This is related to item #2. Not sure when this > became available but again, I'm not sure of the utility of a global > address book. If I define one, should it be on an IMAP server? Seems > logical, yet how does it then differ from any remote address book that is > available from multiple hosts. And if not available from multiple hosts, > what is global about it? > > 4)Hierarchical folders vs. folder collections. I'm confused about the > difference between sub-folders created as a result of the ^X Create > Directory command at the "Folder name to add: " prompt in the FOLDER LIST > and those created from Setup/collectionList/Addcltn/Path:. I realize that > the latter shows up in my COLLECTION LIST and that both show up in my > FOLDER LIST. And for the life of me I can't save messages into either one > of them! > > If someone has documented these items on a web page somewhere, please show > me the way. The release notes are just to cryptic and I haven't found an > FAQ current enough to address these items. > > TIA, > > Carine Ullom > Software Training Specialist > Academic Computing Services > University of Kansas > Computer Center > Lawrence, KS 66045 > PH: 785-864-0467 > FX: 785-864-0485 > e-mail: carine@ukans.edu > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:37:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA10731 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA32009 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:37:16 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA22492; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:33:19 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA29242 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:27:55 -0700 Received: from sass165.sandia.gov (mailgate.sandia.gov [132.175.109.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA14373 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:27:54 -0700 Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov (sasg829.sandia.gov [134.253.226.190]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA21195; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:27:50 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:24:37 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Daniel Sands To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Attachements (MIME) In-Reply-To: <199904131650.MAA09297@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Funny, last I read, you had to subscribe to the list in order to post to it. BTW, people wanting to be removed: Go to the page listed in the signature below for info on unsubscribing. We cannot unsubscribe you. And next time read the instructions before subscribing. On Tue, 13 Apr 1999, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Replying to message of Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:36:01 +0800 > from "Ed Greshko" > regarding ``RE: Attachements (MIME)'' > > > It seems the following reply from Timothy J Luoma did not reach you: > > Perhaps because I did not CC David directly. > > I did expect that someone asking for help from the list would subscribe to > it to hear the responses. That may be an outdated notion these days. > > TjL > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA00455 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:43:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA16265 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:43:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA22980; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:41:21 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA38340 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:36:54 -0700 Received: from sass165.sandia.gov (mailgate.sandia.gov [132.175.109.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA15417 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 07:36:54 -0700 Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov (sasg829.sandia.gov [134.253.226.190]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA23548; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:36:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:32:56 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Daniel Sands To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Record Locks & Permissions In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: edmundo@rano.demon.co.uk X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Okay, this is off-topic, but I am curious. Is there any rationale for this? Is it a bug, or a feature that anybody can delete a file in a world-writable directory even if one cannot read or write that file? On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 edmundo@rano.demon.co.uk wrote: > > > /var/mail was drwxrwxrwx > > > /var/mail now drwxrwxr-x > > > > As far as I know a world writable mail directory isnt a problem, as long > > as individual mail files arent. At worst you can get some stupid user ( > > then again, why would you have that ) to put some garbage in the > > directory.. > > Or delete other people's mail files. > > That's why you really want the +t. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:04:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA07902 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:04:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA03761; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 10:04:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA17678; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:59:21 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA67866 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:53:47 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA22596 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 09:53:46 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1424"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JA0VJOB2VY8WW288@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:53:40 EDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:52:52 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: multipart/alternative request MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@shell13.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm trying to learn about MIME headers so I've got my viewer-hdrs set to include the following: Content-type, Content-description, Content-transfer-encoding, Parts/Attachments, X-MimeOLE, X-Mailer, I just received a message that looked like this when full headers was OFF (I've deleted irrelevant headers): X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BE860C.916E3140" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Parts/Attachments: 1 OK ~9 lines Text 2 Shown ~25 lines Text ---------------------------------------- [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 9 lines. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] [...plain text msg deleted...] And when I type V, Pine displays this: PINE 4.10 ATTACHMENT INDEX 1 ~9 lines Text/PLAIN 2 ~25 lines Text/HTML And when I view attachment 2, my web browser is fired up and displays EXACTLY the same thing that I just saw in Pine -- no formatting, no color, no cool fonts, absolutely no reason to use a web browser. My requests are: REQUEST 1 ========= If the attachment is just an alternate view, say so. I.e., instead of: [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 9 lines. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] Say something like: [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 9 lines. ] [ Alternate Part 1, Text/HTML. Type V to view or save this part. ] This way I would know that there's no need to look at this. Yes, I could look at the "Content-type: multipart/alternative;" header but it's a pain to ferret that out from amongst the other headers. REQUEST 2 ========= The Parts/Attachments header says that Part 2 is "Shown" and Part 1 is "OK" (whatever that means): Parts/Attachments: 1 OK ~9 lines Text 2 Shown ~25 lines Text ---------------------------------------- And the blurb at the top of the message seems to be saying that Part 1 is shown and Part 2 is not shown: [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 9 lines. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] These should be more clear about what's shown and what's not, and they should be consistent! Things get even more confusing when I type H to view full headers. When I do that the body of the message looks like this: [ Part 1, Text/PLAIN 9 lines. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] [...deleted...] So now it seems that Part 1 is actually HTML, but it's labeled Text/PLAIN, and Pine knows how to render HTML that is labeled as Text/PLAIN so that's what it's doing. I guess.... Anyway this is all very confusing. We can scream at Microsoft for producing such bloated messages but it would be nice if Pine would handle them gracefully. -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:05:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA17599 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:05:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA26033; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 13:05:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA28711; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:59:10 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA21180 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:54:15 -0700 Received: from 1stpc.org (a147.ccgnv.net [207.141.129.147]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA32596 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 12:54:11 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org [12.8.138.11] by 1stpc.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.04) id A348A0403A8; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:58:00 EST Received: by luomat.peak.org (8.9.3/8.9.0) id PAA24262; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:52:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904141952.PAA24262@ocalhost> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 15:52:31 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Attachements (MIME) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: Daniel Sands X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Image-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/luomat@peak.org.tiff X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Replying to message of Wed, 14 Apr 1999 08:24:37 -0600 from Daniel Sands regarding ``Re: Attachements (MIME)'' > Funny, last I read, you had to subscribe to the list in order to post to > it. Couldn't remember which way PINE was setup.... > BTW, people wanting to be removed: Go to the page listed in the signature > below for info on unsubscribing. We cannot unsubscribe you. And next time > read the instructions before subscribing. Do you really think they'll listen? TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:48:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA19300 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:48:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA28916 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:48:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA18096; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:26:03 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA46404 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:22:08 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA15832 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:22:08 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1741"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JA14XCRGZY8WW2FF@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:21:58 EDT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 17:21:00 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: defining and changing incoming folders MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@mail1.new-york.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To me it's not very intuitive how to define and change an incoming-folder definition from within Pine. When you finally stumble on the screen where you do this, the possible commands are: First Key Menu ============== ? Help < ClctnList P PrevFldr - PrevPage A Add R Rename O OTHER CMDS > [View Fldr] N NextFldr Spc NextPage D Delete W WhereIs Other Key Menu ============== ? Help Q Quit Pine I CurIndex % Print ; Select O OTHER CMDS M Main Menu G GotoFldr C Compose Z ZoomMode : SelectCur So you can Add, Delete, and Rename an incoming folders on this screen but how do you *change* one? Do you have to Add a new one and then Delete the old one? BTW, I have lots of suggestions for improving the incoming folder UI and functionality. When there's a chance they'll be implemented, let me know and I'll write up my ideas. Thanks, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA25634 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:46:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA05302 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:46:47 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA08509; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:44:29 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA40994 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:40:29 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA23366 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:40:29 -0700 Received: from 1stpc.org (a147.ccgnv.net [207.141.129.147]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA05210; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:40:24 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org [207.141.129.166] by 1stpc.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.04) id AD06E8FA0270; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:45:42 EST Received: by luomat.peak.org (8.9.3/8.9.0) id BAA02483; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:40:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904150540.BAA02483@ocalhost> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:40:17 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: address book : view/update Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: pine@cac.washington.edu X-Image-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/luomat@peak.org.tiff X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN can I just say that I _HATE_ the 2 step process to edit an entry in the address book? why not make it ONE step, and allow exiting w/out confirmation if there are no changes made? this right-arrow-then-u stuff is nuts -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:55:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA25055 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA05398 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:55:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA26895; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:52:46 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA34134 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:49:08 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA24108 for ; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:49:08 -0700 Received: from 1stpc.org (a147.ccgnv.net [207.141.129.147]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA05334; Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:49:04 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org [207.141.129.166] by 1stpc.org with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.04) id AF0E60A30270; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:54:22 EST Received: by luomat.peak.org (8.9.3/8.9.0) id BAA02709; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:49:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199904150549.BAA02709@ocalhost> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 01:48:57 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Addressbooks UI change recommendation Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 X-To: pine@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Image-URL: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/luomat@peak.org.tiff X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There are 3 columns for an Address Book Nickname Name Address joe "Schmo, Joe" "Joe Schmo" bill "Wild, Bill" bill@wild.com NOW when you "Compose To" it will come up as "To:" "Schmo, Joe" I suggest that this is not preferable (or should be optional) The "Address" field, if added using 'Take' shows the person's name as they want it to show up (how they have configured their mail). Now the addressbook is sorted by "NAME" so I put those names as LAST, FIRST But when I compose a message, I want it as the 'Address' shows (that is, after all the ADDRESS I told PINE to use!) Now in the case of 'bill', well he doesn't have a name in his Address field, so adding 'Wild, Bill ' doesn't bother me in that situation. I would like an option to change the other behavior though... I want to be able to have my mailbox sorted by LAST, FIRST by my messages to go out in the more friendly FIRST LAST (or whatever I have in the ADDRESS column... IFF there is only an address in the ADDRESS column and no additional info, then add the name TjL -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA29100 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA09648 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:57:07 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id DAA00130; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:49:23 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA71028 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:44:35 -0700 Received: from sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir ([194.225.42.50]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id DAA23267 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 03:44:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (majid@localhost) by sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id PAA00529 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:15:50 +0430 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 15:15:49 +0430 (IDT) Reply-To: majid@bol.sharif.ac.ir Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Majid Tajamolian To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Help: Pine BUG?! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sobhan.bol.sharif.ac.ir: majid owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear LIST: I have a problem with PINE 4.10 (and also 4.05) while treat PGP messages. I receive the following messages sometimes during reading, saving, forwarding PGPed messages and exit from pine: Problem detected: "Received abort signal". Pine Exiting. IOT trap/Abort (core dumped) I use PINE on LINUX 2.0.x. What is the problem source? Is it a bug in PINE or PGP? My appreciations are for any help. -- THX in advance, M. Tajamolian -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:33:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA21348 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:33:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA16462 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:33:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA11548; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:29:32 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA65538 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:24:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA06193 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:24:31 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA30634; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:24:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA12183; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:24:26 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Addressbooks UI change recommendation In-Reply-To: <199904150549.BAA02709@ocalhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: pine@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It's because you have quotes around the names. If the name was just joe Schmo, Joe Joe Schmo then the sort would be on the letter S and the outgoing mail would look like Joe Schmo. If you add quotes that tells pine that you really want the comma to be a literal comma, like "Joe Schmo, PhD." -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > There are 3 columns for an Address Book > > Nickname Name Address > joe "Schmo, Joe" "Joe Schmo" > > bill "Wild, Bill" bill@wild.com > > > NOW when you "Compose To" it will come up as "To:" > > "Schmo, Joe" > > I suggest that this is not preferable (or should be optional) > > The "Address" field, if added using 'Take' shows the person's name as they > want it to show up (how they have configured their mail). > > > Now the addressbook is sorted by "NAME" so I put those names as LAST, FIRST > > But when I compose a message, I want it as the 'Address' shows (that is, > after all the ADDRESS I told PINE to use!) > > Now in the case of 'bill', well he doesn't have a name in his Address field, > so adding 'Wild, Bill ' doesn't bother me in that situation. > > I would like an option to change the other behavior though... I want to be > able to have my mailbox sorted by LAST, FIRST by my messages to go out in the > more friendly FIRST LAST (or whatever I have in the ADDRESS column... IFF > there is only an address in the ADDRESS column and no additional info, then > add the name > > TjL > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA31412 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA31411 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:54:16 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA15228; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:49:38 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA45302 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:45:34 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA09430 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:45:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA12670 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:45:33 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 09:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Color pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The next version of pine will include some color capability so you might want to wait for that and work on modifying it instead of the current pine. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Fri, 9 Apr 1999 dizzy73@connix.com wrote: > HI all > Im new to this list. One of my primairy interests is to get pine > to run in color. > [...] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:18:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA03812 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:18:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA32132 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:18:02 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id KAA16924; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:14:41 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA33810 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:11:11 -0700 Received: from usc.edu (usc.edu [128.125.253.136]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id KAA13158 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:11:10 -0700 Received: from Law.USC.EDU (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by usc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8/usc) with SMTP id KAA05312; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:11:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from faculty.Law.USC.EDU by Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29337; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:11:08 PDT Received: from l2122.usc.edu by faculty.Law.USC.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18229; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:11:07 PDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 10:10:42 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Color pine In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Steve, Do you know when the next version will arrive and what features it will have? I didn't see much mentioned on the Pine web pages. The reason I ask is that I'm wondering if PC-Pine will move to a more GUI-ized, Eudora-like version (say, in the next two years). I personally love PC-Pine, but some of our more influential users who "grew" up on Eudora are causing me some grief over the less GUI features. (i.e. navigating through the different folders/addressbooks) I'd love to give them more reasons to stick with Pine. I personally think the reasons are minor, but hey, they are the users. Pine is a fantastic product (best of all, free ;-) ) If you'd like the full feature list that they wish for (about 15 items), let me know and I'll email it to you. Robert On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, Steve Hubert wrote: > The next version of pine will include some color capability so you might > want to wait for that and work on modifying it instead of the current > pine. > > -- > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999 dizzy73@connix.com wrote: > > > HI all > > Im new to this list. One of my primairy interests is to get pine > > to run in color. > > [...] > ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` ` Robert Larmon ` ` PC Systems Analyst ` ` USC Law School Computing Services ` ` rlarmon@law.usc.edu ` ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA02661 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:18:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA20127 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:18:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA03714; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:15:06 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA14458 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:11:37 -0700 Received: from comet.connix.com (comet.connix.com [198.69.10.4]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA06569 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:11:28 -0700 Received: from connix.com (17.ct4.dyn.connix.net [209.66.144.80]) by comet.connix.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA12776; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:11:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <37162B6C.FF1A598E@connix.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:09:49 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: dizzy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Color pine References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Steve Could you tell us what version number that would be and aproximentaly when to expect it? thanks rob Linux Home page http://www.connix.com/~dizzy73/LBM.htm Steve Hubert wrote: > The next version of pine will include some color capability so you might > want to wait for that and work on modifying it instead of the current > pine. > > -- > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > > On Fri, 9 Apr 1999 dizzy73@connix.com wrote: > > > HI all > > Im new to this list. One of my primairy interests is to get pine > > to run in color. > > [...] -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA01616 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA03236 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:23:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA06466; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:19:55 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA123844 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:15:46 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA02208 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:15:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA15822 for ; Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:15:44 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:15:43 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Color pine In-Reply-To: <37162B6C.FF1A598E@connix.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It'll be the next version. That is, the first version with a number greater than 4.10. We didn't decide what number to give it yet. Also, as usual, we don't know when, but I would guess about 2 or 3 or 4 months. Steve On Thu, 15 Apr 1999, dizzy wrote: > Hi Steve > Could you tell us what version number that would be and aproximentaly when > to expect it? > thanks > rob From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:05:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA24874 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA06850; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:05:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA29341; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:04:52 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA38118 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:00:06 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id VAA09541 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:00:06 -0700 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.45.83]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id VAA06784 for ; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:00:06 -0700 Received: from localhost by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA15959; Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:59:11 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 22:59:11 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: key bindings MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: PINE-INFO list X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am mostly using emacs as my editor in Pine, but I sometimes use pico for last-minute touch-ups and, of course, in writing the message header I must use pico-type editing commands. I like the way pine allows me to have ^K function as in emacs (by setting compose-cut-from-cursor). Pine/Pico is mostly using emacs bindings (^A, ^B, ^D, ^E, ^F, ^N, ^P, ^V, ^K [when set]) but several are annoyingly different from emacs (^Y, ^U, ^^, ^@, ^W). I suggest that both pine and pico allow users to select a key-binding system where ^U is turned off, ^Y does what ^U used to do, ESC-v (or M-v or Alt-v) does what ^Y used to do, ^^ and ^@ are switched (so ^^ moves forward one word and ^@ sets the mark), ^S does what ^W used to do, and ^W does the same thing as ^K (e.g., for 'wiping' blocked text). It seems like this would be relatively easy to implement and it wouldn't be 'bloating' the software. I'm surprised that an option like this isn't already available. I looked around (FAQ, etc.) and it doesn't look like it is. Is it a good idea? Regards, and thanks for a great product! Mike -- Michael B. Miller, Ph.D. University of Missouri--Columbia http://taxa.psyc.missouri.edu/~mbmiller/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:53:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA16036 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA24648; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:52:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA25149; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:52:33 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA127218 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:48:20 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA23640 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:48:19 -0700 Received: from red7.cac.washington.edu (3950@red7.cac.washington.edu [140.142.55.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA13979 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:48:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (sleib@localhost) by red7.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA25749 for ; Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:48:18 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:48:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: leibrand@u.washington.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: comp.mail.pine <--> pine-info@cac.washington.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-Sender: sleib@red7.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Would it be possible/feasible to set up some sort of a gateway between the newsgroup comp.mail.pine and the mailing list pine-info@cac.washington.edu so that everything sent to one would also get sent to the other? -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:31:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA23604 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:31:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA20077; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:31:13 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id EAA29885; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:31:04 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA34162 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:26:28 -0700 Received: from home.gis.net (home.gis.net [208.218.130.20]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA08491 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:26:27 -0700 Received: from avihome (ppp47-28.gis.net [216.41.47.28]) by home.gis.net (8.8.8/8.8.8+djf) with SMTP id HAA05873 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 07:26:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990418072913.011c4b74@gis.net> Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 07:29:13 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: anash@gis.net To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: questions about c-client. If wrong place then, what is the right place for this. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: anash@gis.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I am not sure if this is the right place for my questions. I am trying to use the c-client code to receive and parse email messages. I can get messages but I am having problems with parsing them. My main problem is with attachments. I would like to get one "section" at a time from a message. I was trying to use mail_fetch_text() but I could get it to bring only all the text since I did not know how to specify the "section" correctly. I have the following questions: 1. How do I know how many sections a message has? 2. How do I know the section’s names/value? 3. What is the relation between sections and "body parts"? 4. Am I using the right function? I have read the internal.txt which comes in the imapd directory but I still had trouble. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks Avi -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA08254 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA30872; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:54:38 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id EAA14961; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:54:30 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA31738 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:50:48 -0700 Received: from calypso.view.net.au (mtw@calypso.view.net.au [203.30.237.210]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id EAA26017 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 04:50:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (mtw@localhost) by calypso.view.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA12486; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:19:53 +0930 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 21:19:53 +0930 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Talbot-Wilson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: questions about c-client. If wrong place then, what is the right place for this. In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19990418072913.011c4b74@gis.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: anash@gis.net X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 18 Apr 1999 anash@gis.net wrote: > I am trying to use the c-client code to receive and parse email messages= =2E=20 > I can get messages but I am having problems with parsing them. My main > problem is with attachments. > I would like to get one "section" at a time from a message. I was trying = to > use mail_fetch_text() but I could get it to bring only all the text since= I > did not know how to specify the "section" correctly. > =20 > I have the following questions: > 1. How do I know how many sections a message has? > 2. How do I know the section=92s names/value? > 3. What is the relation between sections and "body parts"? > 4. Am I using the right function? >=20 > I have read the internal.txt which comes in the imapd directory but I sti= ll > had trouble. I'm not totally clear on what you are trying to do, but (a) The parsing of MIME attachments is specified in several RFCs - check the RFC index. (b) Consider writing a local mailer, e.g. in Perl or Tcl. Your incoming mail is seen first by the SMTP server, then by a local mailer (delivery agent), then by Pine or another MUA. Even it it's not to be the end product, a custom local mailer can make it easy to test your parsing. (c) Consider Procmail and Deliver. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:57:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA04598 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:57:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA00957; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:57:46 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id IAA18206; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:57:39 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA13094 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:53:40 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id IAA17816 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 08:53:39 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1241"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JA6EMMYNES8WWA88@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:53:36 EDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:52:56 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: comp.mail.pine <--> pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: NULL@news2.new-york.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 17 Apr 1999, leibrand@u.washington.edu wrote: > Would it be possible/feasible to set up some sort of a gateway > between the newsgroup comp.mail.pine and the mailing list > pine-info@cac.washington.edu so that everything sent to one would > also get sent to the other? These groups used to be linked but a while ago they were unlinked and and the purpose of pine-info was changed to focus on technical issues, which unfortunately a lot of people don't understand. What I'd like to see is: 1] pine-info is renamed to something that makes it clear that it's for discussion of technical issues, maybe pine-admin. 2] We create a newsgroup for discussion of the technical aspects of pine called comp.mail.pine.admin or comp.mail.pine.tech or whatever. Is anyone interested in posting a RFD (request for discussion) about this? Info about creating a new newsgroup is at: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/ 3] The pine-admin and comp.mail.pine.admin (or whatever they are called) are linked and archives are kept on an IMAP server. This is already true of the pine-info archives, which can be accessed by putting this setting in your pinerc folder-collections list: "pine-info archives" {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}#public/pine/pine-info/[], 4] All messages sent to comp.mail.pine are archived on an IMAP server so we can use Pine to read and search the archives. Since the great Mark Crispin is always talking about how cheap disk space is, this seems like a reasonable thing for the UW to do... Just some ideas, Nancy -- For Pine info and links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Posted via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:53:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA32397 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:53:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA14679; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:53:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id CAA11265; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:53:32 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA48530 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:49:01 -0700 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA23273 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 02:49:00 -0700 Received: from pippin.york.ac.uk (pippin.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.9]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA05812 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:48:58 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: <218567.3133507738@pippin.york.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:48:58 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: comp.mail.pine <--> pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Greetings - I would suggest a slight variation on Nancy's thoughts... --On Sun, Apr 18, 1999 11:52 am -0400 Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough wrote: > These groups used to be linked but a while ago they were unlinked and > and the purpose of pine-info was changed to focus on technical issues, > which unfortunately a lot of people don't understand. What I'd like to > see is: > > 1] pine-info is renamed to something that makes it clear that it's for > discussion of technical issues, maybe pine-admin. Since Pine-Info is embedded firmly in older versions of Pine (still in use at various sites) and, presumably, is documentation around the place I think it would be better to have: 1a] Create a new list called Pine-Admin (or whatever), which is then used as outlined below. 1b] Retain the existing Pine-Info list but give up on trying to discuss admin-related matters in a list with an "-Info" name! Instead we administrators move en masse to (the new) Pine-Admin, and keep Pine-Info for end-user questions (answered with politeness and helpfulness instead of flames! :-) I suspect it will be easier for "us" to move rather than continue battling trying to refocus Pine-Info. We could then re-link this Pine-Info with comp.mail.pine and have it archived as Nancy suggests in [4] below. > 2] We create a newsgroup for discussion of the technical aspects of > pine called comp.mail.pine.admin or comp.mail.pine.tech or whatever. > Is anyone interested in posting a RFD (request for discussion) about > this? Info about creating a new newsgroup is at: > http://www.faqs.org/faqs/usenet/creating-newsgroups/part1/ > > 3] The pine-admin and comp.mail.pine.admin (or whatever they are > called) are linked and archives are kept on an IMAP server. This is > already true of the pine-info archives, which can be accessed by > putting this setting in your pinerc folder-collections list: > > "pine-info archives" > {ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}#public/pine/pine-info/[], > > 4] All messages sent to comp.mail.pine are archived on an IMAP server > so we can use Pine to read and search the archives. Since the great > Mark Crispin is always talking about how cheap disk space is, this > seems like a reasonable thing for the UW to do... Cheers, Mike B-) -- The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York Yo10 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:27:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA07873 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:27:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA07532; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:27:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id GAA14977; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:27:15 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA18310 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:22:35 -0700 Received: from nyntq1.tink.com (SYSTEM@mail2.new-york.net [165.254.101.54]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA32610 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 06:22:35 -0700 Received: from aleph.ii.com ("port 1112"@aleph.ii.com) by mail2.new-york.net (PMDF V5.1-10 #22883) with ESMTP id <01JA7NMMWQNU8WWDOH@mail2.new-york.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:22:31 EDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: inconsistency re '^' in folder name MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ii@shell13.ba.best.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I changed my default Fcc to be '^sent' and it works fine when Pine automatically fills in the Fcc but if I fill in the Fcc by hand and put a ^ in the name, I get this message: [ Can't have a '^' in folder name ] So, there's an inconsistency here about what's an acceptable Fcc name. Thanks, Nancy -- For Pine info & links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ ŠNancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --= Sent via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:54:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA07958 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:54:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA09042; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:54:24 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA04311; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:54:14 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA126746 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:51:05 -0700 Received: from gort.office.aol.com (pix-fw.wan.aol.com [152.163.190.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA32618 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:51:05 -0700 Received: from DBPETE ([10.2.110.102]) by gort.office.aol.com with ESMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA12228 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:53:06 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:51:30 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dan Peterson To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Enabling Roles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: pete@gort.office.aol.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a configuration setting that needs to be set to enable Roles? I've set up a role with only a "To" pattern (the rest of the fields are set to ""), but it never seems to match anything. If I set "confirm-role-even-for-default", then I'm prompted for a role, but it's always the "Default-Role". How do I get the Roles to be automatically selected? -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dan Peterson Senior Software Engineer AOL Email: pete@aol.net Phone: 703-265-0226 FAX: 703-265-2405 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:51:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA13407 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:51:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA17968; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:51:18 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA03956; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:51:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id MAA50154 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:47:01 -0700 Received: from hotmail.com ([216.32.181.31]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id MAA16275 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:47:00 -0700 Received: (qmail 60859 invoked by uid 0); 19 Apr 1999 19:46:56 -0000 Received: from 216.99.198.102 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:46:55 PDT Message-Id: <19990419194656.60858.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:46:55 PDT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "STEVE CONRAD" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: News Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [216.99.198.102] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am trying to set up news on a new UNIX HP9000 running hpux 10.2 and use pine as my email and news reader, stand alone not connected to the internet. I got pine 3.95 to work for email but cant figure out where the printer setup menu is that is refered to in the readme files. Also, what is entailed to set up news both on pine and in unix, do I need a UUTP server on UNIX and where can I get the software? I really just want to run news as a kind of Bulletin Board for my users to post company wide messages to. Any help is much appreciated as I am new to Unix. Sincerely, Steve Conrad Systems Administrator McGuire Bearing Co. Portland OR. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:23:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA19677 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:23:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA03984; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:23:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA23586; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:23:22 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA20830 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:19:41 -0700 Received: from m1lw1.vsnl.net.in (lw1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.31.1] (may be forged)) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA28931 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 19:19:37 -0700 Received: from hotmail.com ([202.54.31.112]) by m1lw1.vsnl.net.in (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15420 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 08:00:54 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: <371B6782.CBB9AE75@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 22:57:31 +0530 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jamal Masood To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Unable to process From lines (envelopes) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a TCP/IP account with my ISP. My ISP uses pine as their e-mail software which can be accessed through shell account. I use Win 95 and dial up connection without any proxy server. I access my mail through Netscape Gold at my office and Netscape 4 at my home. About ten days back my POP3 account developed problem without any change of setting by me. I have been using this account for years but never encountered such problem. Whenever I tried to access my mail I got following error message; --------------------------------------- The POP3 server responded: Unable to process From lines (envelopes), change recognition modes. -. --------------------------------------- This happened irrespective of location from where I tried to access my mail. I loaded Eudora light in my system but to no avail and I still got similar error message. The problem was in retrieving incoming mail. There was no problem in sending out mail. If I pressed OK in the error message I got another error message saying that my password for POP3 account was wrong. I have checked with other users and none of them has this problem. My ISP has a new maintenance engineer and he was not able to detect the problem. He had opened my mail through Shell/Unix/Pine and he found that there was one mail in my inbox and it was marked as read only. He could not delete this mail. I also tried to access my mail through Shell/Unix/Pine and noticed that my In-box was read only. I am a novice to Unix/Pine and just did not what to do. While searching the net for an answer I came across your discussion forum and found that similar problem has been faced by others. I tried searching for the solution but failed. Two days back my ISP engineer was able to set right the problem but he is not revealing the reason. Can any one please tell me what could have caused this problem and how to solve this if a similar error appears in future. Thanks (Jamal Masood) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:47:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA21097 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:47:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA29436; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:47:22 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id UAA11586; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:47:02 -0700 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA13252 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:43:27 -0700 Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA27664 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:43:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id UAA40024 for ; Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:43:26 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 20:43:26 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Unable to process From lines (envelopes) In-Reply-To: <371B6782.CBB9AE75@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sounds like you need to bug your ISP. Threaten to move your business if they don't tell you why your e-mail wouldn't work. :) I'm curious to know the answer, too. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Jamal Masood wrote: > I have a TCP/IP account with my ISP. My ISP uses pine as their e-mail > software which can be accessed through shell account. I use Win 95 and > dial up connection without any proxy server. > > I access my mail through Netscape Gold at my office and Netscape 4 at my > home. About ten days back my POP3 account developed problem without any > change of setting by me. I have been using this account for years but > never encountered such problem. Whenever I tried to access my mail I got > following error message; > --------------------------------------- > The POP3 server responded: > Unable to process From lines (envelopes), > change recognition modes. > -. > --------------------------------------- > > This happened irrespective of location from where I tried to access my > mail. I loaded Eudora light in my system but to no avail and I still got > similar error message. > > The problem was in retrieving incoming mail. There was no problem in > sending out mail. > > If I pressed OK in the error message I got another error message saying > that my password for POP3 account was wrong. > > I have checked with other users and none of them has this problem. > > My ISP has a new maintenance engineer and he was not able to detect the > problem. He had opened my mail through Shell/Unix/Pine and he found that > there was one mail in my inbox and it was marked as read only. He could > not delete this mail. I also tried to access my mail through > Shell/Unix/Pine and noticed that my In-box was read only. > > I am a novice to Unix/Pine and just did not what to do. While searching > the net for an answer I came across your discussion forum and found that > similar problem has been faced by others. I tried searching for the > solution but failed. > > Two days back my ISP engineer was able to set right the problem but he > is not revealing the reason. > > Can any one please tell me what could have caused this problem and how > to solve this if a similar error appears in future. > > Thanks > > (Jamal Masood) > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:53:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA25012 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:53:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA14154; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:53:21 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id GAA22466; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:53:06 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA44618 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:48:27 -0700 Received: from smtp.db.erau.edu (IDENT:damorep@smtp.db.erau.edu [155.31.251.40]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id GAA12309 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 06:48:26 -0700 Received: from localhost (damorep@localhost) by smtp.db.erau.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA31479 for ; Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:46:47 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 09:46:47 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Phil D'Amore" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Unable to process From lines (envelopes) In-Reply-To: <371B6782.CBB9AE75@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The only time I've seen this problem is with qpopper on the mail server. I used to use that on our mail server, and saw this message every once in a while. Basically what it is trying to do is find the first message in your mail spool file. Mail messages typically start with a line like: >From damorep@db.erau.edu Fri Oct 16 13:00:51 1998 (The '>' you see does not belong there in the mail spool. Something, pine or sendmail, puts it there to prevent a false detection of a new message boundary). Usually, each message is separated by a single blank line, and one of the above lines. When qpopper starts up, it takes what's in your mail spool and copies it to a temporary location. It then works with this file for your session. Whatever is left gets put back in your mail spool file, before any new stuff that came in. Also, if the session dies for some reason, there is a possibility that that file will be left there. The next time you start a session, that stuff gets read first, then any new stuff in the real mail spool. There are two cases you will get this message. 1) The mail spool does not begin with one of those From lines, and 2) The temp file exists, and it does not end w/ a single blank line. Even though they are two separate files, qpopper does not reset any internal flags (including the flag that says if the previous line was a new line) when it switches files. It does, however, expect that the start of the mail spool file will be a new message. So, at the start of the file, if the newline flag was not set from the temp file, the logic that parses the first line in the file (There is a special case for this, at least as of 2.53) pukes, since newline == 0 and IS_FROMLINE returns 1, which is not a valid message separator. The fix is to either fudge the header of the top message in the mail spool if that was corrupt by putting in a From line, or go to the temp mail file and add a newline at the end. In my experience, the latter is the most common. Like I said, other programs will probably parse the mail in quite the same way (It's how I do it when I need to parse mail files). The error message you report is what qpopper spits out verbatim, however. As for the read-only message, I am at a loss. Perhaps the same kind of header corruption causes this behavior in pine? Sorry for the long explanation. Hope it helps some. -- Phil D'Amore UNIX Admin./E-Mail Postmaster It's never as bad as Information Technology you think it is... Embry-Riddle University Phone: (904)226-7185 It's always much worse. On Mon, 19 Apr 1999, Jamal Masood wrote: > I have a TCP/IP account with my ISP. My ISP uses pine as their e-mail > software which can be accessed through shell account. I use Win 95 and > dial up connection without any proxy server. > > I access my mail through Netscape Gold at my office and Netscape 4 at my > home. About ten days back my POP3 account developed problem without any > change of setting by me. I have been using this account for years but > never encountered such problem. Whenever I tried to access my mail I got > following error message; > --------------------------------------- > The POP3 server responded: > Unable to process From lines (envelopes), > change recognition modes. > -. > --------------------------------------- > > This happened irrespective of location from where I tried to access my > mail. I loaded Eudora light in my system but to no avail and I still got > similar error message. > > The problem was in retrieving incoming mail. There was no problem in > sending out mail. > > If I pressed OK in the error message I got another error message saying > that my password for POP3 account was wrong. > > I have checked with other users and none of them has this problem. > > My ISP has a new maintenance engineer and he was not able to detect the > problem. He had opened my mail through Shell/Unix/Pine and he found that > there was one mail in my inbox and it was marked as read only. He could > not delete this mail. I also tried to access my mail through > Shell/Unix/Pine and noticed that my In-box was read only. > > I am a novice to Unix/Pine and just did not what to do. While searching > the net for an answer I came across your discussion forum and found that > similar problem has been faced by others. I tried searching for the > solution but failed. > > Two days back my ISP engineer was able to set right the problem but he > is not revealing the reason. > > Can any one please tell me what could have caused this problem and how > to solve this if a similar error appears in future. > > Thanks > > (Jamal Masood) > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:42:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA09169 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA13172; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:41:59 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA02898; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:40:52 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA45804 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:36:07 -0700 Received: from eagle.cc.ukans.edu (root@eagle.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.34.3]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA18698 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 14:36:06 -0700 Received: from falcon.cc.ukans.edu by eagle.cc.ukans.edu (8.8.7/1.1.8.2/12Jan95-0207PM) id QAA0000014380; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:36:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:36:05 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Carine Ullom To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: missing replies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: cullom@falcon.cc.ukans.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Perhaps this has been discussed here before but I've been on this list for 6+ months and don't recall seeing it. We're running Pine 3.95q on Unix. Under certain conditions, when a person *replies* to a message, the person receiving the reply sees only any portion of the original message that was sent back but not the reply-ers message. Thus, it *looks* as though the reply-er merely returned the original message without responding (a real problem when professors are writing student and the student swears they wrote back ;( ). The problem appears to be when the original message was sent as HTML such that the email client generates a text and an HTML version of the message. Pine displays the text version, the Pine user replies to the text version and sends everything back. The other client opens the HTML portion only and thus doesn't display the response, leaving the originator of the exchange bewildered. Do I understand this correctly? Is there more to it? Can anything be done other than asking the originator to be sure to send only as text? We'll soon be upgrading to 4.10, which I am aware (have tested) fixes the problem. TIA, Carine Ullom Software Training Specialist Academic Computing Services University of Kansas Computer Center Lawrence, KS 66045 PH: 785-864-0467 FX: 785-864-0485 e-mail: carine@ukans.edu -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:38:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA03285 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:38:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA17141; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:38:15 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA28379; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:37:10 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Carine Ullom X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: missing replies Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:20:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Fri, 23 Apr 99 16:37 PDT Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id XAA20427; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 23:37:55 GMT for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:33:51 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 16:33:53 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 23 Apr 1999, Carine Ullom wrote: > Do I understand this correctly? Is there more to it? Can anything be > done other than asking the originator to be sure to send only as text? This is a good solution, that is requesting that messages be sent as text only. I believe that I have only seen 1 message where HTML was justified, and that was a seperate HTML attachment, not an HTML version of the text message. And this is with probably something over 100 messages with HTML used. In the future it may make sence, but now I'm still not seeing any advantage to the majority of the use... One solution may be to look at the attachments, you may be able to delete the HTML attachment while sending. But, that is not much better than the request to not send HTML in the first place, as it just moves the problem around. But, doing both (if it's possible to delete the attachment), would be fairly effective in the end... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. 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WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:40:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA11600 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA17052; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:40:05 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id RAA11972; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:39:01 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA123664 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:37:06 -0700 Received: from ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id RAA08589 for ; Fri, 23 Apr 1999 17:37:04 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:36:58 +0800 Message-Id: <000501be8dea$81abdba0$1511b381@twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 1999 08:36:35 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ed Greshko" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: missing replies In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Carine Ullom" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Carine, > Do I understand this correctly? Is there more to it? Can anything be > done other than asking the originator to be sure to send only as text? > We'll soon be upgrading to 4.10, which I am aware (have tested) fixes the > problem. I believe you've "asked/answered" your question. pine3.95 had a bug which causes the obseved failure. pine4.10 fixes the bug. Your choices are: 1. Live with the bug but ask originator's to assist you in avoiding the bug. 2. Upgrade "now" to pine4.10 and banish the bug. #1 is a hit or miss solution. #2 is a sure bet. I personally don't see #1 as an option. Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:13:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA02447 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:13:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA13435; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:13:53 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA08199; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:13:40 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA48628 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:10:22 -0700 Received: from server1.oio.net (root@server1.oio.net [207.101.88.104]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA10910 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 07:10:22 -0700 Received: from judi-barrett (idap1dial18.oio.net [207.101.76.38]) by server1.oio.net (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA17643 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:00:04 -0500 Message-Id: <000101be8f25$4f73bea0$264c65cf@judi-barrett> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:10:02 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Don & Judi Barrett, Barrett Farms" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: error messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have just recently installed Pine on my computer and have been trying to configure it to operate. I finally got everything in so that I could send a messge and immediately got an error message that closes my program. Now everytime that I open Pine, I get this message and the only thing that works is to close the program. What have I done wrong? How can I fix what I did wrong if I can't open the program to fix it? Any help is greatly appreciated. I wanted to be able to use Pine because of the BCC address fields. The error message that I get is: PINE caused an invalid page fault in module KERNEL32.DLL at 0157:bff99dba. Registers: EAX=c0024a70 CS=0157 EIP=bff99dba EFLGS=00010202 EBX=00000000 SS=015f ESP=0081fd80 EBP=0082001c ECX=00000000 DS=015f ESI=01460f80 FS=51af EDX=0068ab90 ES=015f EDI=00627760 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: 89 4d e0 53 8b 15 8c 19 fc bf 56 89 4d e4 57 89 Stack dump: Can anyone help? Judi Barrett -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:04:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA05967 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:04:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA14807; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:04:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id JAA11393; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:04:43 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA17520 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:01:47 -0700 Received: from server1.oio.net (root@server1.oio.net [207.101.88.104]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id JAA25631 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 09:01:47 -0700 Received: from judi-barrett (idap2dial27.oio.net [207.101.76.79]) by server1.oio.net (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA21349 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 10:51:29 -0500 Message-Id: <000901be8f34$e01cae80$4f4c65cf@judi-barrett> Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 11:01:27 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Don & Judi Barrett, Barrett Farms" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: error messages MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Marco's reply to my question took care of it. Thanks so much. Judi Barrett From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:36:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA10161 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA23309; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:36:47 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA05460; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:36:36 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA28844 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:31:59 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA20479 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:31:58 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA14109 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 01:36:11 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Sun, 25 Apr 99 18:36 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA28453 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:23:23 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: QP debuging problem? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="279708160-946843020-925089642=:28389" Content-ID: X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --279708160-946843020-925089642=:28389 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Both of these messages don't come through completely. There is an error about: [Error: Formatting error: Non-hexadecimal character in QP encoding] just after where it breaks. This happens in both Pine3.96, and 4.05. Anyone have any ideas? (it breaks imidiately after an at in both cases, one the first occurance, another there are several occurances before). Anyways, any help would be appreciated... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. 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-0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA25829; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 19:02:24 -0700 Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA17642 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:58:26 -0700 Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA36530 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:58:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA51896 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:58:24 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 18:58:24 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: QP debuging problem? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can you try bouncing those messages to me or to the list to see if I get the same error at the same place? I have another message that gave me the same error, but Pine wouldn't even display part of that one. I noticed that the same message gave the same error whenever I tried to do anything with it that required it to be displayed, even after I bounced it to my other account. Only bounce worked, because it doesn't require the message to be displayed. I'm going to inquire of the Pine team if they have any idea what's going on. If I included your messages as well (sent to me so they become my messages), that might make it easier for them to figure out. If you want, I can also send you a copy of my message. The only similarity I could find was that they were both created by a mail client that uses HTML. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu How to contact me: http://students.washington.edu/leibrand/howtocontactme.html * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > Both of these messages don't come through completely. There is an > error about: > > [Error: Formatting error: Non-hexadecimal character in QP encoding] > > just after where it breaks. This happens in both Pine3.96, and > 4.05. Anyone have any ideas? (it breaks imidiately after an at in both > cases, one the first occurance, another there are several occurances > before). Anyways, any help would be appreciated... > > Jessica > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA11986 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:16:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA25737; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:16:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA11162; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:15:49 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA122272 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:11:37 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA30524; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:11:34 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA15843; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 05:15:46 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Sun, 25 Apr 99 22:15 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA30172; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:10:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:10:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: QP debuging problem? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > Can you try bouncing those messages to me or to the list to see if I get > the same error at the same place? If you save the attachment into one of your folder colections, then that will make it an entirely ``normal'' message folder... > I have another message that gave me the same error, but Pine wouldn't > even display part of that one. I noticed that the same message gave > the same error whenever I tried to do anything with it that required > it to be displayed, even after I bounced it to my other account. > Only bounce worked, because it doesn't require the message to be > displayed. At least, it's good to know that it's not just my site that sees this. I have only seen it the once... > I'm going to inquire of the Pine team if they have any idea what's going > on. If I included your messages as well (sent to me so they become my > messages), that might make it easier for them to figure out. I'll bounce them to me... > If you want, I can also send you a copy of my message. The only similarity > I could find was that they were both created by a mail client that uses > HTML. Sure, maybe I can see if there may be something that makes sence. I did strip the headers down to the minimum on my message, but it had no effect as to what it would display... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA01176 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA26777; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:56:22 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id WAA13150; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:56:01 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA10810 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:51:39 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id WAA05549 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:51:39 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id FAA16168 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 05:55:47 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Sun, 25 Apr 99 22:55 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA30498 for ; Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:49:37 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 22:49:36 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: QP debuging problem? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > > > Can you try bouncing those messages to me or to the list to see if I get > > the same error at the same place? > > If you save the attachment into one of your folder colections, > then that will make it an entirely ``normal'' message folder... When I bounced the message back to myself through my geocities address, (bounces back to this address), it came through reasonably well, exect that ``=h'' became ``^?''. (quotes mine). But, it looks like Sendmail autoconverted the QP message, which I don't know why it did that... Or, more accurately, why it did it this time, but not last time... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA19218 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:11:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA00784; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:11:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id HAA20384; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:11:18 -0700 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA47842 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:08:04 -0700 Received: from vergil01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@vergil01.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.6]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA12072 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:08:03 -0700 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by vergil01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id HAA29168 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:08:03 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:08:02 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: QP debuging problem? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > > On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > > > > > Can you try bouncing those messages to me or to the list to see if I get > > > the same error at the same place? > > > > If you save the attachment into one of your folder colections, > > then that will make it an entirely ``normal'' message folder... > > When I bounced the message back to myself through my geocities > address, (bounces back to this address), it came through reasonably well, > exect that ``=h'' became ``^?''. (quotes mine). But, it looks like > Sendmail autoconverted the QP message, which I don't know why it did > that... Or, more accurately, why it did it this time, but not last > time... > > Jessica > All I know is that both the messages you forwarded (bounced) do me gave me the QP encoding error as well. So I'll see if anyone here at the UW can figure it out... -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu How to contact me: http://students.washington.edu/leibrand/howtocontactme.html * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA17920 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:56:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA08877; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:56:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA24735; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:56:29 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id LAA122328 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:52:30 -0700 Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f180.hotmail.com [216.32.181.180]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id LAA10459 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:52:29 -0700 Received: (qmail 41789 invoked by uid 0); 26 Apr 1999 18:52:25 -0000 Received: from 216.99.208.182 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:52:25 PDT Message-Id: <19990426185225.41788.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:52:25 PDT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "STEVE CONRAD" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine printer setup menu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain X-Originating-IP: [216.99.208.182] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I thank those of you who responded to my last email about configuring a news server. I dont have it running yet but atleast I am pointed in the right direction. Todays question deals with pine and printing. I read in the readme files that there is a printer setup menu somewhere. I cant seem to find it, vers. 3.95. How can I get pine to print to specific printers when running un UNIX HP10.2 using dumb terminals. Any assistance is muchly appreciated. Steve Conrad Systems Administrator McGuire Bearing Co. Portland, Or. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA29579 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:37:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA15188; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:37:51 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id QAA11044; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:37:38 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA23520 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:34:37 -0700 Received: from watsol.cc.columbia.edu (IDENT:cu789@watsol.cc.columbia.edu [128.59.39.139]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id QAA26499 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 16:34:36 -0700 Received: from localhost (bino@localhost) by watsol.cc.columbia.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA17383 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:34:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:34:34 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bino Gopal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Saving to different FC's in Pine... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: bino@columbia.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ok, I'm going to try again, making it clearer this time: Why is it that when you're saving a message, and you use ^T to go to folders, and you select a different folder collection (FC) than the one you're currently in, this fact is not updated in the save message prompt? The only way to change the FC is "manually"--doing it by hand! Is this a bug, or is there a reason for this behavior? It is not present in Pine 3.95 AFAIK. It makes ABSOLUTELY _NO_ sense either--I can't fathom why this is so... This is the only thing bugging me in what is otherwise a great improvement on previous versions. I'm hoping someone on the Pine team might find a minute to respond this time...this has really been bothering me. Big TIA. :) BINO P.S. I know this is supposed to be the admin list, but as someone else pointed out "pine-info" is a pretty bad name for an admin list, and as other people are getting help with their questions, I'm throwing mine out there again, hoping to understand why this is so. So, sorry for the "off-topic" post, and thanks to all who reply. :) --------------------------------------------------------------------- Bino Gopal 604 Watson Hall Network Analyst 612 W. 115th St Academic Information Systems New York, NY 10025 Columbia University bino@columbia.edu --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:39:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA32333 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA20384; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:39:26 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA17406; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:39:04 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA47878 for ; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:35:16 -0700 Received: from kootcom.kootenay.net (kootcom.kootenay.net [209.52.230.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA05126; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:35:15 -0700 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by kootcom.kootenay.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) id CAA07649; Tue, 27 Apr 1999 02:39:28 GMT Received: from ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca by kootcom.kootenay.net; Mon, 26 Apr 99 19:39 PDT Received: from localhost (jrasku@localhost) by ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA04497; Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:32:35 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 19:32:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jessica Rasku To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: QP debuging problem? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 26 Apr 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > > On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Jessica Rasku wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 25 Apr 1999, Scott Leibrand wrote: > > > > > > > Can you try bouncing those messages to me or to the list to see if I get > > > > the same error at the same place? > > > > > > If you save the attachment into one of your folder colections, > > > then that will make it an entirely ``normal'' message folder... > > > > When I bounced the message back to myself through my geocities > > address, (bounces back to this address), it came through reasonably well, > > exect that ``=h'' became ``^?''. (quotes mine). But, it looks like Correction, it was ``="h'' that was converted to ``^?'' > > Sendmail autoconverted the QP message, which I don't know why it did > > that... Or, more accurately, why it did it this time, but not last > > time... > > All I know is that both the messages you forwarded (bounced) do me gave me > the QP encoding error as well. So I'll see if anyone here at the UW can > figure it out... The problem clearly is that in these messages there was a html tag added by Listserv which looked like , changing it to , caused the error to dissapear, and the message to be presented correctly. The sugestion I have, is that it either give a detailed error report, or present the message unrendered (preferably at the choice of the user), as the error that is causing this is something like 10 lines from where it presents the error. This is a fairly rare problem, and would probably require a fair amount of work on the QP module to clean up to provide the options I am sugesting, but looking at it, it could possibly be done... Jessica -- Jessica Rasku, Box 270, Rossland, B.C., V0G 1Y0, (250) 362-5701, LinuxBox: (250) 362-9668. List manager: majordomo@ArmispianSystems.Rossland.bc.ca send command help ---- To get help with majordomo or lists ---- To get a list of all lists on server. WWW: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:34:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA22721 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:34:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA18260; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:34:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id CAA16539; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:34:03 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA33388 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:29:57 -0700 Received: from mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (nz40.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.197.4]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id CAA08760 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 02:29:56 -0700 Received: from tp71.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (ry98@tp71.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.98.216]) by mailgate.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10cn8i-00022z-00; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:29:52 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 11:29:51 +0200 (CES) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Vacek To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pgp and MIME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hey I have a problem using pgp in pine. I have tried the skripts for sending/display-filters and everthing is fine. But there is a problem with mails generated by elm, wihch look like the following: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: application/pgp; format=text; x-action=sign Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- [...] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv [signature] -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- In our /etc/mailcap we have: application/pgp; pgp -f < %s; \ description="A PGP signed/crypted file" So it works fine with elm. But pine does not. What pine says is [ Part 1, Application/PGP 602bytes. ] [ Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part. ] If I press "V" I get the message: [Message X has only one part (the message body), and no attachments.] And when the viewer is launched nothing happens. What I want is either that pine should ignore the application/pgp entry and use the display-filter or to use /etc/mailcap in the right way. I have checked the mail with metamail and it worked. I think the problem is, that pine can't handle the output, so that it seems that nothing is happening. Is this possible? Thanks in advance. Stefan Stefan Vacek **** ry98@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:33:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA04108 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:33:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA08523; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:33:43 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id OAA03848; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:33:31 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA124344 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:29:47 -0700 Received: from imap0.glue.umd.edu (imap0.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.158]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id OAA31161 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 14:29:46 -0700 Received: from yumi.distortion.ddns.org (enslaved.student.umd.edu [129.2.178.211]) by imap0.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.0.Beta6) with ESMTP id RAA02067 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:29:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 17:30:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: wes To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: sending-filter question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine info X-Sender: wgriffin@yumi.distortion.ddns.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i've got a sending-filter set up for pine 4.10 and pgp 5.0 and i'm trying to use _TMPFILE_ twice in the command line. pine, however, seems to process the tokens only once, so only the first instance of _TMPFILE_ is being replaced. is it supposed to be this way, and is there a patch to make pine process multiple instances in the command line? thanks. .wes 0x90A1345C : 9AD4 20AE 22CD 7D88 AABE 29A2 4744 78B5 90A1 345C http://certserver.pgp.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x90A1345C -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:34:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA09328 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:34:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA15672; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:34:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id SAA20256; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:34:43 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA30692 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:30:55 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA32045 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:30:54 -0700 Received: from red3.cac.washington.edu (3950@red3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.55.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA08010 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:30:54 -0700 Received: from localhost (sleib@localhost) by red3.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id SAA12851 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:30:53 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:30:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: leibrand@u.washington.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to replace From: in setup of pine? (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: sleib@red3.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This should answer any questions about Changing the From Header in Pine... --=20 Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:19:05 GMT From: Nancy this-address-is-valid McGough Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: How to replace From: in setup of pine? On 26 Apr 1999, Neall E. Doren wrote: > On Sun, 25 Apr 1999 at 10:18pm, Adam Vardy wrote: >=20 > > How about in 3.95? I've got info about how to do this in 3.95 (and other versions) at: http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/ Here's the outline of my page: * What is a From Header * Do Not Use a Forged or Bogus From Header * Good Reasons for Changing Your From Header * Getting an Email Address to Use in Public Forums and on Web Pages * Specifying Your Default From Header * Using the personal-name and user-domain Variables * Using the allow-changing-from Feature * Changing Your From Header On the Fly * Using Composer Headers * Using Roles * Changing Your From Header in Pine 3.96 and Earlier Versions * Unix Pine 3.96 (and Earlier) * PC-Pine 3.96 (and Earlier) * See Also > > : The sysadmin can always override this, by putting > > : "no-allow-changing-from" in the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed file, > > : though. N. > >=20 > > If they do that, does that mean the from always stays, you can never ma= il=20 > > with a different from? >=20 > Correct. The sysadmin has ultimate control in this respect. I'm not sur= e > how many bother to disable this feature, though. Of course, you could > always modify the "C" source and bypass his/her override (or completely > ignore reading /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed), but... well, you didn't > hear me suggest that :). =20 If you are using Pine 4.10, you can use a role to change your From=20 header even if the sys admin has put no-allow-changing-from in pine.conf.fixed. --=20 For Pine info and links, see www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/ =20 =A9Nancy McGough http://www.ii.com Infinite Ink --=3D Posted via PINE: Power Internet News & Email for Win/Unix =3D-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(10) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA28933 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:54:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA16944; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:54:17 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with SMTP id TAA01732; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:54:13 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA34748 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:51:38 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA26829 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:51:38 -0700 Received: from red8.cac.washington.edu (3950@red8.cac.washington.edu [140.142.55.35]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA16912 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:51:38 -0700 Received: from localhost (sleib@localhost) by red8.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id TAA09745 for ; Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:51:37 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 19:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: leibrand@u.washington.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: sleib@red8.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Here's the response for the Pine guys. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 29 Apr 1999 18:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: 143686Q: Pine Collection Lists (fwd) This will be fixed in the next release of pine. No patch. Steve > Why doesn't Pine change the Folder Collection when you use ^T to select > another folder collection? It changes the folder name, but leaves the > collection as it was before you ^T'd. This is really annoying, because it > requires a manual ^N or ^P folder collection change, or it will ask you if > you want to create a new folder. > > Is this bug going to be fixed in the next Pine release? Is there a patch? > > Thanks,